# Are males being led to the slaughter?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [January 14, 2015, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771 "2015-01-14T00:41:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/81 "2015-01-14T13:03:52Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> Well, at least the OP stuck around for a few replies instead of an immediate duck-and-run.

Indeed. Makes one rethink the idea of criticizing those who do duck-and-run!

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/82 "2015-01-14T13:18:38Z")

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> [@Bridget\_Burke](#):
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> But then he\* did\* duck & run.

Guess he has to work on that courage thing.

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/83 "2015-01-14T13:21:43Z")

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> [@The\_Observer](#):
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> You mangina, how come you no have brain?

I have a theory that the same guys who use “you mangina” in their message board posts also use “my boipusy” in their Craigslist ads.

Anyway, if they do slaughter us, then who will the magical pixie girls have to stand back-to-back with on movie posters, tugging on our neckties?

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/84 "2015-01-14T13:33:20Z")

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> [@Jake\_Jones](#):
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> I’ve done a public service for those who couldn’t stomach beyond the first 60 seconds of this video. Be prepared. As **The Second Stone** observed, this shit is deep, yo!
> 
> Quoted in full under Creative Commons license with attribution to Andy-Man:
> 
> It’s even more ridiculous when you put the words into print.

…Damn. That’s…

…Deep?

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/85 "2015-01-14T15:01:58Z")

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My cat’s breath smells like cat food.

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/86 "2015-01-14T15:12:11Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> Well, at least the OP stuck around for a few replies instead of an immediate duck-and-run.

Well he was a real man.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/87 "2015-01-14T15:12:45Z")

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> [@GrumpyBunny](#):
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> Muscley and in leather, no less!

[Relevant link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=h5VliEjyohM#t=67).

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**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/88 "2015-01-14T15:13:20Z")

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> [@The\_Observer](#):
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> You are correct, polking fun at men is considered fine, but that in itself is not the really the problem. It’s the manner in which society polks fun at men. Men are viewed as idiots, rapists, brutal beasts in need of castrating… and we are going down a dangerous path to say the least.

Idiots, rapists, brutal beasts in need of castrating should be led to the slaughter.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/89 "2015-01-14T15:35:21Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> And in the case of most MRA’s, it’s something they never encounter again.

I’m certainly not taking the side of the “MRAs”, but the whole idea that your sex life is the only thing that makes you a “real man” _is_ part of the problem that leaves guys like this feeling like they’ve been wronged by society.

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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/90 "2015-01-14T15:36:52Z")

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No.

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**Author:** ![Tuxie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ee59a6/32.png) [@Tuxie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuxie)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/91 "2015-01-14T16:03:18Z")

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OK, so after carefully stepping over this diarrhea river of an OP, I’m curious:

What makes some men so obsessed with this? I would think it would be the most disenfranchised groups of men- those from communities with extremely strict gender roles. In places like that, a guy that was a little ‘off’ would be under a lot of pressure to confirm. But very often these are just boring middle class white guys. People who probably have WAY more ability to be whatever they want compared to their female/gay/PoC counterparts.

It is ironic that, as a woman of color, the people complaining the loudest are those with ultimately the most power. I guess they can’t see it themselves, so any little thing that levels the playing field is seen as an attack on their way of life. Or maybe they were chronically insecure about their own masculinity, and never felt like they could fit into the whole Brawny Man role so they tried to find people to blame it on.

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**Author:** ![susanlinda823](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@susanlinda823](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susanlinda823)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/92 "2015-01-14T16:06:41Z")

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Oh that was terrible. I didnt even finish watching it.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/93 "2015-01-14T16:16:35Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> Well, at least the OP stuck around for a few replies instead of an immediate duck-and-run.

But you knew the join date before you clicked on the thread, right?

> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Beats the hell out of me. I flatter myself that I _know better_ than to read comments on youtube videos.

See, you’re a real man. Or wait, you’re just chicken. Damn, I can never get these gender roles right.

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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/94 "2015-01-14T16:18:24Z")

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> [@Tuxie](#):
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> OK, so after carefully stepping over this diarrhea river of an OP, I’m curious:
> 
> What makes some men so obsessed with this? I would think it would be the most disenfranchised groups of men- those from communities with extremely strict gender roles. In places like that, a guy that was a little ‘off’ would be under a lot of pressure to confirm. But very often these are just boring middle class white guys. People who probably have WAY more ability to be whatever they want compared to their female/gay/PoC counterparts.

two things, one from each side of the coin:

1. we’re (slowly) becoming less and less patriarchal a society, and some want to cling to the old ways where “boys could be boys” and women would just learn to put up with it.

