# Are ginger kids the new oppressed minority?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [November 23, 2008, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-ginger-kids-the-new-oppressed-minority/474155 "2008-11-23T22:13:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![vison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e47774/32.png) [@vison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vison)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-ginger-kids-the-new-oppressed-minority/474155/41 "2008-11-25T15:27:18Z")

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> [@Gymnopithys](#):
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> Nobody remembers Rita Hayworth ?

I do, but I’m older than dirt.

Was she a natural redhead, though?

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-ginger-kids-the-new-oppressed-minority/474155/42 "2008-11-25T16:00:51Z")

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[del]Quite possibly. Dad was Spanish but Mom was Irish.[/del]

Edited for correction: Nope. Dark brown.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-ginger-kids-the-new-oppressed-minority/474155/43 "2008-11-27T03:09:04Z")

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> [@vison](#):
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> You go, girl.
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> Um.
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> Guy.

What part of fools-_guy_-nee d’you not unnerstand?

Nah, I kid, I intentionally tend to use non-genderspecific self-identification online.

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2008, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-ginger-kids-the-new-oppressed-minority/474155/44 "2008-11-28T18:16:41Z")

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Ginger kids are kind of the unwanted redheaded stepchild of bullied minorities. 😉

Seriously, I’ve seen reports of and comments on a number of instances where this is a problem. **Valteron** is bringing up an issue. Maybe the whole thing about not bullying **anyone** or stereotyping **anyone** for something that’s part of their innate nature is worthy of being emphasized?

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2008, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-ginger-kids-the-new-oppressed-minority/474155/45 "2008-11-29T16:31:10Z")

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[Seems to be a large problem in England.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1aQfpbjuLE)

Well, big enough to make fun of.

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**Author:** ![Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Speaker_for_the_Dead)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2008, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-ginger-kids-the-new-oppressed-minority/474155/46 "2008-11-29T16:37:20Z")

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If anyone ever comments on my (decreasingly) red hair, it’s positive.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2008, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-ginger-kids-the-new-oppressed-minority/474155/47 "2008-11-29T16:44:27Z")

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My dad is a ginger. We’ve never hugged. I’m not saying there is a connection.

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**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2008, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-ginger-kids-the-new-oppressed-minority/474155/48 "2008-11-29T17:56:57Z")

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I remember when I was a freshman in high school and a protest (by refusing to enter the school and stay outside) against extending the school year was organized. I thought it was stupid, yet I succumbed because I just wanted to participate in a group action that comes along rarely and find out what it would be like.

About the same time, given I had never punched anyone, I was involved with a mild dispute with a neighbour boy. I can still remember clearly, contemplating whether or not to punch him and find out if I could actually throw a decent punch. I did. I had the satisfaction of knowing that I connected very well, but on the other hand I felt nothing else but remorse and never punched anyone else since.

I sort of take this event in the same vein. Kids wanting to know what its like to be a bully on one day,given a group mandate, does not translate into a lifetime of bullying or bigotry. Individual actions should be punished, but I don’t see a hate crime here.

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