# Are prostitutes that cater to fetishes like bill Cosbys common **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [July 8, 2015, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-prostitutes-that-cater-to-fetishes-like-bill-cosbys-common/724595 "2015-07-08T17:17:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2015, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-prostitutes-that-cater-to-fetishes-like-bill-cosbys-common/724595/21 "2015-07-09T17:51:40Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#): > > How exactly does that happen, if I may be so bold as to ask? Once I needed pens for my office. Someone suggested I take advantage of the excellent prices at pen island dot com. Man, was I surprised! ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-prostitutes-that-cater-to-fetishes-like-bill-cosbys-common/724595/22 "2015-07-10T01:07:19Z")
> [@Habeed](#): > > Got a cite for that? As I saw in another blog on human psych, saying that is like saying lack of money is not a cause of bank robberies. Yes, it’s true that not all bank robbers need the money, and not all rapists lack the sex. Actually, since it is the underlying assumption of the OP, I’m going to demand a cite for the proposition that rapists as a rule lack the opportunity for non-coercive sex. ---
**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-prostitutes-that-cater-to-fetishes-like-bill-cosbys-common/724595/23 "2015-07-10T02:11:51Z")
> [@Habeed](#): > > Got a cite for that? As I saw in another blog on human psych, saying that is like saying lack of money is not a cause of bank robberies. Yes, it’s true that not all bank robbers need the money, and not all rapists lack the sex. Here’s the thing, though. Once you’ve robbed the bank, the money is exactly the same as any other money. Nobody has a preference for stolen money. Rape is pretty darn different than sex with a consenting and enthusiastic partner. Sex with someone drugged to unconsciousness is so different than normal sex that I think most guys would find it unappealing. But some people specifically search out rape, and prefer it over normal sex. It’s not just about being horny, it’s about being specifically sexually gratified by violating people. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-prostitutes-that-cater-to-fetishes-like-bill-cosbys-common/724595/24 "2015-07-10T02:28:47Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Isn’t this a rather old-fashioned reaction? “He’s so handsome and/or rich, he can’t possibly be a rapist! He would have women falling over themselves to sleep with him!” > > Didn’t we learn a long, long time ago that lack of sex is not the cause of rape? When did I say he couldn’t be a rapist? I never said that. My question was do escorts cater to people who have a fetish for sex with unconscious people. Most people have fetishes that would be traumatic to an unwilling partner, but most people don’t act on them unless they have a willing partner. Either Cosby got off on the power of violating someone or he has a fetish for screwing unconscious women and didn’t care if he was hurting them. Either way, it doesn’t answer my question about whether escorts offer those kinds of services. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-prostitutes-that-cater-to-fetishes-like-bill-cosbys-common/724595/25 "2015-07-10T03:16:51Z")
It doesn’t matter really if he’s got a fetish, he’s also a rapist (assuming the claims are true). So he’s either a rapist or a rapist with a fetish, and I don’t care about the fetish part. I suppose there are prostitutes who’d be willing to do a threesome where their friend stayed conscious. Somewhere you can find one that will do almost anything for the right price. But nothing would keep the prostitutes quiet if they wanted to extort some money from him or get their 15 minutes, not to mention all the people he’d have to talk in order to find a prostitute like that. So instead he rapes young ambitious women who for several reasons don’t want to come forward. ---
**Author:** ![BobArrgh](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobarrgh/32/2881_2.png) [@BobArrgh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobArrgh)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-prostitutes-that-cater-to-fetishes-like-bill-cosbys-common/724595/26 "2015-07-10T14:48:20Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Once I needed pens for my office. Someone suggested I take advantage of the excellent prices at pen island dot com. Man, was I surprised! I see what you did there. _golf clap_ ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-prostitutes-that-cater-to-fetishes-like-bill-cosbys-common/724595/27 "2015-07-10T15:06:30Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > He gave them quaaludes because he wanted to have sex with those specific women, and didn’t want to bother with getting consent from them. Or that he felt entitled to have sex with them and their consent wasn’t an issue. ---
**Author:** ![Habeed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a587f6/32.png) [@Habeed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Habeed)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-prostitutes-that-cater-to-fetishes-like-bill-cosbys-common/724595/28 "2015-07-10T16:17:33Z")
Isn’t BDSM basically what he wanted, with Cosby as the dominant partner? Why didn’t he just keep a never ending supply of BDSM submissive girls, all attractive and his preferred body type, parading into his bedroom… This is I think why people found this so hard to understand. Whether the girls were mistresses/escorts he paid directly a small fee to, or girls who were attracted to his charm and also hoping he’d eventually marry them (and therefore be entitled to half of many millions of dollars, paying for sex upfront is much cheaper…), he’d never run out. Why would he risk some terrible crime, instead? What if a woman overdosed on the drugs and died? What if he were caught in the act? Many of the women described finding him in his bathrobe and themselves undressed, why didn’t they have a rape kit collected? So you have a person who had a trivially available alternative, risking prison time instead. Hard to see why he’d do that - so people have been reluctant to believe the accusers. For that matter, didn’t he give the women muscle relaxants…Most men complain if a woman is too loose. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-prostitutes-that-cater-to-fetishes-like-bill-cosbys-common/724595/29 "2015-07-10T16:42:51Z")
> [@Gary\_T](#): > > I can’t see anybody letting someone (generally a stranger) drug them and do [whatever] with their unconscious body. How fucking stupid would you have to be to even consider it? Some of the prostitutes I’ve worked with (right here on the streets of KCMO, as it happens) are just that desperate that if a John offered them enough money, they would do it. Upside is, they make a lot of money. Downside is, they go to sleep and don’t have to wake up to their drug addiction, HIV+ status, homelessness…you see. ---
**Author:** ![Hershele\_Ostropoler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e47c2d/32.png) [@Hershele\_Ostropoler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hershele_Ostropoler)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2015, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-prostitutes-that-cater-to-fetishes-like-bill-cosbys-common/724595/30 "2015-07-11T23:51:06Z")
> [@Habeed](#): > > Any woman he dates that isn’t DTF, he can just dump her and find another. My guess – though, not being a rapist myself, I can but speculate – is that he didn’t want to have sex with lots of women, he wanted to have sex with these women. And as a Famous Person, he figured they’d say yes sooner or later, he was just saving time. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2015, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-prostitutes-that-cater-to-fetishes-like-bill-cosbys-common/724595/31 "2015-07-12T00:52:02Z")
> [@Habeed](#): > > Got a cite for that? As I saw in another blog on human psych, saying that is like saying lack of money is not a cause of bank robberies. Yes, it’s true that not all bank robbers need the money, and not all rapists lack the sex. I don’t think we need a cite to show that Cosby, a wealthy, attractive, powerful, suave man, could get consensual sex. Maybe not with every woman who caught his fancy. But there’s zero chance that he was frustrated because he couldn’t get any. I’m going to take Una Perrson’s answer as definitive to the op’s question, though. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2015, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-prostitutes-that-cater-to-fetishes-like-bill-cosbys-common/724595/32 "2015-07-12T02:13:43Z")
> [@Habeed](#): > > Isn’t BDSM basically what he wanted, with Cosby as the dominant partner? Why didn’t he just keep a never ending supply of BDSM submissive girls, all attractive and his preferred body type, parading into his bedroom… > > This is I think why people found this so hard to understand. Whether the girls were mistresses/escorts he paid directly a small fee to, or girls who were attracted to his charm and also hoping he’d eventually marry them (and therefore be entitled to half of many millions of dollars, paying for sex upfront is much cheaper…), he’d never run out. > > Why would he risk some terrible crime, instead? What if a woman overdosed on the drugs and died? What if he were caught in the act? Many of the women described finding him in his bathrobe and themselves undressed, why didn’t they have a rape kit collected? > > So you have a person who had a trivially available alternative, risking prison time instead. Hard to see why he’d do that - so people have been reluctant to believe the accusers. > > For that matter, didn’t he give the women muscle relaxants…Most men complain if a woman is too loose. …BDSM wasn’t what he basically wanted, so keeping a never ending supply of BDSM submissive girls, all attractive and his preferred body type, parading into his bedroom wasn’t a solution. And he risked this “terrible crime” because he could get away with it, as has been demonstrated by the fact that he has gotten away with it for decades. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-prostitutes-that-cater-to-fetishes-like-bill-cosbys-common/724595.md?page=1)