Are Root Canals Really Toxic??

Is it possible you guys are counting “injections” differently? When I had my root canal, it was just one or two series of injections, of maybe three or four injection points each. (This one sucked, as some of the lidocaine went down my throat and numbed it, which was very disconcerting as the inability to feel yourself swallowing felt very much like choking to me. I remained quiet, but I had to convince myself through the whole procedure that I was breathing. Really, really sucked. The root canal itself? Absolutely painless. No worse than a cavity fill.)

When I had one of my wisdom teeth pulled, I let my dental surgeon know about the root canal procedure, and he did a good job in not numbing my throat. Which was awesome because I really didn’t want to go through that again. However, it took about 4 rounds of injections over a 45-minute period (and he used a couple of different drugs–I think benzocaine was one of them) and towards the end each shot had 5 or 6 injection points. So, if I counted each injection point, that was around 15-20 “shots.” If I just counted each time he filled up the needles, maybe 4 injections. I’ve never had issues before with getting numbed, and it just seemed to be one very fine spot that wasn’t numbing. What a pain-in-the-ass that procedure was.

my assumption is that he was poked in 20 places and a little bit injected in each spot not given 20 carpules of anesthetic. Twenty carpules with epinephrine would be an overdose. That much anesthetic absorbed into the bloodstream could lead to severe CNS depression, liver issues and problems at the injection site due to multiple needle sticks and possible tissue necrosis due to vasoconstriction and therefore loss of oxygen to the tissues.

I think you’re right-20 surface pricks instead of full injections makes much more sense.

Is it possible he waited too long to have the root canal done? And he did say that this particular dentist also was against root canals. And some teeth are just too far gone to save.

This would be my guess - and his ‘hatred’ of them stems from not getting the first one completed properly. The dentist wsa likely not ‘against’ doing root canals in general, but in this specific case due to the severity of the infection/issues/etc.

He “stuck me” 20-40 times. Who knows how many times. It was a ton though. So this is fairly normal then? That makes me feel better :slight_smile:

My tooth first broke off over a year and a half ago. I went to the dentist and he said I had severe decay and needed a root canal asap. Well the pain started back then and I found ways to control the pain. Something known as oil pulling works wonders for combating tooth pain. It’s the only thing I could find that works. I did this off and on for the next year and a half. But then the pain took over just a few weeks ago and had to do this root canal.

My gum is still swollen around the root canal with blood trapped under the gum. Called my dentist and he says this could be normal and for me to come in on Monday. It better be freaking normal. I don’t want to see these dentist anymore.

Yea my root canal was very painful. I have had root canals in the past and fillings with no pain. This tooth was just too far gone. Don’t ever let that happen guys. I can tell you that after all of those shots and to still have pain is a bad feeling. After all those shots just when I put my hand on my tooth I could still feel pain. How do you think the drilling felt? I had to squeeze my chair handles and tense all of my muscles just to get through that root canal. It sucked. So now I see where the root canal horror stories come from. It really can be a painful experience.

Wait. You broke a tooth and were told you needed treatment, but you ignored this for a year and a half? Is that what you’re saying?

Also: Oil pulling is just washing your mouth with oil. Mildly beneficial at best. Certainly not a magical cure for everything.

ineedthetruth, for about the third time from me (a dentist) and a couple other times from folks who looked it up. NO, BEING STUCK 20 OR MORE TIMES IS NOT NORMAL.

Waiting a year and a half for treatment is stupid. I’m suprised the tooth is still restorable. If the tooth is “too far gone”, how is your dentist going to save it. If it is fixable then it isn’t “too far gone”.

My dentist has injected me multiple times in the past for fillings etc - I wouldn’t say it was 20 times, but it might have been as many as 10 - or maybe it only felt like it - the syringe contraption he used seemed to have a sort of ratchet action - maybe he was injecting tiny amounts repeatedly, leaving time for the anaesthetic to disperse into the tissue, rather than just squirting it in all at once and risking it leaking back out.

And now your story has stretched to up to 40 times? Rather than spending time here trying to make your dental visit into a script for a horror movie, why don’t you respond to some of the people that have bothered to do research on your behalf?

That would be a ligmajet does just what you say and would normally be used 2 to 6 times per tooth. Usually one uses it to numb a tooth without doing a block(procedure that numbs a larger area) if needing less anesthesia. Normally for a RCT one would do a block or at least a full infiltration. If doing multiple teeth I would never use it as my anesthetic delivery method of choice.

Guys do you think root canals cause auto immune conditions or make them worse if you have them? I am curious about this. I have seen many websites/doctors who claim this. What are your thoughts?

Weren’t you going to provide some evidence for these claims, sometime?

There are doctors who make this claim. Do you really think the NDA is going to fund studies? Big deal no official studies have been done to prove root canals are dangerous. Who is going to fund these studies? The NDA would keep a lid on this because root canals are BIG business.

There are many reputable dentist who know that root canals are dangerous. Where are the studies that prove root canals are safe? Either way studies will not prove anything here. You can google images and see infected root canals after they are pulled. X rays dont always pick up infections. How can you prove that root canals cause someones auto immune condition 4 years down the road?

The burden of proof is on you right now. You’re on a board dedicated to fighting ignorance, and you’re arguing from a position of ignorance, making broad claims with no actual proof.

If you are unable to see why this is not going anywhere with us, then you are on the wrong board.

I understand what you are saying but new theories are proven every day. Proof means nothing right now. What’s not proven today will be proven tomorrow. All im saying is just because it’s not proven yet does not mean it will not be proven.

I think judging from all of the data out there it’s very logical to consider the threat that root canals are indeed dangerous. Of course I could be wrong but it makes a lot of sense to me. You cannot fully clean out the canals no matter what you do. Your nerve is cut and you don’t feel the pain or “warning” you normally would. I don’t know…I think it’s a real concern.

Except for the fact (that keeps getting pointed out over and over and over) that you keep claiming there is all this evidence, you just can’t provide any.

That’s not “logical”. It’s called wishful thinking. Justify it to yourself however you want (obviously you have). It doesn’t make your conclusion worth anything.

You have a right to an opinion. It doesn’t mean your opinion makes any damned sense.

It’s worse - he’s claiming there’s loads of evidence, and at the same time, claiming that evidence is meaningless.

And the alternative is what? Hiding in a corner and washing your mouth out with oil? How’s does that work out?

Even if there was some substance to your fears, a warning is useless unless it is accompanied by advice on how to avoid the threat.