# Are male gynecologists professionals or perverts?--this guy says "Perverts!" **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 1, 2009, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-male-gynecologists-professionals-or-perverts-this-guy-says-perverts/508533 "2009-09-01T20:35:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bc8723/32.png) [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-male-gynecologists-professionals-or-perverts-this-guy-says-perverts/508533/21 "2009-09-01T21:53:32Z")
You know what’s really perverse and disgusting? All these women squeezing babies through their _looks around, whispers_ _unmentionable areas_. The only reason to do \*that \*is for sexual kicks. Won’t someone think of these poor molested children? Put me down in the “nothing less sexy than a pelvic exam” column. And from the other perspective, I agree, looking at bajingo maladies all day probably makes it challenging to get excited about your own sex life, never mind being lasciviously interested in all the crotches you treat at work. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-male-gynecologists-professionals-or-perverts-this-guy-says-perverts/508533/22 "2009-09-01T21:58:18Z")
> [@StaudtCJ](#): > > Why do the religious nutjobs assume men are incompetent and strange beings with no self control and overactive sex drives? I have yet to meet these men of which they refer. It’s projection. You want to find these men, follow the noise to its source. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-male-gynecologists-professionals-or-perverts-this-guy-says-perverts/508533/23 "2009-09-01T22:03:50Z")
> [@StaudtCJ](#): > > Why do the religious nutjobs assume men are incompetent and strange beings with no self control and overactive sex drives? I think they’re projecting. Like that guy a while back who assumed that if homosexuality was acceptable women would lose all their men to the gays. **tdn** beat me to a proctology joke. As ridiculous as this guy is, I don’t see why the fundies wouldn’t go after regular reproductive health care for women, if they ever succeeded in banning abortion, Plan B, hormonal contraception and IUDs. In fact, it seems Canadian doctors can [already refuse to perform pap smears](http://www.feministing.com/archives/008669.html) under the ‘conscience clause.’ ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-male-gynecologists-professionals-or-perverts-this-guy-says-perverts/508533/24 "2009-09-01T22:12:02Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > Psst! Don’t tell this guy about proctologists. Well now, here’s a quandary. As a male, should I be seeking a male or female proctologist? A female finger up my ass might count as adultery, but a male one might make me catch the gay. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-male-gynecologists-professionals-or-perverts-this-guy-says-perverts/508533/25 "2009-09-01T22:25:08Z")
> [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](#): > > Put me down in the “nothing less sexy than a pelvic exam” column. And from the other perspective, I agree, looking at bajingo maladies all day probably makes it challenging to get excited about your own sex life, never mind being lasciviously interested in all the crotches you treat at work. My high school once brought our countries’ most famous shrink for a chat with the students, a Dr. Phil of sorts, who had a radio show for decades. During the question and answer time somebody asked him what it took to become a psychiatrist, he answered (among other things) that it was a lot more difficult for a psychiatrist to stop seeing his female (or male patients, as they case might be) as sexual beings. He explained that ob-gyns quickly understood that they treated body parts, the inside of a vagina wasn’t more exciting for the ob-gyn that the inside of the mouth for a dentist. A dentist doesn’t fantasize about oral sex while pulling out molars. He said he’d never heard of an ob-gyn that had an affair with a patient, for a shrink it’s not unheard of. The shrink can peek into people’s thoughts, desires, sexuality, fears. For some it was too dangerous a path to take. Of course, if you are a fundamentalist loony, you probably wouldn’t let your wife see a shrink either. BTW, my obstetrician’s explanation for becoming one: “Most of my patients are not sick”. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-male-gynecologists-professionals-or-perverts-this-guy-says-perverts/508533/26 "2009-09-01T22:25:31Z")
> [@Cat\_Fight](#): > > In fact, it seems Canadian doctors can [already refuse to perform pap smears](http://www.feministing.com/archives/008669.html) under the ‘conscience clause.’ Erm… any doctor who doesn’t understand that pap smears are necessary even for women who aren’t sexually active should have their medical license revoked. And be sterilized. ---
**Author:** ![Skara\_Brae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Skara\_Brae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skara_Brae)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-male-gynecologists-professionals-or-perverts-this-guy-says-perverts/508533/27 "2009-09-01T22:28:22Z")
> [@Mighty\_Girl](#): > > I’d say sexist. > > What’s wrong with men becoming ob-gyn? I don’t mind it, I have been examined by ob-gyn of both gender and couldn’t care less. We’re not there to make friends, or have a glass of wine and chit-chat. A visit to the ob-gyn is the unsexiest experience I can think of, contrary to what porn would make you believe Actually, a glass of wine would make the whole experience better. I think that should become part of the process…😃 ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-male-gynecologists-professionals-or-perverts-this-guy-says-perverts/508533/28 "2009-09-01T22:33:39Z")
> [@DianaG](#): > > Erm… any doctor who doesn’t understand that pap smears are necessary even for women who aren’t sexually active should have their medical license revoked. And be sterilized. Or given cervical cancer. Whichever. ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-male-gynecologists-professionals-or-perverts-this-guy-says-perverts/508533/29 "2009-09-01T22:52:26Z")
> [@Cat\_Fight](#): > > As ridiculous as this guy is, I don’t see why the fundies wouldn’t go after regular reproductive health care for women, if they ever succeeded in banning abortion, Plan B, hormonal contraception and IUDs. In fact, it seems Canadian doctors can [already refuse to perform pap smears](http://www.feministing.com/archives/008669.html) under the ‘conscience clause.’ Holy shit, they probably would have refused to tie my tubes when I was in my early 20s because it was my duty to risk certain death to reproduce, and they would have refused to do my hysterectomy this time because they could have simply removed the 8 cm mystery tumor on my left ovary, with the ovary because I still would have one to produce eggs to get pregnant with … and not to mind the hemmoraging, it would probably stop when i got pregnant… ---
