# Are Kellyanne and George Conway declaring a truce?
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-kellyanne-and-george-conway-declaring-a-truce/918848
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [August 24, 2020, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-kellyanne-and-george-conway-declaring-a-truce/918848 "2020-08-24T02:28:13Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 8
### Author:  [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-kellyanne-and-george-conway-declaring-a-truce/918848/141 "2020-08-25T17:48:55Z")
I think we agree a lot more than we disagree.
The thing that makes Conway’s situation different from your ex-wife is the ethical aspects of her job. You ex-wife made a choice that the wealth and prestige and self respect that she got from her job was worth paying the penalty in her personal life. It may not have been the wisest choice and it had an unfortunate impact on her relationships with you and your family but in the end it was her choice. and she could make a convincing argument, to her self at least, that it was the right one for her.
But if your job requires you to engage in behavior that you and your family know is morally reprehensible, the fact that the job gives you money and prestige that you would not be able to obtain otherwise is not an excuse to keep doing it. This isn’t just a matter of alternative priorities its a matter of right vs wrong. It may have taken you a lot of work and effort to make it from street dealer to drug kingpin, but that doesn’t give you license to keep doing what your doing.
---
### Author:  [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2020, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-kellyanne-and-george-conway-declaring-a-truce/918848/142 "2020-08-25T18:14:37Z")
[quote=“Temporary\_Name, post:131, topic:918848”]…
However I have to admire her perseverance in showing up to a job and a boss we know she must HATE, and doing her professional best to spin his insanity. …
[/quote]
Why do you “know” that? I don’t.
Tho I try to avoid watching/listening to her, she never impressed me as showing any signs of operating under duress, defending positions she disagreed with. To the contrary, she always appeared almost gleeful as she insulted people’s common sense and spewed demonstrable lies. If she DID HATE her boss/job - what prevented her from quitting some time ago?
Access to power - such as she enjoys - can be pretty heady stuff. To me, it makes more sense that she is willing to sublimate any personal ethics (IF she has any), because the thinks the present and future benefits worth it.
---
### Author:  [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2020, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-kellyanne-and-george-conway-declaring-a-truce/918848/143 "2020-08-25T18:38:58Z")
As I said, when I was a young adult I knew at least three people who’d been emancipated as minors. And honestly, none of them had healthy behaviors - I bet your friend didn’t either. Because by the time you get to “I need to bring in the courts and legally end my relationship with your parents” you have been screwed up. But is staying in a situation which at least contributed to the healthy behaviors for another two to three years (a long time in the development of a teenagers) healthier than emancipation? Emancipation can put her in a situation where she can start developing her own behaviors that aren’t influenced by others - and they may still be screwed up (frankly everyone’s are, we are all human), but at least she will be responsible for them.
I think all of this is why the courts decide this and public opinion doesn’t. And the courts will. I suspect for Kellyanne and George, the courts were going to look favorably on their daughter’s petition as long as they continued in their high profile, public, toxic behaviors that leave very little room for raising a teenager.
---
### Author:  [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2020, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-kellyanne-and-george-conway-declaring-a-truce/918848/144 "2020-08-25T19:12:59Z")
Yeah, I meant the tough, no-nonsense sort of attitude she is famous for, even before the show from what I’ve read.
~Max
---
### Author:  [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2020, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-kellyanne-and-george-conway-declaring-a-truce/918848/145 "2020-08-25T19:15:21Z")
> [@Dangerosa](#):
>
> I think all of this is why the courts decide this and public opinion doesn’t. And the courts will. I suspect for Kellyanne and George, the courts were going to look favorably on their daughter’s petition as long as they continued in their high profile, public, toxic behaviors that leave very little room for raising a teenager.
There will be no petition for emancipation. It’s never going to happen. The kid was enjoying the attention of nearly half a million followers on twitter. Who knows how many more on other social media. Her parents were very influential and very controversial public figures in national politics. She got attention by rebelling first against her mother and then upped the ante to include her father. Now that they have stepped down from their jobs to focus their energies on a kid whose public acting out has become a threat to their family unit, they have effectively cut off her fuel of rebellion. Political values and morals aside, it was the responsible thing to do. A little late. Maybe a dollar short. But they have effectively taken the power back. And probably her phone as well for a while. I understand the temptation to paint this kid in the holiest light of righteous moral rectitude to contrast with the highly questionable political position of her mother (and father, to some extent). But I’m going to need to hear some highly persuasive arguments and evidence that this is anything but the actions of a neglected and spoiled brat who received way too much attention on social media and not nearly enough attention and discipline from her parents. And since she is minor, and since her parents now decided to step out of the public spotlight, I don’t expect there will be a lot of that forthcoming. Which is not to say that I don’t wish them all well and that I’m not grateful that we’ll be hearing a lot less from all of them, especially Kellyanne Conway.
---
### Author:  [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2020, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-kellyanne-and-george-conway-declaring-a-truce/918848/146 "2020-08-25T19:47:34Z")
Claudia made three posts on TikTok after her parents resigned: one about Kellyanne, one about George, and one repeating that she’s taking a break from social media.
The one after George stepped down from the Lincoln Project:
> “The power i hold - i— they think this is gonna stop me from getting emancipated? NANSHAJAB BYE.”
---
### Author:  [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2020, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-kellyanne-and-george-conway-declaring-a-truce/918848/147 "2020-08-25T19:49:11Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#):
>
> There will be no petition for emancipation. It’s never going to happen.
How can you be so sure? My own assumption is that, unless there is an actual, documented history of abuse (physical, emotional, and/or sexual) it is unlikely that there will be a SUCCESSFUL petition. That doesn’t mean an actual petition won’t be filed.
