# Are Hot Dogs sandwiches? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 22, 2014, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-hot-dogs-sandwiches/707928 "2014-12-22T17:18:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2014, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-hot-dogs-sandwiches/707928/181 "2014-12-28T03:14:06Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > You hit the sweet spot where roughly half the people start to break off based on their own stereotypes of the image of a sandwich they use for their internal image of the basic concept. Awwww, that’s the nicest thing anybody has ever said about me here. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Spud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spud/32/347_2.png) [@Spud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spud)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2014, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-hot-dogs-sandwiches/707928/182 "2014-12-28T03:33:18Z")
> [@Aquadementia](#): > > This proof of yours is a little on the _lite_ side. No, mine wasn’t lite… nor that wimpy 64 or even the robust MGD. It was based on the original High Life, which dates back to biblical times I think. ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2014, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-hot-dogs-sandwiches/707928/183 "2014-12-28T03:46:57Z")
> [@Spud](#): > > I still think it boils down to some of us are smart enough to recognize a sandwich when we see one and some of you aren’t. 😃 I agree with you completely! ---
**Author:** ![Spud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spud/32/347_2.png) [@Spud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spud)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2014, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-hot-dogs-sandwiches/707928/184 "2014-12-28T04:03:24Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > I agree with you completely! Touche ---
**Author:** ![syncrolecyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f08c70/32.png) [@syncrolecyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/syncrolecyne)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2014, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-hot-dogs-sandwiches/707928/185 "2014-12-28T05:31:15Z")
I would interpret “hot dog sandwich” as a diagonally sliced weiner, in 3-5 pieces, in a hamburger bun or in Texas toast, with mustard, beans, or green chile inside. [http://www.yelp.com/biz\_photos/chicos-tacos-el-paso-2?select=zALJim\_T9dlngOXThzq\_Xw#zALJim\_T9dlngOXThzq\_Xw](http://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/chicos-tacos-el-paso-2?select=zALJim_T9dlngOXThzq_Xw#zALJim_T9dlngOXThzq_Xw) ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2014, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-hot-dogs-sandwiches/707928/186 "2014-12-28T07:32:48Z")
You know, if there can be Vegemite sandwiches, and butter sandwiches, I suppose there can be frankfurter sandwiches. So I guess in a way they are. (I voted for Opal.) ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2014, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-hot-dogs-sandwiches/707928/187 "2014-12-28T09:38:13Z")
I would even go so far as to say one or even two wieners sliced lengthwise and placed between two slices of bread or even within a hamburger bun – and hamburgers are not sandwiches either – constitute a sandwich. But a whole wiener in a hotdog bun? That ain’t no sandwich. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-hot-dogs-sandwiches/707928/188 "2021-12-21T18:45:45Z")
Resurrecting because I saw this image of The Cube Rule of Food Identification today that indicates that hot dogs are tacos. (Also Big Macs are cake.) [[Album] imgur.com ![](https://i.imgur.com/JDxc30A.jpeg?fb "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/a/xJ4i1cs) ---
**Author:** ![swampspruce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampspruce/32/261_2.png) [@swampspruce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampspruce)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-hot-dogs-sandwiches/707928/189 "2021-12-21T23:37:04Z")
Thank you! I was just about to post this! And tuna melts and Danish open face sandwiches are toast. ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-hot-dogs-sandwiches/707928/190 "2021-12-21T23:41:23Z")
Burritos are calzones or sushi, depending on how they’re wrapped. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2021, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-hot-dogs-sandwiches/707928/191 "2021-12-22T00:14:10Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Meatish substance, bread, condiments: the definition of a sandwich. Gyoza? ---
