# Are human beings the mosy populous  mammalisn specied? If so, most populous above insects?

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Are human beings the mosy populous mammalisn specied? If so, most populous above insects?

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
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There are estimated to be over 20 billion mice on the planet.

It’s estimated that there are 10 quintillion insects on the planet.

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Mosy populous mammalisn specied? Maybe (but we have competition from the house mouse.) most populous above insects? [Not even close](https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/30/science/bristlemouth-ocean-deep-sea-cyclothone.html).

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> There are estimated to be over 20 billion mice on the planet.
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> It’s estimated that there are 10 quintillion insects on the planet.

But “mouse” and “insect” are not species. (“Mouse” probably isn’t even a cladistic grouping.) What is the most populous species of mouse, and what is the most populous species of insect?

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**Author:** ![Gymnopithys](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/fbc32d/32.png) [@Gymnopithys](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gymnopithys)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-human-beings-the-mosy-populous-mammalisn-specied-if-so-most-populous-above-insects/839101/5 "2019-08-23T14:11:00Z")

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**Are human beings the mosy populous mammalisn specied?**

Couldn’t you give a second look at what you’re writing before posting ?

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**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-human-beings-the-mosy-populous-mammalisn-specied-if-so-most-populous-above-insects/839101/6 "2019-08-23T14:34:59Z")

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According to [this](https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2011/11/03/141946751/along-with-humans-who-else-is-in-the-7-billion-club), there are over twice as many chickens as humans, and almost 100,000 times as many krill (Euphausia suberba) as humans.

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-human-beings-the-mosy-populous-mammalisn-specied-if-so-most-populous-above-insects/839101/7 "2019-08-23T14:39:27Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> There are estimated to be over 20 billion mice on the planet.

Are all “mice” the same species, or is it a blanket term that covers more than one species?

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**Author:** ![Steven\_Estes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Steven\_Estes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steven_Estes)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-human-beings-the-mosy-populous-mammalisn-specied-if-so-most-populous-above-insects/839101/8 "2019-08-23T14:41:23Z")

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Whar’s wrong with writing?

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> [@Steven\_Estes](#):
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> Whar’s wrong with writing?

There are 8 words in the first sentence of your OP, 3 of which are spelled wrong. Four words in your second post, one spelled wrong. Some people object to bad spelling and grammar around here.

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-human-beings-the-mosy-populous-mammalisn-specied-if-so-most-populous-above-insects/839101/10 "2019-08-23T14:55:46Z")

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> [@Crotalus](#):
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> Four words in your second post, one spelled wrong. Some people object to bad spelling and grammar around here.

Hey, give him a break! He only joined 18 years ago.

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-human-beings-the-mosy-populous-mammalisn-specied-if-so-most-populous-above-insects/839101/11 "2019-08-23T15:03:12Z")

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> [@markn\_1](#):
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> According to [this](https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2011/11/03/141946751/along-with-humans-who-else-is-in-the-7-billion-club), there are over twice as many chickens as humans, and almost 100,000 times as many krill (Euphausia suberba) as humans.

Chicken aren’t mammals.

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-human-beings-the-mosy-populous-mammalisn-specied-if-so-most-populous-above-insects/839101/12 "2019-08-23T15:10:28Z")

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50% wrong in the first sentence, 25% in the second. He’s progressing.

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According to [this](https://www.businessinsider.com/bristlemouth-fish-is-the-most-abundant-vertebrate-on-earth-2015-6) The tan bristlemouth fish is the most populous vertebrate on the planet, by an astoundingly wide margin. Like there’s quadrillions of the buggers swimming around in the deep ocean.

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There are the odd \*rattus norvegicus \*around the planet.  
They’d outnumber us by one, maybe two orders of magnitude.

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> [@Shalmanese](#):
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> Chicken aren’t mammals.

Oh, the OP is asking about mammalian species. I thought he was asking about mammalisn species. 🙂

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The “tan bristlemouth fish” is the most populous as a genus, not as a species (there are 32 species says wiki).

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-human-beings-the-mosy-populous-mammalisn-specied-if-so-most-populous-above-insects/839101/17 "2019-08-23T16:26:30Z")

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Just a precision: dividing those trillions by 32, that fish may still be the most populous vertebrate on earth.

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> [@Shalmanese](#):
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> Chicken aren’t mammals.

So what’s an Egg Cream then, huh? Explain THAT!

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> [@Shalmanese](#):
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> Chicken aren’t mammals.

It’s still relevant to the second half of the question though, whether humans might be most numerous after insects\*. The answer to that one being clear: no.

Among mammals it’s possible that getting technical about ‘species’ could put any single species of mice or rats (like Norway Rats, which exist worldwide) behind humans, or not. But mice, and rats probably, are more common types of animals than people, under the usual understanding of ‘types’ of animals if not technically ‘species’.

Rough answer without getting tied down in technicalities would seem to me: some rodent types have comparable or greater numbers than humans though not orders of magnitude greater, but loads of non mammalian types of animal are orders of magnitude more numerous than humans, far beyond insects.

\*which as also noted before are not a species, but their numbers are so many orders of magnitude more than humans there’s seems little doubt single insect species also exceed the number of humans.

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> [@penultima\_thule](#):
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> There are the odd \*rattus norvegicus \*around the planet.  
> They’d outnumber us by one, maybe two orders of magnitude.

That’s the obvious answer. I thought everyone knew there are more brown rats than humans.

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