# Are DVDs of Silence of the Lambs, Empire Strikes Back & others missing some scenes? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 28, 2004, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-dvds-of-silence-of-the-lambs-empire-strikes-back-others-missing-some-scenes/266451 "2004-09-28T08:08:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![FilmGeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@FilmGeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FilmGeek)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-dvds-of-silence-of-the-lambs-empire-strikes-back-others-missing-some-scenes/266451/21 "2004-09-28T20:29:49Z")
Didn’t Lucas say that he’d like to find all the bootleg copies of the christmas special and smash them with a hammer? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-dvds-of-silence-of-the-lambs-empire-strikes-back-others-missing-some-scenes/266451/22 "2004-09-28T20:33:29Z")
> [@FilmGeek](#): > > Didn’t Lucas say that he’d like to find all the bootleg copies of the christmas special and smash them with a hammer? For once, he and his fans are in agreement about the direction of the franchise. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-dvds-of-silence-of-the-lambs-empire-strikes-back-others-missing-some-scenes/266451/23 "2004-09-28T20:36:37Z")
Wait a second. The Star Wars \*\*\*Holiday Special \* \*\* features a scene of a family of Wookies being killed by Storm Troopers? ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-dvds-of-silence-of-the-lambs-empire-strikes-back-others-missing-some-scenes/266451/24 "2004-09-28T20:44:29Z")
> [@Zebra](#): > > Wait a second. > > The Star Wars \*\*\*Holiday Special \* \*\* features a scene of a family of Wookies being killed by Storm Troopers? That’s what I was thinking! ---
**Author:** ![chukhung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@chukhung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chukhung)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-dvds-of-silence-of-the-lambs-empire-strikes-back-others-missing-some-scenes/266451/25 "2004-09-28T20:48:10Z")
If you were lucky enough to see [The Shining](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081505/) on the weekend it was released, there was a final hospital scene in which the hotel manager, Stuart Ullman, tells Wendy and Danny that Jack’s body couldn’t be found. I don’t believe that scene has ever resurfaced. It’s certainly not on my DVD, (unless there’s some hidden Easter Egg I haven’t found). ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-dvds-of-silence-of-the-lambs-empire-strikes-back-others-missing-some-scenes/266451/26 "2004-09-28T20:48:38Z")
When I saw\* Babe: Pig in the City \*in the theater, the customs officer snaps a rubber glove onto her hand just before she goes to search Mrs. Farmer-lady. No such glove-snap the last time I saw it, which was either VHS or DVD; I forget. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-dvds-of-silence-of-the-lambs-empire-strikes-back-others-missing-some-scenes/266451/27 "2004-09-28T21:17:10Z")
> [@Zebra](#): > > Wait a second. > > The Star Wars \*\*\*Holiday Special \* \*\* features a scene of a family of Wookies being killed by Storm Troopers? Not killed, just harassed. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-dvds-of-silence-of-the-lambs-empire-strikes-back-others-missing-some-scenes/266451/28 "2004-09-29T01:12:38Z")
Their methods of collecting for ‘Troopers for Tots’ campaign can be pretty annoying. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-dvds-of-silence-of-the-lambs-empire-strikes-back-others-missing-some-scenes/266451/29 "2004-09-29T04:11:56Z")
> [@](#): > > she said she remembered one of Chewbacca’s children had a stuffed toy that a Stormtrooper destroyed. Nah, she’s thinking of the poor thing in _Reform School Girls_ whose stuffed bunny was torched by the sadistic juvie matron. ---
**Author:** ![Rainbowthief](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4bbf92/32.png) [@Rainbowthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rainbowthief)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-dvds-of-silence-of-the-lambs-empire-strikes-back-others-missing-some-scenes/266451/30 "2004-09-29T06:39:04Z")
> [@chukhung](#): > > If you were lucky enough to see [The Shining](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081505/) on the weekend it was released, there was a final hospital scene in which the hotel manager, Stuart Ullman, tells Wendy and Danny that Jack’s body couldn’t be found. > > I don’t believe that scene has ever resurfaced. It’s certainly not on my DVD, (unless there’s some hidden Easter Egg I haven’t found). I had never heard of that. Too bad it was removed, it would’ve been an eery ending. I know **A Clockwork Orange** and Ken Rusell’s **The Devils** also had scenes cut during their theatrical release, but those were to get the ratings changed from X (this was years before NC-17) to R. I wonder if maybe this wasn’t the case with “Silence”? I saw in on opening night, so maybe the scene was cut later during the theatrical run. It’s weird because I remember it so clearly. I’ll check some fansites, maybe someone else remembers it. And FWIW, I have zero intention of downloading the Star Wars Christmas special. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-dvds-of-silence-of-the-lambs-empire-strikes-back-others-missing-some-scenes/266451/31 "2004-09-29T15:03:13Z")
I have a question about Baz Luhrmann’s take on _Romeo & Juliet_. My first viewing was in a theatre, just after it opened. When Romeo came to Juliet’s tomb, he was challenged by “Dave” Paris (Prince Paris) & killed him. This happened in the play–although many details vary, of course! When I caught it again on TV, Paris did not appear after the big party scene. I bought the DVD–still no Paris. (Yes, I liked the movie–if I want “pure” Shakespeare, I’ve got the book.) So: Was the death of Paris cut because of a bad reaction by the teenie DiCaprio fans? After all, Paul Rudd is a cutie in his own right. Or did I hallucinate that scene? (Actually, much of the movie could be a hallucination–but it stays the same every time I play the DVD.) ---
