# Are men in general actually worred about this? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [November 13, 2007, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-men-in-general-actually-worred-about-this/426276 "2007-11-13T19:28:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-men-in-general-actually-worred-about-this/426276/41 "2007-11-14T02:10:19Z")
The OP’s correspondent might also have lingering memories of a 1998 episode of _The Outer Limits_ titled “Lithia”. Keith David awakes from suspended animation to find a mid-21st-century world populated entirely by women. They’re not universally pleased about his arrival. ---
**Author:** ![PharmBoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/74df32/32.png) [@PharmBoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PharmBoy)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-men-in-general-actually-worred-about-this/426276/42 "2007-11-14T02:40:09Z")
No more than usual, we’ve been told we’re not needed for at least 35 years… ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-men-in-general-actually-worred-about-this/426276/43 "2007-11-14T03:01:27Z")
[QUOTE=Shagnasty] It gets ugly out there and I truly believe men generally like each other more than females do. [/quote] H.L. Mencken : “A misogynist is a man who hates women as much as women hate one another.” [QUOTE=Shagnasty] I am not sure where the idea of females being the kinder and gentler sex comes from. [/quote] A combination of men putting them on pedestals, the desire of women in general to be seen as nice, misogynists sneering at women as weak and soft, and feminist propaganda about how all nastiness is men’s fault, I think. [QUOTE=Shagnasty] An all female society would not be a nice and friendly place although I would be the last to sign up for an all male society either. [/QUOTE] My personal belief is that mixed sex organizations are superior. Each gender has it’s strong points and it’s flaws when taken as a group ( whether they are inborn or cultural doesn’t matter ). When mixed together, those strengths and weaknesses tend to cancel each other out to a degree; when concentrated in monosexual environment they amplify each other. ---
**Author:** ![Random](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@Random](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Random)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-men-in-general-actually-worred-about-this/426276/44 "2007-11-14T03:38:55Z")
[QUOTE=Cluricaun] No kidding, I thought the same thing. [/QUOTE] Me, too. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-men-in-general-actually-worred-about-this/426276/45 "2007-11-14T03:54:28Z")
If I didn’t have my husband around, who would scratch my back? And if he didn’t have me around, who would scratch his? Just this evening, he had me look at and remove a zit on the back of his neck. He sure wouldn’t ask just anyone to do that! ---
**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-men-in-general-actually-worred-about-this/426276/46 "2007-11-14T03:56:59Z")
[QUOTE=jjimm] I have been labouring under a misapprehension: I always thought your username was in reference to the famous feminist slogan “A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle.” [/QUOTE] Me too. How could it not be?! ---
**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-men-in-general-actually-worred-about-this/426276/47 "2007-11-14T04:47:38Z")
I can’t help thinking that the only men who would sincerely believe that are the ones who don’t accomplish anything more than sperm deposit in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-men-in-general-actually-worred-about-this/426276/48 "2007-11-14T05:47:37Z")
Rereading this thread, I’m reminded of a Discworld footnote that mentions an all female tribe that kidnaps men “for the purposes only men can serve.” The men don’t last long though; all that moving furniture and hauling things off the top shelf wears you down. ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-men-in-general-actually-worred-about-this/426276/49 "2007-11-14T06:02:56Z")
What, that women will choose the vomiting and general unpleasantness of pregnancy without even getting the sex first? A man would have to be spectacularly bad in bed to worry about that, I think. Far more troubling is the fact that, cloning or not, it’s apparently nigh-impossible for a woman to find a man with an ounce of self-esteem. > [@Der Trihs](#): > > Not really, except in a “what if some loonie future female genetic engineer decides that whipping up an anti-male virus is a good idea because of this ?” nightmare scenario. …O…k. We’ve learned a lot about you today, **Der Trihs**. Now tell me, how do you feel about your mother? > [@Shagnasty](#): > > I am not sure where the idea of females being the kinder and gentler sex comes from. An all female society would not be a nice and friendly place although I would be the last to sign up for an all male society either. See [Barbara Ehrenreich’s 2004 change of heart](http://www.alternet.org/story/18740/). ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-men-in-general-actually-worred-about-this/426276/50 "2007-11-14T06:04:53Z")