**Author:** ![jnglmassiv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f07891/32.png) [@jnglmassiv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jnglmassiv)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2021, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-hot-dogs-sandwiches/707928/192 "2021-12-22T02:15:28Z")
It’s inconceivable that a hot dog or other sausage on bread isn’t a sandwich. I don’t consider tortillas (corn or flour) or ‘wraps’ bread so dishes made from them are not sandwiches. Buns and rolls are bread and things like burgers and Nashville hot chicken and cheesesteaks and po’ boys and McFish are undeniably sandwiches Pita is a tough one because there are a lot of varieties with the really thin ones (lavash) too close to tortilla to qualify as bread but the thicker American Greek gyros ones can approach bread-like characteristics. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2021, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-hot-dogs-sandwiches/707928/193 "2021-12-22T02:17:58Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Gyoza? It took you seven years to come up with that? 😆 ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2021, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-hot-dogs-sandwiches/707928/194 "2021-12-22T02:32:14Z")
If you want to settle this once and for all, here are the contact details for the current Earl: [https://members.parliament.uk/member/2109/contact](https://members.parliament.uk/member/2109/contact) [sandwichj@parliament.uk](mailto:sandwichj@parliament.uk) His voting record is here, but no bill involving the status of hot dogs seems to have come up recently. [https://members.parliament.uk/member/2109/voting](https://members.parliament.uk/member/2109/voting) ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2021, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-hot-dogs-sandwiches/707928/195 "2021-12-22T02:51:02Z")
While I agree with my past self, I have a different argument today. Let’s say the bun to my hotdog broke. Would that fundamentally alter the nature of the dish? Would someone say “that’s no longer a hotdog?” I don’t think so. Now the more relevant: what if the hotdog is made with a slice of bread? Sure, some people would say it’s a different dish. But I wouldn’t. To me, it tastes the same. Or, more precisely, the difference between using sliced bread and a special hotdog bun is less than simply using a different type of bun. Similarly, what if someone used a hotdog bun with a different filling? Would that be more different than if they used a different style of bread? I would say no. Heck, there’s the sub sandwich, which uses what is essentially a longer hotdog bun. Yet I think most people still consider it a sandwich. The chains all seem to use the word “sandwich,” at least. I would continue to argue that a hotdog (on a bun) is a type of sandwich, but just not the default type. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-hot-dogs-sandwiches/707928/196 "2021-12-27T05:58:17Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > FWIW in old movies they often will say “Hamburger Sandwiches”. That was what they were called but the name shrunk over time. Shrank. That is all. Except that McDonalds calls their Filet-O-Fish (which is served on a burger bun) a Filet-O-Fish _Sandwich_. So being on a hamburger bun does not disqualify something from the sandwich category. And it’s a good thing, too. If I’m all out of Wonder Bread and only have hamburger buns on hand, I’m sure as FUCK not making myself a peanut butter and jelly BURGER. ---
**Author:** ![swampspruce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampspruce/32/261_2.png) [@swampspruce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampspruce)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2022, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-hot-dogs-sandwiches/707928/197 "2022-01-21T17:21:43Z")
Peanut butter on a hamburger is a thing. > **[Peanut Butter and Jelly Bacon Cheeseburger](https://www.simplecomfortfood.com/2013/08/05/peanut-butter-and-jelly-bacon-cheeseburger/amp/)** > > A perfect balance of sweet, salty, and savory. This Peanut Butter and Jelly Bacon Cheeseburger will rock your world. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-hot-dogs-sandwiches/707928/198 "2022-01-22T02:11:38Z")
I’ve had that burger or almost that burger in Phoenix (or the area). I don’t think mine had jelly on it; I could be wrong. But it definitely had the peanut butter and bacon. It was … rich. Too much so. I also had a peanut butter, and bacon in a Twinkie (as bun), in Chandler (Phoenix suburb) about ten years ago.Here’s an image I could find of it. I present to you, the Twilly (from the now-defunct Pittsburgh Willy’s): [![](https://fastly.4sqi.net/img/general/width960/6663037_s-PS8UlVszDhtqEd5PWoUO-6YD7aJs4gjYyYCj3Dkf4.jpg) ](https://fastly.4sqi.net/img/general/width960/6663037_s-PS8UlVszDhtqEd5PWoUO-6YD7aJs4gjYyYCj3Dkf4.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-hot-dogs-sandwiches/707928/199 "2022-01-22T02:41:19Z")
Mix Sriracha sauce and peanut butter. I learned that from Chefguy. ---
**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-hot-dogs-sandwiches/707928/200 "2022-01-22T02:49:51Z")
Details? But OP yes, Hot Dogs as I think of them (sausage positioned between sliced bun) is absolutely a sandwich. I think posted upthread: there are open faced sandwiches and ice cream sandwiches… And while we’re at it yes, ketchup belongs on a hotdog. Even if it has already been topped with chili. Yes. Just yes. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-hot-dogs-sandwiches/707928.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-hot-dogs-sandwiches/707928.md?page=11)