**Author:** ![ussentinel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ce7236/32.png) [@ussentinel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ussentinel)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-dvds-of-silence-of-the-lambs-empire-strikes-back-others-missing-some-scenes/266451/32 "2004-09-29T16:31:33Z")
Perhaps I’m straying off-topic a bit (sorry), but I distinctly remember a scene in the Burt Reynolds movie “Hooper” where Jan Michael-Vincent’s character (Ski) is talking to the Sally Field character in the kitchen. Ski talks about how his relationship with a woman and kinda feels her (Field) out on how relationships work in the stuntmen profession. Minor scene, yes. But, it does give some good background to the Jan Michael-Vincent character. I never saw the movie in the theater, but I did see this scene on tv years ago and it’s not on the DVD. I think I vaguely recall seeing different scenes in “Fast Times at Ridgemont High” (some for obvious reasons) when it appears on a movie channel vs. when it runs say on TBS. Some of the nudity/language scenes are gone and replaced with different scenes. At the risk of a slight thread hijack and to quote Mr. Hand, "Am I hullucinating here? … " Can someone else corroborate that there are different scenes from “Fast Times” in the “clean” tv broadcast version? ---
**Author:** ![todd33rpm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a5b964/32.png) [@todd33rpm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/todd33rpm)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-dvds-of-silence-of-the-lambs-empire-strikes-back-others-missing-some-scenes/266451/33 "2004-09-29T17:18:00Z")
Hey, I’ll have _everyone_ know that this was a great, GREAT special to watch when I was eight. Why, Mom even left the living room after a few minutes so I could watch it and really focus on it. And Jefferson Starship! Best part. It was so good that I went out and bought _Jefferson Starship Gold_ just so I could have the bonus single of “Light The Sky On Fire!” Hmm. Funny. Come to think of it, I didn’t enjoy the song a whole lot after maybe six plays because Marty Balin’s warbling pitch in his falsettos was grating on my nerves… And, come to think of it, I think I remember Mom snickering in the kitchen while I was watching the show. _takes glasses off_ _Wow! WHAT A BREAKTHROUGH!_ _hitching, convulsive sobbing_ ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-dvds-of-silence-of-the-lambs-empire-strikes-back-others-missing-some-scenes/266451/34 "2004-09-29T17:42:32Z")
I don’t know about _Fast Times_, but I can confirm that any basic-cable broadcast of _The Breakfast Club_ or _Sixteen Candles_ has extra scenes in it. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-dvds-of-silence-of-the-lambs-empire-strikes-back-others-missing-some-scenes/266451/35 "2004-09-29T17:55:51Z")
> [@ussentinel](#): > > I think I vaguely recall seeing different scenes in “Fast Times at Ridgemont High” (some for obvious reasons) when it appears on a movie channel vs. when it runs say on TBS. Some of the nudity/language scenes are gone and replaced with different scenes. At the risk of a slight thread hijack and to quote Mr. Hand, "Am I hullucinating here? … " Can someone else corroborate that there are different scenes from “Fast Times” in the “clean” tv broadcast version? There are indeed different scenes in the TV version of **Fast Times at Ridgemont High**. I guess this was to make up for several scenes that had to be cut due to sex/nudity or because of copyright problems with songs on the soundtrack. Oddly, I believe the abortion scene is actually _longer_ in the TV version; you’d think that would be something the censors wouldn’t like. ---
**Author:** ![RumMunkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b19c9b/32.png) [@RumMunkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RumMunkey)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-dvds-of-silence-of-the-lambs-empire-strikes-back-others-missing-some-scenes/266451/36 "2004-09-29T18:26:47Z")
There’s a missing scene in _Jurassic Park_, too. In the theatrical verison, just before they drive up and see the dinosaurs for the first time, Ellie (is that her name? The Botonist I mean) reaches out the side of the moving Jeep and plucks a leaf off a plant. For some odd reason, this 2 second insert is missing from the home video release (at least it was, it may have been fixed by now). The very next scene where she is studying the leaf and mumbles “This plant is extinct” is OK, you just miss her reach out and pluck the leaf from the plant. I remember this scene so well because at the time I was working in a theatre and my “aisle check” was done at the same time each night and it coincided to this part of the early showing. So basically I watched this scene in the theatre 400 or so times during it’s run. Why such a short scene was dropped from the home video release is beyond me. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-dvds-of-silence-of-the-lambs-empire-strikes-back-others-missing-some-scenes/266451/37 "2004-09-29T19:28:18Z")
IMDB lists alternate versions so you can check there to jog your failing memories. There’s a missing scene from _Murder by Death_ which involved a Sgerlock Holmes-like detective. I remember it from the theatre but it’s been excised from cable, TV, VHS and DVD releases. IIRC there was some dispute with the Holmes rights holders (which I find pretty funny considering what a bastard Neil Simon is about refusing high school forensics students permission to do scenes from his works without paying royalties) and they forced the removal of the scene even though it’s a parody and the character is never even named. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-dvds-of-silence-of-the-lambs-empire-strikes-back-others-missing-some-scenes/266451.md?page=1)