# Are scalar weapons for real?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [August 4, 2003, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879 "2003-08-04T12:50:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![bbeaty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c0e974/32.png) [@bbeaty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bbeaty)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2003, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/21 "2003-08-05T11:16:26Z")

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Nikky Tesla’s [own version](http://www.netsense.net/tesla/questions.html). From the 1930s!

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2003, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/22 "2003-08-05T11:35:10Z")

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> \*Originally posted by bbeaty \*  
> \*\*Nikky Tesla’s [own version](http://www.netsense.net/tesla/questions.html). From the 1930s! \*\*

Does it come with its own Martian Tripod War Machine?

I assume Orson Welles & the Mercury Theatre Player are extra.

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**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2003, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/23 "2003-08-05T12:49:38Z")

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Ferchissake. They’re 1920’s style “Death Rays”.

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**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2003, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/24 "2003-08-05T12:56:04Z")

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Ferchissake. They’re 1920’s style “Death Rays”.

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**Author:** ![Achilles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dc4da7/32.png) [@Achilles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achilles)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2003, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/25 "2003-08-05T13:35:47Z")

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It’s like a “Rappin’ Ronnie Regan” thread. Would everyone chill the fuck out with their multiple posts ?

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**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2003, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/26 "2003-08-05T13:38:05Z")

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Did they even have WMD in the 1920’s?

Why is it that everything is a WMD now?

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**Author:** ![SkyBum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@SkyBum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkyBum)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2003, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/27 "2003-08-05T13:46:45Z")

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Did I just hear someone say “1920’s style Death Ray’s”?

Nah, probably just imagining things.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2003, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/28 "2003-08-05T14:15:36Z")

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> 1920’s Style Death Days

Band Name!

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**Author:** ![inertia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d07c76/32.png) [@inertia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/inertia)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2003, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/29 "2003-08-05T15:27:23Z")

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The US military used EMP weapons in Bosnia. Knocked out the power grid with minimal physical damage. Those were bombs thought, not projectile weapons.

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**Author:** ![zhlf210](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c4cdca/32.png) [@zhlf210](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zhlf210)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2003, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/30 "2003-08-05T15:33:39Z")

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Hmm…I appreciate everyone’s responses, but the signal to noise ratio has been a little low…:rolleyes: Can anyone come up with anything more substantial? Or is this just fantasy? (Scalar weapons that is, not my wish for more substantial answers!)

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**Author:** ![Trigonal\_Planar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/0ea827/32.png) [@Trigonal\_Planar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trigonal_Planar)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2003, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/31 "2003-08-05T16:00:02Z")

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Yes, its a fantasy. “Scalar” energy is made up nonsense brought to you by free energy kooks everywhere.

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**Author:** ![kikkapoo\_joy\_juice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/85f322/32.png) [@kikkapoo\_joy\_juice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kikkapoo_joy_juice)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2003, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/32 "2003-08-05T17:39:16Z")

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I think it’s origin is in the valid concern that atomic bombs will screw up global communications, and especially that a bomb exploded over a country could screw up all their warheads at once.  
Not just the physical things blasted around, not just the heat and light, but magnetic interference, which could destroy all on-board megnetic bubble memory and make all our smart weapons stupid at once.

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**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2003, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/33 "2003-08-05T17:45:55Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ludovic \*  
> \*\*Band Name! \*\*

Too late. There’s already [The Death Ray Davies](http://www.deathraydavies.com/). 😃

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2003, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/34 "2003-08-05T17:58:39Z")

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This sounds to me like the sort of rays used to kill people a few years after the First World War, but largely before the Wall Street Crash. If only I could remember what they were called.

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**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2003, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/35 "2003-08-05T18:22:51Z")

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> \*Originally posted by inertia \*  
> The US military used EMP weapons in Bosnia. Knocked out the power grid with minimal physical damage. Those were _ **bombs thought** _, not projectile weapons.

_italics mine_

So it’s a telepathy weapons system?

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2003, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/36 "2003-08-05T19:35:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jjimm \*  
> \*\*This sounds to me like the sort of rays used to kill people a few years after the First World War, but largely before the Wall Street Crash. If only I could remember what they were called. \*\*

“Flapper Zappers.”

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2003, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/37 "2003-08-05T19:37:31Z")

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> \*Originally posted by kikkapoo joy juice \*  
> I think it’s origin is in the valid concern that atomic bombs will screw up global communications, and especially that a bomb exploded over a country could screw up all their warheads at once.  
> Not just the physical things blasted around, not just the heat and light, but magnetic interference, which could destroy all on-board megnetic bubble memory and make all our smart weapons stupid at once. \*\*

Course it’s kind of a moot point since the bomb pretty much destroys anything you would need electricity for.  
To learn about atomic bombs and 1920’s style “Death Rays” consult your local library.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2003, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/38 "2003-08-05T19:48:37Z")

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Ah, they’re 1920’s style “Death Rays”.

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**Author:** ![daldai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/278dde/32.png) [@daldai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/daldai)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2003, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/39 "2003-08-05T19:50:21Z")

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:o

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**Author:** ![Philster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/13edae/32.png) [@Philster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Philster)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2003, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/40 "2003-08-05T19:53:55Z")

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Funny, they don’t seem a bit more modern than Death Rays from 1919.

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