# Are males being led to the slaughter? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 14, 2015, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771 "2015-01-14T00:41:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![The\_Observer\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f0a364/32.png) [@The\_Observer\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Observer_1)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/1 "2015-01-14T00:41:04Z")
I’m curious of what you all think of this video: Is masculinity going to die? Is this is a good thing? What say you. Personally, I know masculinity is essential to the survival of the human race, and has infinite value. Even though, I’m still curious what all of you have to say on this subject matter. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/2 "2015-01-14T00:44:29Z")
No one taught me to hate myself. Feminists helped me see ways I was being thoughtless, so I corrected my behavior. Simple, really, and hate has nothing to do with it. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/3 "2015-01-14T00:45:47Z")
I lost interest after 42 seconds. What’s the argument that masculinity is going to die and what is meant by “masculinity?” ---
**Author:** ![chiroptera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@chiroptera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chiroptera)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/4 "2015-01-14T00:47:12Z")
> [@The\_Observer](#): > > I’m curious of what you all think of this video: > > Is masculinity going to die? Is this is a good thing? What say you. > > Personally, I know masculinity is essential to the survival of the human race, and has infinite value. Even though, I’m still curious what all of you have to say on this subject matter. Good lord, what an insipid piece of shit. Reported for being an insipid piece of shirt. And spam. And really, really boring. ---
**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/5 "2015-01-14T00:47:46Z")
The video is like the world’s most poorly conceived car commercial. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/6 "2015-01-14T00:48:27Z")
> [@The\_Observer](#): > > Personally, I know masculinity is essential to the survival of the human race, and has infinite value. Can you defend either of those observations? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Observer\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f0a364/32.png) [@The\_Observer\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Observer_1)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/7 "2015-01-14T00:48:37Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I lost interest after 42 seconds. What’s the argument that masculinity is going to die and what is meant by “masculinity?” Masculine men are becoming increasingly rare in our world. At this rate, it would not be an irrational argument to say masculine men will be all but extinct within 100 years time in the 1st world. ---
**Author:** ![chiroptera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@chiroptera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chiroptera)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/8 "2015-01-14T00:49:37Z")
Yeah, this not going well so far, from the OP’s POV. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Observer\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f0a364/32.png) [@The\_Observer\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Observer_1)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/9 "2015-01-14T00:49:39Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Can you defend either of those observations? Not in a logical manner, it’s something that is very subjective, albeit something I know. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Observer\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f0a364/32.png) [@The\_Observer\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Observer_1)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/10 "2015-01-14T00:51:46Z")
> [@chiroptera](#): > > Good lord, what an insipid piece of shit. > > Reported for being an insipid piece of shirt. And spam. And really, really boring. Like I care. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![chiroptera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@chiroptera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chiroptera)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/11 "2015-01-14T00:51:52Z")
> [@The\_Observer](#): > > Masculine men are becoming increasingly rare in our world. At this rate, it would not be an irrational argument to say masculine men will be all but extinct within 100 years time in the 1st world. Whatever. :dubious::rolleyes: What’s your definition of a “masculine” man, anyway? ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/12 "2015-01-14T00:52:14Z")
> [@The\_Observer](#): > > …At this rate, it would not be an irrational argument to say masculine men will be all but extinct within 100 years time in the 1st world. Actually, it would be an extremely irrational argument, crazy even. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Observer\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f0a364/32.png) [@The\_Observer\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Observer_1)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/13 "2015-01-14T00:53:59Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > Actually, it would be an extremely irrational argument, crazy even. If you think this is an irrational argument, you are not paying attention. That is all. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Observer\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f0a364/32.png) [@The\_Observer\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Observer_1)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/14 "2015-01-14T00:55:19Z")
> [@chiroptera](#): > > Whatever. :dubious::rolleyes: > What’s your definition of a “masculine” man, anyway? Somebody who has honor, courage, a fighting spirit, a protector, one who has a deep love for the feminine spirit. This need not be explained. Why do you ask questions you already know the answer to? ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/15 "2015-01-14T00:56:40Z")
Well, I only watched 6 minutes of that crap, and that’s 6 minutes of my life I’ll never get back. What was the point? I work with women who fulfil all the roles I managed to see, and I know males who are nurses and admin assistants. Masculinity and femininity are converging. There are still biological roles for both of us, but we’re more equal now than ever. At least in the civilized and educated world. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Observer\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f0a364/32.png) [@The\_Observer\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Observer_1)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/16 "2015-01-14T00:59:16Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > Well, I only watched 6 minutes of that crap, and that’s 6 minutes of my life I’ll never get back. > > What was the point? I work with women who fulfil all the roles I managed to see, and I know males who are nurses and admin assistants. > > Masculinity and femininity are converging. There are still biological roles for both of us, but we’re more equal now than ever. At least in the civilized and educated world. The point was to wake up the general public to the deep antagonism our culture has towards masculinity. I know you probably think I’m an MRA. MRA’s are just feminists in reverse and I want nothing to do with them. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/17 "2015-01-14T00:59:54Z")
> [@The\_Observer](#): > > Somebody who has honor, courage, a fighting spirit, a protector, one who has a deep love for the feminine spirit. This need not be explained. Why do you ask questions you already know the answer to? It does need to be explained. When I think “masculine man” I generally think “raging asshole,” but I was open to the idea it has a more positive meaning. I’m okay with honor and courage. I’m a bit concerned with “fighting spirit,” although I suppose it depends on what that means too. There’s no reason a woman or non-masculine man couldn’t have a bit of fighting spirit in them. ETA: “The point was to wake up the general public to the deep antagonism our culture has towards masculinity.” Guilty as charged. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/18 "2015-01-14T01:02:32Z")
> [@The\_Observer](#): > > Somebody who has honor, courage, a fighting spirit, a protector, one who has a deep love for the feminine spirit. Virgin? Unlucky in love? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Observer\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f0a364/32.png) [@The\_Observer\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Observer_1)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/19 "2015-01-14T01:04:34Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > It does need to be explained. When I think “masculine man” I generally think “raging asshole,” but I was open to the idea it has a more positive meaning. > > I’m okay with honor and courage. I’m a bit concerned with “fighting spirit,” although I suppose it depends on what that means too. There’s no reason a woman or non-masculine man couldn’t have a bit of fighting spirit in them. > > ETA: “The point was to wake up the general public to the deep antagonism our culture has towards masculinity.” Guilty as charged. Masculinity has nothing to do with being a raging asshole, this does not need to be explained. The fighting spirit is something that is an essential aspect of masculinity, without it, we would still be in the stone age. You may be concerned about it, but you wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for it, so your point is dead in the water. If you’re guilty as charged, then I wish the best of luck to you. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Observer\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f0a364/32.png) [@The\_Observer\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Observer_1)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/20 "2015-01-14T01:06:39Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > Virgin? Unlucky in love? Your hostility reinforces my argument. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771.md?page=2)