# Are Democrats Risking Another 2004 because of the "Radical Islamic terrorism" issue? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [December 6, 2015, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-democrats-risking-another-2004-because-of-the-radical-islamic-terrorism-issue/739614 "2015-12-06T14:47:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2015, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-democrats-risking-another-2004-because-of-the-radical-islamic-terrorism-issue/739614/121 "2015-12-11T17:30:35Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Oh, and since this thread is actually about the coming election and not necessarily about the war itself, I’d note that Democrats are going to have a hard time being taken seriously on national security if they won’t even acknowledge that we’re at war. and pretend that we have all the options that we had before we started this war. The Democrats are strongest when they are the reality-based party. When talking about ISIS, they sound like Republicans talking about global warming. You could start a thread about that if you wanted, but this one was actually about the use of the phrase ‘Radical Islamic Terrorism’ and whether Democrats are risking defeat for not using the phrase. That’s completely orthogonal to whether or not ‘Democrats admit we’re at war.’ That said, I don’t think the latter will hurt them, because I think most Americans are better than you at distinguishing full-fledged war mobilization from bombing campaigns. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2015, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-democrats-risking-another-2004-because-of-the-radical-islamic-terrorism-issue/739614/122 "2015-12-11T17:48:28Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > They’ll get American soldiers. How many died in Vietnam before we officially committed ground troops? Special forces, advisors, and pilots are at risk, and if they get into serious trouble that’s when things can really escalate. They’d get orders of magnitude more if we committed ground troops. There’s no reason this should be inevitable – the only way it would reasonably be inevitable is if ISIS successfully made a nuclear attack. ---
**Author:** ![DerekMichaels00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2015, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-democrats-risking-another-2004-because-of-the-radical-islamic-terrorism-issue/739614/123 "2015-12-11T19:07:15Z")
here’s some good material from [Piers Morgan](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3354481/PIERS-MORGAN-Donald-Trump-s-Muslim-travel-ban-dumb-laid-Obama-dumber-says-Piers-Morgan.html), not exactly known for conservatism: > [@](#): > > Saying all Muslims are potential terrorists is stupid and dangerous. > But pretending none of them are is even more stupid and dangerous. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2015, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-democrats-risking-another-2004-because-of-the-radical-islamic-terrorism-issue/739614/124 "2015-12-11T19:31:25Z")
Yes, true enough, but the fantasy of war against Islam is more horrific because the fantasy can fulfill itself. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2015, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-democrats-risking-another-2004-because-of-the-radical-islamic-terrorism-issue/739614/125 "2015-12-11T19:37:55Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > here’s some good material from [Piers Morgan](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3354481/PIERS-MORGAN-Donald-Trump-s-Muslim-travel-ban-dumb-laid-Obama-dumber-says-Piers-Morgan.html), not exactly known for conservatism: I agree; what’s more, I don’t think there is a liberal or Democrat that would disagree. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-democrats-risking-another-2004-because-of-the-radical-islamic-terrorism-issue/739614.md?page=6)