# Are Mods allowed to call members liars? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 26, 2006, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-mods-allowed-to-call-members-liars/366086 "2006-07-26T13:58:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2006, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-mods-allowed-to-call-members-liars/366086/41 "2006-07-26T16:07:08Z")
[QUOTE=Valteron] …You honestly believe that poster was complimenting me for using the word “bottless”?.. [/QUOTE] “Bootless” yes, “bottless” not so much. 😃 CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2006, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-mods-allowed-to-call-members-liars/366086/42 "2006-07-26T16:07:51Z")
> [@Valteron](#): > > if you want sympathy, look in the dictionary somewhere between “shit” and “syphylis”. [QUOTE=Valteron] Ever hear of “sarcasm”, Uvula? You will find it in the dictionary somewhere between “sap” and “stupid”. [/QUOTE] Hey, can I play the Dictionary Game, too? I found “Valteron” somewhere between “vacuous” and “vapid”! Some fun, huh? ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2006, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-mods-allowed-to-call-members-liars/366086/43 "2006-07-26T16:08:16Z")
I can’t believe this has to be suggested to someone with a member start date of april of this year…but you seriously sound like you need a break from the boards. We all get that you’re unhappy with your life right now, but I would encourage you to take some time away from here and put some effort into finding professional help that works for you. Not every therapist is right for every person, you have to try out a few and find one that you click with. I didn’t like the first couple I went to, it’s no big you move on. If you think you’re the only one around here that has dealt with thoughts of suicide, severe depression, retirement anxiety or any other of your worries you are seriously mistaken. The suggestions to get help are not made from a position of ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![Valteron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f17d59/32.png) [@Valteron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valteron)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2006, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-mods-allowed-to-call-members-liars/366086/44 "2006-07-26T16:10:57Z")
[QUOTE=Left Hand of Dorkness] It’s subtler than that. The poster may have been insulting you. But he wasn’t insulting you for using “bootless”; he was suggesting that your usage of this arcane word amused and entertained him. He may have been implying that this was the only noteworthy aspect of your post, which is an insult; he may also, by suggesting that its use immeasurably increased your stature, have been implying that your stature was very low to begin with. What he was almost certainly NOT doing, however, was mocking you for using big words. Had he been doing so, he would not have used “stature” and “immeasurably” in his post. He may not have been insulting you: he may just have been amused and pleased by reading the word “bootless,” and not had anything else to say. In any case, your reaction was off-the-mark and over-the-top and arrogant. Do not do yourself the honor of thinking you’ve got the most advanced vocabulary on this forum. If you’re not clear why, look up “hubris”: you’ll find it in the dictionary somewhere between “horse’s ass” and “humiliated.” Daniel [/QUOTE] Oh, cut the crap, Daniel. He was implying that I was being pretentious for using a word that is slightly unusual like “bootless”. He was implying that I was showing off. It was pure sarcasm, not a compliment, and that is what I told the person who said I did not take “compliments” well. ---
**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2006, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-mods-allowed-to-call-members-liars/366086/45 "2006-07-26T16:15:55Z")
[QUOTE=Valteron] Oh, cut the crap, Daniel. He was implying that I was being pretentious for using a word that is slightly unusual like “bootless”. He was implying that I was showing off. It was pure sarcasm, not a compliment, and that is what I told the person who said I did not take “compliments” well. [/QUOTE] You’d think a mindreader wouldn’t be quite so depressed. Use your powers for good! ---
**Author:** ![Dante](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dante/32/9673_2.png) [@Dante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2006, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-mods-allowed-to-call-members-liars/366086/46 "2006-07-26T16:20:38Z")
I’m pretty sure **Valteron** is going to go down in flames shouting “SERENITY NOW!” any moment… ---
**Author:** ![Siege](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@Siege](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siege)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2006, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-mods-allowed-to-call-members-liars/366086/47 "2006-07-26T16:21:15Z")
**Valteron** , one thing about this board is people around here love the English language and the range of words it gives us to choose from. I’m rather fond of “bootless”, myself. Whether you choose to believe it or not is up to you, but from what I’ve seen of **Spectre of Pithecanthropus** , I really do believe he was trying to pay you a compliment. Around here, it’s a perfectly reasonable response. Here’s another bit of information. You say you’re too stupid to post a link. From what I’ve seen of you, I have a hard time believing that. (To make it clear, I’m not insulting you or calling you a liar; if anything, I’m trying to compliment you. Next time you reply to a thread by clicking on the button marked “Post Reply”, tak a look at the row of icons (pictures) below where the boxes marked [Font] and [size]. Under the arrow in the Size box there’s an icon with what’s supposed to be a globe and a chain. It’s the the 5th from the right if you prefer to count. If you click on that icon, it will pull up a box which asks you what you want the text of your link to contain, then another box asking you for the website you want to link to. Since I hate retyping long hyperlinks, especially the ones we use to link to threads around here, I usually just copy and paste the website from another window. I could do it manually, but it’s not worth the hassle. ---
**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2006, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-mods-allowed-to-call-members-liars/366086/48 "2006-07-26T16:28:16Z")
Somebody needs to find their happy place. Seriously, while the world may very well actually be out to get you, every member of this board is not. There’s plenty of snark for everyone, **Valteron** , no need to go looking under rocks for it. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2006, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-mods-allowed-to-call-members-liars/366086/49 "2006-07-26T16:33:11Z")