2. there _is_ the popular meme of the last decade or so of men being bumbling, borderline useless fools (Homer Simpson or plenty of other “sitcom dads,” not to mention how much advertising relies on that concept.)

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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/95 "2015-01-14T16:36:31Z")

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> [@The\_Observer](#):
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> Masculinity has nothing to do with being a raging asshole, this does not need to be explained.
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> The fighting spirit is something that is an essential aspect of masculinity, without it, we would still be in the stone age. . .

No, you’re thinking of bronze. Without bronze, we’d still be in the Stone Age.

> [@The\_Observer](#):
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> You are correct, polking fun at men is considered fine, but that in itself is not the really the problem. It’s the manner in which society polks fun at men. Men are viewed as idiots, rapists, brutal beasts in need of castrating… and we are going down a dangerous path to say the least.

Damn polka dots, always polking fun.

> [@The\_Observer](#):
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> Level-headed, loving, bravery, honor, integrity, virtuous, strong, charismatic. Yes, femininity is something which is held in the deepest respect for me. It’s very close to my heart. I love feminine women more than words will allow.
> 
> This is why I can’t stand MRA’s. They never praise feminine women. They are deeply antagonistic towards women.

That’s because, according to the logic of your first sentence in the above quote, women are scatterbrained, bitchy, cowardly liars. No wonder you love us! One of us! One of us!

> [@GrumpyBunny](#):
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> I led fifteen men to the slaughter today. Told them it was a meeting.
> 
> MUA-hahahahahahahha! Our cunning plan is working!

_Shhhh_. Aww, dammit, now we have to come up with a new excuse. Emergency meeting at eleven!

> [@Trinopus](#):
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> Scratching, spitting, and laughing at fart jokes?

Hey. Women get mosquito bites, too.

> [@Bridget\_Burke](#):
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> But then he\* did\* duck & run.

I kept mis-reading “duck” every time this phrase has been used. 😃 One little letter. Onnnnnnnne little letter …

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/96 "2015-01-14T16:44:42Z")

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I’m very disappointed you all played too rough with the OP and broke him before the rest of us got a chance with the new toy. And I agree with whoever upthread noticed the incongruity of a paean to masculine men being read by that voice.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/97 "2015-01-14T17:08:08Z")

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> [@Tuxie](#):
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> OK, so after carefully stepping over this diarrhea river of an OP, I’m curious:
> 
> What makes some men so obsessed with this? I would think it would be the most disenfranchised groups of men- those from communities with extremely strict gender roles.

I think it is mostly guys who can’t get dates.

> [@](#):
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> It’s time to open your eyes to what you are…
> 
> You are the inventor  
> You are the builder  
> You are the engineer  
> You are the worker  
> You are the designer  
> You are the dreamer  
> You are the scientist  
> You are the warrior  
> You are the soldier  
> You are the defender against tyranny  
> You are the sportsman

I also open jars and kill the big bugs.

> [@](#):
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> Who taught you to hate yourself?  
> Who taught you that you are “privileged”?  
> Who taught you that you are stupid…  
> Useless…  
> Brutish…  
> And emotionally inferior?  
> Who taught you that you have a damaged Y chromosome?  
> Who taught you that you are inherently flawed?  
> Who taught you to be ashamed?

Cripes, you leave the toilet seat up _one time…_

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Ms\_Boods](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5e9695/32.png) [@Ms\_Boods](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ms_Boods)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/98 "2015-01-14T17:22:51Z")

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> [@The\_Observer](#):
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> You mangina,

Old Greg? Is that you?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/99 "2015-01-14T17:42:35Z")

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According to the OP, “masculine” means

> [@](#):
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> Somebody who has honor, courage, a fighting spirit, a protector, one who has a deep love for the feminine spirit. This need not be explained. Why do you ask questions you already know the answer to?

In which case, he or she need not worry. There are still plenty of people like that around, perhaps more than ever. [Here’s a list of them](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_feminists).

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-males-being-led-to-the-slaughter/709771/100 "2015-01-14T18:06:20Z")

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aaa I BET ANYONE ONE DRINK THAT I CAN PULL MORE HAIR OUT OF MY CHEST THAN ANYONE IN THIS BAR (umm, thread) IN ONE PULL!

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