# Are people crazy?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-people-crazy/773556>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 1, 2016, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-people-crazy/773556 "2016-12-01T21:07:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-people-crazy/773556/41 "2016-12-02T22:19:27Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Not the same thing. That hack phakes the phone being off. It never is “off”, so it can be accessed.
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> Until the batteries run down.

Pretty much the same thing. Do you _know_ that your phone is off?

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**Author:** ![Kaboodle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8edcca/32.png) [@Kaboodle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaboodle)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-people-crazy/773556/42 "2016-12-02T22:29:46Z")

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Well, there’s differing values for ‘off’ at least for old phones.

> [@Chimera's article](#):
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> But old phones may not actually turn off, even if they appear to be powered down. For example, Graham said many old “feature phones,” even when they were switched off, would have a baseband processor power up every 10 minutes or so to retrieve SMS messages, but not phone calls. “The moral of this is that just because you define the phone as ‘off’ doesn’t mean that it’s 100% completely ‘off’ all the time,” he said.

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**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-people-crazy/773556/43 "2016-12-03T00:57:30Z")

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I like [this cartoon’](http://tumblr.tastefullyoffensive.com/post/153961600903/pdlcomics-kloob#.WEIXKkcXtQ8)s take on the phenomenon. This devices have their limits, apparently…for now.

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-people-crazy/773556/44 "2016-12-03T03:32:35Z")

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Just another step closer to the singularity. Don’t fight the inevitable.

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