# Are psychopaths rampant in Chinese Communist Party?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [May 6, 2021, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-psychopaths-rampant-in-chinese-communist-party/941498 "2021-05-06T00:46:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-psychopaths-rampant-in-chinese-communist-party/941498/41 "2021-05-20T15:01:31Z")

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As linked above the giant Buddha statues are disappearing. And to compare life in China to any western country is ludicrous. China monitors the daily life in draconian ways.

Through their phones:

> **[Censorship, Surveillance and Profits: A Hard Bargain for Apple in China...](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/17/technology/apple-china-censorship-data.html)**
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> Apple built the world’s most valuable business on top of China. Now it has to answer to the Chinese government.

Through decisions in their personal lives:

> **[China's 'social credit' system ranks citizens and punishes them with...](https://www.businessinsider.com/china-social-credit-system-punishments-and-rewards-explained-2018-4)**
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> Chinese people are being introduced to a program that monitors their behavior, scores them, and doles out punishments and rewards.

Through spying:

> **[The spying game: China's global network](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-53329005)**
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> The latest controversy around Huawei has shone a spotlight on the murky world of Chinese espionage.

China is nothing at all like any Western nation-state.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-psychopaths-rampant-in-chinese-communist-party/941498/42 "2021-05-20T15:03:08Z")

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The statue has nothing to do with war. Guan Yu was a historical figure who fought to uphold the corrupt Han Dynasty. The statue reinforces Confucian values such as fealty to the state.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-psychopaths-rampant-in-chinese-communist-party/941498/43 "2021-05-20T15:37:04Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> As linked above the giant Buddha statues are disappearing

This is what I mean about ridiculous cherry-picking. This is among the most false statements it’s possible for a person to make, given that China has many of the world’s biggest Bhudda statues, including the #1, and there has been a massive boom as different provinces are [racing to build the biggest, or most impressive, Bhudda](https://www.sixthtone.com/news/1003089/buddha-mania-understanding-chinas-buddha-building-boom)

> [@madsircool](#):
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> And to compare life in China to any western country is ludicrous. China monitors the daily life in draconian ways.

I am a Westerner who has been living in China for 8 years. Day to day life is indeed just the same. And indeed I’ve broken lots of rules while I have been here. The Chinese government is not as godlike as people who’ve only seen headlines often imagine.

> [@madsircool](#):
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> The statue reinforces Confucian values such as fealty to the state.

Again, are you going to address the point that China has thousands of states, probably hundreds bigger than this one, of Bhuddas, poets and war memorials. Why don’t those “count” in terms of discerning the Chinese government’s will?

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-psychopaths-rampant-in-chinese-communist-party/941498/44 "2021-05-20T15:56:30Z")

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You understand the article you have linked is from a state sponsored travel agency? You are not going to find factual reporting about the linked issues inside of China. China has recently banned VPNs so its very difficult and dangerous for ordinary people to have access to banned points of view.

China actively tries to control international opinion through manipulated news. Here is an AP story reporting that China is trying to make Uyghers deny abuse through false interviews:

> **[Chinese authorities order video denials by Uyghurs of abuses](https://apnews.com/article/asia-pacific-technology-f6ffda9288b1671da741c07d8f4f8afc)**
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> URUMQI, China (AP) — China has highlighted an unlikely series of videos this year in which Uyghur men and women deny U.S. charges that Beijing is committing human rights violations against their ethnic group.

"But the text obtained by AP is the first concrete confirmation that the videos are anything but grassroots. Sent in January to government offices in the northern city of Karamay, the text told each office to find one Uyghur fluent in Mandarin to film a one-minute video in response to Pompeo’s “anti-China remarks.”

“Express a clear position on Pompeo’s remarks, for example: I firmly oppose Pompeo’s anti-Chinese remarks, and I am very angry about them,” the text said. “Express your feelings of loving the party, the country and Xinjiang (I am Chinese, I love my motherland, I am happy at work and in life, and so on).”"

China is using cutting edge technology to control its population. Westerners should be paying attention to this and make sure it doesnt creep its way across the seas.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-psychopaths-rampant-in-chinese-communist-party/941498/45 "2021-05-20T16:24:24Z")

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Wow way to deflect from the actual points being put to you.

Yes, what’s happening in Xinjiang is terrible. I already said that (unprompted, in fact).

Now, back on topic. Do you concede that “The Bhuddas are disappearing” is a laughably false statement based on a cherry pick of googling for statues being demolished?

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