[QUOTE=fetus] …O…k. We’ve learned a lot about you today, **Der Trihs**. Now tell me, how do you feel about your mother? [/quote] She’s been dead for years. And that scenario was from a book, which is why it popped into my head. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-men-in-general-actually-worred-about-this/426276/51 "2007-11-14T09:19:42Z")
Frankly, I’m most disturbed by the notion that _certain information must be withheld from women, lest they become dangerous_. Who thinks like that? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-men-in-general-actually-worred-about-this/426276/52 "2007-11-14T09:55:30Z")
[QUOTE=Mangetout] Frankly, I’m most disturbed by the notion that _certain information must be withheld from women, lest they become dangerous_. Who thinks like that? [/QUOTE] Paranoid control freaks. ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-men-in-general-actually-worred-about-this/426276/53 "2007-11-14T12:21:32Z")
Haven’t lost any sleep over this looming threat ---
**Author:** ![tonedef](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f05b48/32.png) [@tonedef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tonedef)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-men-in-general-actually-worred-about-this/426276/54 "2007-11-14T12:53:13Z")
Shouldn’t women be worried about them being cloned and men wouldn’t need women? ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-men-in-general-actually-worred-about-this/426276/55 "2007-11-14T13:19:42Z")
[QUOTE=fetus] …O…k. We’ve learned a lot about you today, **Der Trihs**. Now tell me, how do you feel about your mother? [/QUOTE] Lord knows I’m hardly the man to line up alongside **Der** , but the search term you want for that virus thingy is “Y: The Last Man”. A kid your age should be better versed in contemporary comix culture. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-men-in-general-actually-worred-about-this/426276/56 "2007-11-14T14:03:46Z")
[QUOTE=tdn] I’d worry about this (or not) if the only reason women keep men around is for sperm. In my experience women find far more use from men as bored shopping companions, givers of flowers, and dress up dolls. If you’re a man who’s been married for ten years, what are you more likely to be doing on a Saturday night? a) Donating sperm b) Been dragged, against your will, through a mall? If you picked B, perhaps you look forward to cloning. [/QUOTE] I’ve been married more than ten years, and if _b_ happens, then _a_ is dang sure going to happen. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-men-in-general-actually-worred-about-this/426276/57 "2007-11-14T15:15:29Z")
Another reference to the virus thing, but from the other direction, is Herbert’s “The White Plague”, but of course that’s a story about a madman geneticist who creates a virus to kill all women so it doesn’t count. =P ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-men-in-general-actually-worred-about-this/426276/58 "2007-11-14T17:02:32Z")
[QUOTE=Zeriel] Another reference to the virus thing, but from the other direction, is Herbert’s “The White Plague”, but of course that’s a story about a madman geneticist who creates a virus to kill all women so it doesn’t count. =P [/QUOTE] More to the point, I suppose it counts less because the perp intended to kill all women in England, Ireland and Libya because he blamed those countries for the loss of his wife to an IRA bomb - not because all women are evil and dangerous, and the world would be better off without them. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-men-in-general-actually-worred-about-this/426276/59 "2007-11-14T18:01:23Z")
[QUOTE=Zeriel] Another reference to the virus thing, but from the other direction, is Herbert’s “The White Plague”, but of course that’s a story about a madman geneticist who creates a virus to kill all women so it doesn’t count. =P [/QUOTE] Except for a few female serial killers, I’m not sure how many cases there are of women killing men simply because they are men. The reverse is not entirely difficult to find. But maybe that’s just feminist propaganda! Closer to the OP, I’ve read some stories lately about using impoverished women as surrogates that are just a tad too close to Atwood’s _A Handmaid’s Tale_ for comfort. ETA Never heard of the book- Malacandra clears it up a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Toast\_Museum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90ced4/32.png) [@Toast\_Museum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toast_Museum)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-men-in-general-actually-worred-about-this/426276/60 "2007-11-14T19:00:59Z")
I think soon women won’t be necessary for cloning. Plunk your cell cluster into a sow and wait. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-men-in-general-actually-worred-about-this/426276.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-men-in-general-actually-worred-about-this/426276.md?page=4)