Are debates inadequate to change minds? (Bernie/Cruz Debate)

It has always been a mystery to me to understand why a youngster is better off unemployed at $1.60 an hour than employed at $1.25. - M. Friedman

I disagree, for the same reasons given in the case of healthcare.

You could agree that any specific individual is better off employed and making less than x than unemployed, and still think that it’s better that a million people make x and a thousand people be unemployed than that a million plus a thousand people all be employed for less than x.

I am watching it now, Cruz does a good job of pointing out the flaws of the aca and flaws of uhc systems. But Cruz has no answers. All he does it point out the shortcomings of the current system without an alternative that lowers costs, expands coverage, increases quality, etc.

It didn’t change my mind. If people like Cruz had a working plan to cover everyone for 10% of gdp, I’m all for it. But they have no answer, they just hate the state.

Cruz’s argument is at core “the aca and systems in Europe are not perfect, so let’s not do that”, but what is his alternative? He just offers empty talking points about getting government out of health care.

Cruz did call for buying insurance across state lines, but he said this is prohibited under the aca. That isn’t true, the aca allows this. But it doesn’t work, which is why nobody does it even though several states have tried. An insurer from another state doesn’t have the leverage to negotiate prices in another state. Multiple states have tried this, no out of state insurers wanted to take them up in it.

Cruz pointed out the flaws of various systems without offering valid alternatives. Sanders should have put him on the defensive. What are his answers other than talking points and criticisms?

Ever since the aca, the dems seem to own health care. Health care under Europe is probably a B+. Under the ACA maybe a C, but under Republican ideas probably a D. All the gop has to do is complain that a B+ or C is not an A+ without having to address that their plan is a D.

The gop needs to be on the defensive for Healthcare rather than just complaining that no system is perfect.

Almost all of these positions taken by Milton are much less defensible if you don’t also adopt his basic income model where everyone gets enough money so that noone is coerced into taking slave wages.

I mean its not like we don’t have centuries of of market data without a minimum wage to see what would happen.