Absent someone in the family deliberately making the petition public, or a news outlet choosing to publicize it, I’m not sure how the rest of us would ever know. Are those legal proceedings even part of the public record, given that one party is a juvenile? I don’t know, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they are sealed.
---
### Author:  [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2020, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-kellyanne-and-george-conway-declaring-a-truce/918848/148 "2020-08-25T19:52:00Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#):
>
> How can you be so sure? My own assumption is that, unless there is an actual, documented history of abuse (physical, emotional, and/or sexual) it is unlikely that there will be a SUCCESSFUL petition. That doesn’t mean an actual petition won’t be filed.
Unless there is some compelling evidence that any abuse has taken place, to repeat this as if it a plausible motive is simply irresponsible.
> [@CairoCarol](#):
>
> Absent someone in the family deliberately making the petition public, or a news outlet choosing to publicize it, I’m not sure how the rest of us would ever know. Are those legal proceedings even part of the public record, given that one party is a juvenile? I don’t know, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they are sealed.
You think she’s going to keep a secret ?
---
### Author:  [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2020, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-kellyanne-and-george-conway-declaring-a-truce/918848/149 "2020-08-25T19:56:02Z")
Are we talking about the same thing? As far as I can tell, you are saying, “she’ll never file a petition.”
I am saying, “I don’t think the petition will be successful unless she can prove abuse. But that won’t necessarily stop her from filing it.”
How can you be so sure she will never even file? Do you know something I don’t about barriers to taking that step?
---
### Author:  [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2020, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-kellyanne-and-george-conway-declaring-a-truce/918848/150 "2020-08-25T20:04:41Z")
You’re right. I misread what you posted. I understand what you’re saying now.
But I really don’t believe she’s going to go through with it.
I think they’ve lost control and she’s going to say whatever she wants on social media.
She posted this as well according to reports: _“Look what I did! Look at what I did, ladies and gentlemen.”_, in addition to what **Skywatcher** posted above.
---
### Author:  [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2020, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-kellyanne-and-george-conway-declaring-a-truce/918848/151 "2020-08-25T20:22:55Z")
I think you could be right - if I found out definitively that she never filed, it wouldn’t surprise me.
However, I’m not sure we’ll ever know that for sure, unless someone (one of the family members, presumably) makes a point of saying on social media that Claudia did not file. Likewise, we may never know if she DOES file. I think it is a pretty limited set of circumstances that lead to the rest of us knowing for sure either way.
---
### Author:  [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2020, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-kellyanne-and-george-conway-declaring-a-truce/918848/152 "2020-08-25T20:25:16Z")
I think there can be little doubt that if she does file and especially if she succeeds, we will absolutely hear about it before the ink is wet.
---
### Author:  [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2020, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-kellyanne-and-george-conway-declaring-a-truce/918848/153 "2020-08-25T20:37:22Z")
Wait a moment… Kellyanne said that she was stepping down to be able to spend more time on homeschooling? Implying that she’s already homeschooling her daughter? Well, then, that explains why she’s not pursuing this through her school counselor. And incidentally highlights a very ugly side of homeschooling. Kudos on her for finding a way out, despite her parents having already closed off all of the standard routes, and shame on us as a society for letting things get to where this was her best option.
---
### Author:  [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2020, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-kellyanne-and-george-conway-declaring-a-truce/918848/154 "2020-08-25T20:37:58Z")
oh yeah…if she succeeds I think it is far more likely we’ll know.
---
### Author:  [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2020, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-kellyanne-and-george-conway-declaring-a-truce/918848/155 "2020-08-25T21:01:01Z")
> [@HelenTroy](#):
>
> I’m guessing you have no idea that “Savage” with that line was the song of the summer by Megan Thee Stallion and the biggest tiktok dance.
Yeah, that made me laugh, too. I first heard it when a dachshund I follow on youtube (moonbox starbox) was doing the “savage dance.”
---
### Author:  [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2020, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-kellyanne-and-george-conway-declaring-a-truce/918848/156 "2020-08-25T21:09:37Z")
> [@carrps](#):
>
> Yeah, that made me laugh, too.
Guilty as charged. In my (pitiful) defense, I was only quoting the Post (a bad idea in the best of times). I think the writer picked that quote out of her Twitter feed in a similar state of ignorance.
Anyway, the link made it clear to me that I have reached venerable old fart status. Get off my lawn! NOW!
---
### Author:  [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2020, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-kellyanne-and-george-conway-declaring-a-truce/918848/157 "2020-08-25T21:19:00Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#):
>
> Anyway, the link made it clear to me that I have reached venerable old fart status. Get off my lawn! NOW!
I’m an old fart, too! But I catch snippets of popular culture through sometimes odd channels. As I said, it was a dachshund who led me to the savage dance. 🙃
---
### Author:  [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2020, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-kellyanne-and-george-conway-declaring-a-truce/918848/158 "2020-08-25T21:32:40Z")
Mary Matalin and James Carville are political opposites and somehow were able to keep their political careers and maintain their marriage. Few couples would be able to compartmentalize that and the Conways weren’t able to.
---
### Author:  [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2020, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-kellyanne-and-george-conway-declaring-a-truce/918848/159 "2020-08-25T21:37:28Z")
It’s the SDMB that makes me aware of stuff! I often know references my 22-year-old son makes, while my ex is all “huh? what’re you talking about?”
So now I’m one of the cool kids, because I know what a “savage” is 😄
---
### Author:  [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2020, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-kellyanne-and-george-conway-declaring-a-truce/918848/160 "2020-08-25T21:38:08Z")
Except George Conway and Kellyanne Conway are both Republicans. So not really political opposites.
[Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-kellyanne-and-george-conway-declaring-a-truce/918848.md?page=7)
[Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-kellyanne-and-george-conway-declaring-a-truce/918848.md?page=9)