Since this thread isn’t _specifically_ about suicide, would it be all right for me to go ahead and encourage **Valteron** to jump? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2006, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-mods-allowed-to-call-members-liars/366086/50 "2006-07-26T16:36:20Z")
Hmm, he’s transferred an obsession with suicide to an obsession with arguing. I’ll just put this in the SDMB “win” column. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2006, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-mods-allowed-to-call-members-liars/366086/51 "2006-07-26T16:37:49Z")
I’ve started and deleted several replies to this (and the other) thread. It’s starting to feel like DNFTT territory. Isn’t the same thing happening in this thread as in the previous one? Isn’t it time to move on? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2006, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-mods-allowed-to-call-members-liars/366086/52 "2006-07-26T16:38:02Z")
[QUOTE=Valteron] Oh, cut the crap, Daniel. He was implying that I was being pretentious for using a word that is slightly unusual like “bootless”. He was implying that I was showing off. It was pure sarcasm, not a compliment, and that is what I told the person who said I did not take “compliments” well. [/QUOTE] Silly man. He used the words “stature” and “immeasurably” in his post. These are words that would not be used by someone mocking you for being pretentious. If he wanted to use words that themselves mocked pretention, he could have said, “‘Struth, good sirrah, your eminence is distended beyond all antecedent transpirations by your application of the term ‘bootless’!” This is a good place to practice looking sheepish while you apologize. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2006, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-mods-allowed-to-call-members-liars/366086/53 "2006-07-26T16:57:04Z")
> [@](#): > > Oh, cut the crap, Daniel. He was implying that I was being pretentious for using a word that is slightly unusual like “bootless”. He was implying that I was showing off. It was pure sarcasm, not a compliment, and that is what I told the person who said I did not take “compliments” well. How on earth could you possibly know what he was implying, or what he was intending. Several people have weighed in to say that ,yes, as a matter of fact they _did_ think he was paying you a compliment, which is how I read the comment as well. Why do you think you are better qualified to interpret his comment than the rest of us? As far as I can tell, you take offense when none may have been meant, and then you insist on your interpretation as the correct one after people point out a possible alternate intent. And you are rude in your insistence that you are right (i.e., “cut the crap, Daniel”). These are all unattactive behaviors. I don’t think you need to go to a psychologist to figure out that your relations with others may be significantly improved by stopping them. You are not required to bring an attitude of unrelenting bitter criticism to your judgment of yourself, the friendly woman in art class who had the temerity to bring her supplies in a macrame bag, or the members of this Board. So you might want to dial down the hostility, m’kay? ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2006, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-mods-allowed-to-call-members-liars/366086/54 "2006-07-26T17:06:19Z")
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers] Hmm, he’s transferred an obsession with suicide to an obsession with arguing. **I’ll just put this in the SDMB “win” column**. [/QUOTE] Actually, I’d say this change in obsessions has not served the fight against ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2006, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-mods-allowed-to-call-members-liars/366086/55 "2006-07-26T17:11:39Z")
[QUOTE=OneCentStamp] Actually, I’d say this change in obsessions has not served the fight against ignorance. [/QUOTE] No, but it means he’s more likely to keep squabbling and quarreling and find himself unable to resist coughing up another $15 to renew, year after year, as we become his addiction. If he just kills himself, what good does that do _us_? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2006, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-mods-allowed-to-call-members-liars/366086/56 "2006-07-26T17:21:15Z")
[QUOTE=Valteron] Which of these three options do you suppose he meant, contrapuntal? [/QUOTE] It really doesn’t matter. He did not call you a liar. He may have thought it. He may have meant it. He did not say it. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2006, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-mods-allowed-to-call-members-liars/366086/57 "2006-07-26T17:54:04Z")
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal] It really doesn’t matter. He did not call you a liar. He may have thought it. He may have meant it. He did not say it. [/QUOTE] Eh, close enough. No need to bandy technicalities – it was my stated opinion that **Valteron** was probably not telling the truth, so it’s not unreasonable for him to say I was calling him a liar. If it helps (and I expect it won’t), I wasn’t saying I didn’t believe him in an attempt to insult him. Rather, the post of his that I was replying to read to me more like an attempt to get people to stop recommending he see a doctor than honest exposition. If that was/is the case, I hope he’ll reconsider and see that people are recommending seeing a doctor for his sake and not as an insult. Considering how defensive and angry he’s been here, it’s hard for me to believe that he’s exhausted the capabilities of modern medicine, although maybe he just hasn’t found a good doctor. ---
**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2006, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-mods-allowed-to-call-members-liars/366086/58 "2006-07-26T18:00:01Z")
[QUOTE=Valteron] I remember, when I was a kid, a bunch of illiterate goons that used to hassle me in the schoolyard if they heard my friends and me using words that sounded a little too educated by their standards. [/QUOTE] Guess what - it looks like they’ve followed you here to the SDMB. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2006, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-mods-allowed-to-call-members-liars/366086/59 "2006-07-26T18:01:12Z")
[QUOTE=Giraffe] Eh, close enough. No need to bandy technicalities – it was my stated opinion that **Valteron** was probably not telling the truth, so it’s not unreasonable for him to say I was calling him a liar. [/QUOTE] Well, plus there’s that file footage of him with his pants on fire. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2006, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-mods-allowed-to-call-members-liars/366086/60 "2006-07-26T18:18:34Z")
[QUOTE=Aangelica] He strikes me as a man in dire need of a big old glass of Calm The Fuck Down, personally. [/QUOTE] Followed by a big old bowl of Get The Fuck Over Yourself. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-mods-allowed-to-call-members-liars/366086.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-mods-allowed-to-call-members-liars/366086.md?page=4)