# Are posters now forbidden to imply rule violations in the Pit? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [September 4, 2014, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-posters-now-forbidden-to-imply-rule-violations-in-the-pit/697504 "2014-09-04T18:05:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-posters-now-forbidden-to-imply-rule-violations-in-the-pit/697504/61 "2014-09-08T14:26:31Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > No mockery, no nastiness, no button pushing. No insult intended. It never occurred to me that it might be read as such. In the context of the rest of your post, which was a personal attack and a rather nasty one, it was the obvious reading. If it never occurred to you, I suggest that you be more careful in composing your posts. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-posters-now-forbidden-to-imply-rule-violations-in-the-pit/697504/62 "2014-09-08T14:57:38Z")
> [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](#): > > And a lot of it is context. Calling “Peter Morris” simply “Peter” is probably a simple, friendly shortening. If the P were lower case, however, it could well be insulting. And what about “Morris” as Fenris did in post #50? > [@](#): > > Depends on context, as do most things. In this case, with the use of italics to call attention to it, and with the context that followed, it very clearly wasn’t a simple typo, nor was it a friendly shortening, it was intended as an insult and was read that way. It was not intended as an insult, and there is no way it should be read as such. Your accusation above was : “You made a joke of another poster’s name, deliberately twisting it in a nasty way.” Lets take that bit by bit _“You made a joke of another poster’s name”_ I did not. His username is a pun already. He has chosen a username that IS a joke. He is the one making a joke of his name. \*"deliberately twisting it " \* Not remotely. Noting that his name sounds like sarcasm is not a twist. It is his actual, intended meaning. _“In a nasty way”_ No nastiness intended. How can it be nasty to underline his own joke? Let’s go to the dictionary for the definition of insult. [Dictionary.co](http://Dictionary.co)[http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/insult](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/insult)m defines it thus: 1. to treat or speak to insolently or with contemptuous rudeness; affront. 2. to affect as an affront; offend or demean. The name Czarcasm is already a deliberate double meaning. Underlining the meaning is not insolent, is not contemptuous, is not rude, and would not offend him. Hence no insult. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-posters-now-forbidden-to-imply-rule-violations-in-the-pit/697504/63 "2014-09-08T15:04:38Z")
You’re grasping at straws. The whole post was subject to a warning. Whether you meant a single word as an insult or not is irrelevant to the warning. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-posters-now-forbidden-to-imply-rule-violations-in-the-pit/697504/64 "2014-09-08T16:03:21Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > And what about “Morris” as Fenris did in post #50? Bwah? Using your last name is an insult? How? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-posters-now-forbidden-to-imply-rule-violations-in-the-pit/697504/65 "2014-09-08T16:07:19Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > Bwah? Using your last name is an insult? How? Maybe he thinks you’re comparing him to [a cat](http://www.catster.com/files/post_images/78b005f9a5ff92328affac39c6d99ab4.jpg).🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-posters-now-forbidden-to-imply-rule-violations-in-the-pit/697504/66 "2014-09-08T17:11:50Z")
So, if that wasn’t meant to be insulting, what was it meant to be, **Peter**? What point were you trying to communicate by spelling **Czarcasm** ’s name “Sarcasm?” ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-posters-now-forbidden-to-imply-rule-violations-in-the-pit/697504/67 "2014-09-08T17:55:52Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Oh, aqnd what about your own post? Personally, I find your use of my surname without “Mr” to be pretty rude in itself. > [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > And what about “Morris” as Fenris did in post #50? In the words of the dearly departed Joan Rivers: “OH, GROW UP!” ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-posters-now-forbidden-to-imply-rule-violations-in-the-pit/697504/68 "2014-09-08T18:32:20Z")
[QUOTE=Peter Morris] Personally, I find your use of my surname without “Mr” to be pretty rude in itself." [/QUOTE] Ah-ha. I missed this. Apparently the part that was ghastly-insulting was not addressing Morris as “Mr”. But [you’re the guy who got mad when the word “Woo” was used to describe a crackpot and claimed it was “hate speech”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=567685) and [you’re the guy who didn’t (and maybe doesn’t) get that a moderator saying you’re being a jerk isn’t an insult](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=584439). So…we clearly share different ideas of what insults are. Which would also explain why you’re having trouble with Sarcasm =! Czarcasm. ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-posters-now-forbidden-to-imply-rule-violations-in-the-pit/697504/69 "2014-09-08T19:03:46Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > Ah-ha. I missed this. Apparently the part that was ghastly-insulting was not addressing Morris as “Mr”. > > But [you’re the guy who got mad when the word “Woo” was used to describe a crackpot and claimed it was “hate speech”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=567685) and [you’re the guy who didn’t (and maybe doesn’t) get that a moderator saying you’re being a jerk isn’t an insult](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=584439). So…we clearly share different ideas of what insults are. > > Which would also explain why you’re having trouble with Sarcasm =! Czarcasm. This is getting close to what Peter Morris did – attack the poster and not the post. That’s not allowed in About This Message Board and you shouldn’t be doing this. Interrogating someone on their views is also not really what About This Message Board is all about, or shouldn’t be, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-posters-now-forbidden-to-imply-rule-violations-in-the-pit/697504/70 "2014-09-08T23:19:46Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > So, if that wasn’t meant to be insulting, what was it meant to be, **Peter**? What point were you trying to communicate by spelling **Czarcasm** ’s name “Sarcasm?” It’s kind of obvious, really. The thread was about a post that \*\*Czarcasm \*\*made. Most people, including moderators, saw it as having a nasty meaning, but Czarcasm was trying to claim a totally different and innocent one. My message pointed to his posting history simply as evidence that the nasty interpretation is the correct one. And part of that was pointing to his username. His posts frequently have a sarcastic tone. His chosen username reflects his posting style. The fact that his name is a pun on Sarcasm, that provides a big clue to his meaning in the post under discussion. Clear? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-posters-now-forbidden-to-imply-rule-violations-in-the-pit/697504/71 "2014-09-08T23:45:37Z")
> [@TubaDiva](#): > > This is getting close to what Peter Morris did – attack the poster and not the post. On the contrary, it is a long way beyond what I did. I made no attack on Czarcasm, I simply made a factual comment about his posting history that was directly relevant to the matter being discussed. It was not an attack at all. Fenris, however, hates me because I express contempt for one of his idols. It’s actually been a few years since his last attack, but he still is harbouring a grudge. Its a nasty little attack, that has nothing to do with the matter. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2014, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-posters-now-forbidden-to-imply-rule-violations-in-the-pit/697504/72 "2014-09-09T00:03:20Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Fenris, however, hates me because I express contempt for one of his idols. It’s actually been a few years since his last attack, but he still is harbouring a grudge. Its a nasty little attack, that has nothing to do with the matter. So you throw in this interpretation of current events so that curious readers will go search out what you are talking about–thus bringing the dormant conflict back to the fore for further replay. That was not well thought out. = = = I would suggest that EVERYONE let this particular claim simply wither for lack of attention rather than reviving a long-dead feud. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2014, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-posters-now-forbidden-to-imply-rule-violations-in-the-pit/697504/73 "2014-09-09T00:16:35Z")
Fenris is the one trying to ressurrect it. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2014, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-posters-now-forbidden-to-imply-rule-violations-in-the-pit/697504/74 "2014-09-09T00:57:01Z")
But Mommy!! He poked me first!! ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2014, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-posters-now-forbidden-to-imply-rule-violations-in-the-pit/697504/75 "2014-09-09T01:05:13Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Fenris, however, hates me because I express contempt for one of his idols. Cite that you expressed contempt about Meatloaf. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2014, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-posters-now-forbidden-to-imply-rule-violations-in-the-pit/697504/76 "2014-09-09T01:18:10Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Cite that you expressed contempt about Meatloaf. 😕 Abba. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2014, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-posters-now-forbidden-to-imply-rule-violations-in-the-pit/697504/77 "2014-09-09T01:20:21Z")
> [@faithfool](#): > > Abba. Leave Dancing Queen outa this. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2014, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-posters-now-forbidden-to-imply-rule-violations-in-the-pit/697504/78 "2014-09-09T01:41:55Z")
Given the last 30-40 posts, this thread has gone past it’s “use by” date. Closed. **samclem** , moderator. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-posters-now-forbidden-to-imply-rule-violations-in-the-pit/697504.md?page=3)