**Author:** ![Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Speaker_for_the_Dead)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-male-gynecologists-professionals-or-perverts-this-guy-says-perverts/508533/30 "2009-09-01T23:06:27Z")
For a little more perspective, I’m a 22-year-old male, straight, student who shadowed a gynecologist as she did pelvic exams, and it was anything but “sexy.” ---
**Author:** ![Valgard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7feea3/32.png) [@Valgard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valgard)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-male-gynecologists-professionals-or-perverts-this-guy-says-perverts/508533/31 "2009-09-01T23:45:26Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > Well now, here’s a quandary. As a male, should I be seeking a male or female proctologist? A female finger up my ass might count as adultery, but a male one might make me catch the gay. I suggest a proctologist with small fingers. Took me one prostate exam to understand exactly what women say about pelvic exams - there ain’t nothing sexy about it. ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_the_Impaler)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2009, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-male-gynecologists-professionals-or-perverts-this-guy-says-perverts/508533/32 "2009-09-02T01:24:10Z")
> [@susan](#): > > Plus any woman will tell you how unbelievably erotic a GYN visit is. “Okay,” ::snap of a rubber glove:: "just schooch down a bit… " BOW-CHICKA-BOW-WOW… ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2009, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-male-gynecologists-professionals-or-perverts-this-guy-says-perverts/508533/33 "2009-09-02T01:39:57Z")
Wait, does this apply to the female GP who checked me for hernias as well? Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2009, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-male-gynecologists-professionals-or-perverts-this-guy-says-perverts/508533/34 "2009-09-02T03:07:58Z")
> [@badbadrubberpiggy](#): > > Also, I wonder how HE knows so much about what goes on during a gyno exam? Clearly, he’s been discussing this at length. With women. Who’s the perv now, huh? He’s not a perv! He heroically threw himself on the sin grenade to save everyone else! It’s clearly his moral duty to discuss any and all aspects of sex and female body parts with women ( in detail, with pictures ) in order to save the less morally pure from having to do so. It’s just part of the burden he has to bear. ---
**Author:** ![MoodIndigo1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e8c25b/32.png) [@MoodIndigo1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MoodIndigo1)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2009, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-male-gynecologists-professionals-or-perverts-this-guy-says-perverts/508533/35 "2009-09-02T03:17:31Z")
About doctors refusing to perform certain medical acts: surely those are rare, and other doctors are available to provide those services. When I’ve heard about the conscience clause it was related to abortion and particularly late abortions. I have never been refused, or known anyone who’s been refused, or anyone’s daughter who’s been refused pap smears, or birth control, or abortions. To imply that people are refused pap smears in Canada-- as appears from the outrage following that post is simply wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2009, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-male-gynecologists-professionals-or-perverts-this-guy-says-perverts/508533/36 "2009-09-02T03:48:38Z")
> [@Ex\_Chemist](#): > > This is a self correcting issue. This pastor, and all his followers, should stop seeing doctors and using all medical technology. Many will die of infections (no antibiotics!) each year. A goodly percentage of the women will die in childbirth. In a few years, there’ll be hardly any left. > > Problem solved. Amusing as the thought is, thousands upon thousands of years of human survival without modern medical technology say you are wrong. ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2009, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-male-gynecologists-professionals-or-perverts-this-guy-says-perverts/508533/37 "2009-09-02T05:31:35Z")
> [@Pastor Steven L Anderson](#): > > (I will not go into detail of what goes on in the doctor’s office for decency’s sake, but any woman who has been there knows what I am referring to.) [BronzeLion](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=80750) is a pastor now? ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2009, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-male-gynecologists-professionals-or-perverts-this-guy-says-perverts/508533/38 "2009-09-02T07:01:08Z")
> [@Athena](#): > > . > > Seriously, why would a guy go into gynecology, in this day & age? You might want to consider that not every girl going into a GYN’s office is a Victoria’s Secrect model. Not even close. They do it for the same reason some doctors go into proctology; more money than a GP. (or so I’ve been told.) Also, last time I checked; doctors don’t exactly have a hard time get’n dates. So your paranoid theory that doctors need to trick women in order to see their vaginas is just pure stupidity. ---
**Author:** ![anya\_marie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@anya\_marie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anya_marie)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2009, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-male-gynecologists-professionals-or-perverts-this-guy-says-perverts/508533/39 "2009-09-02T07:06:27Z")
Snow will fall on the beaches of HAWAII before i give a shit what some whackjob assasination-inciting preacher has to say about healthcare. That crazy fuck can cram it with walnuts, AFAIC I hate going to the doctor and there is nothing sexy about it AT all…NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING. ---
**Author:** ![badbadrubberpiggy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/57b2e6/32.png) [@badbadrubberpiggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/badbadrubberpiggy)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2009, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-male-gynecologists-professionals-or-perverts-this-guy-says-perverts/508533/40 "2009-09-02T13:08:04Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > He’s not a perv! He heroically threw himself on the sin grenade to save everyone else! It’s clearly his moral duty to discuss any and all aspects of sex and female body parts with women ( in detail, with pictures ) in order to save the less morally pure from having to do so. It’s just part of the burden he has to bear. Hah! That poor, poor man, thinking about sex all the time. Also, “sin grenade” is my new favorite phrase. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-male-gynecologists-professionals-or-perverts-this-guy-says-perverts/508533.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-male-gynecologists-professionals-or-perverts-this-guy-says-perverts/508533.md?page=3)