# Are scalar weapons for real? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [August 4, 2003, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879 "2003-08-04T12:50:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 49
**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2003, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/961 "2003-11-10T00:10:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by MonkeyMule \* > \*\*Are you 100% sure they have sold all their death-ray intrests? I would be just like teh Zotti’s to sell their shares to smaller compaines that they own through other coperations they own, controling death-rays from the shadows. > \*\* The Registar of Death-Ray Executives shows that no members of the Zotti family serve as members of the board of or as executives in any death-ray companies, and the various Annual Reports show no Zottis or Zotti companies as being stockholders. ---
**Author:** ![MonkeyMule](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc348/32.png) [@MonkeyMule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MonkeyMule)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2003, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/962 "2003-11-10T00:21:17Z")
Well Obviously, but have you looked into **all** the holding of the compaines? Not just the companies they on outright, but companies they own a large portion of through other companies and so forth. I just can’t believe that the Zotti;s got out of the game. Its doesnt seem to be their style. ---
**Author:** ![umop\_ap\_sdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/dbc845/32.png) [@umop\_ap\_sdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/umop_ap_sdn)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2003, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/963 "2003-11-10T03:00:43Z")
But the horse is well on its way to that elusive thousandth post. ---
**Author:** ![MonkeyMule](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc348/32.png) [@MonkeyMule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MonkeyMule)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2003, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/964 "2003-11-10T03:26:08Z")
Also known as the Glue Factory, which will be used to pin the next horse to the wall 😉 ---
**Author:** ![MonkeyMule](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc348/32.png) [@MonkeyMule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MonkeyMule)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2003, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/965 "2003-11-10T03:26:08Z")
Also known as the Glue Factory, which will be used to pin the next horse to the wall 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Padeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@Padeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Padeye)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2003, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/966 "2003-11-10T05:34:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tuckerfan \* > \*\*Well, it’s cleverly disgused as a toy, but [these guys are selling what appears to be an early Zotti prototype.](http://sciplus.com/singleItem.cfm?terms=8764&cartLogFrom=Search) \*\* No, no, no! That’s a Rex Mars© Atomic Discombobulator™. Any fool who has browsed the weapons section at Cockamamies would know that. It’s faux '20s at best and was popular in the mid fifties. The kind of thing Irving Klaw used in some of his rare Sci-Fi work. Typically alienoverlords would abduct Betty Page who would be bound and gag… \ What was the question? ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2003, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/967 "2003-11-11T00:05:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Governor Quinn \* > \*\*The Registar of Death-Ray Executives shows that no members of the Zotti family serve as members of the board of or as executives in any death-ray companies, and the various Annual Reports show no Zottis or Zotti companies as being stockholders. \*\* What about their consulting work for Military Ordinance Research Kinetics, Inc.? IIRC, the “payment” the Zotti’s get for their work for M.O.R.K. is a share in the company, once the units in development are combat tested. (Hmmmm, considering the close ties the Zotti’s have with the Bush Administration, you don’t suppose that the Zotti’s supplied the Bush Admin. with the “proof” that Iraq had WMD? That way, the Zotti’s could get not only their share in the company, but rack up huge profits from sales of death rays to the military.) ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2003, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/968 "2003-11-11T00:21:06Z")
I’m lost. Is this the Lord of the Rings thread? ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2003, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/969 "2003-11-11T01:03:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by pravnik \* > \*\*I’m lost. Is this the Lord of the Rings thread? \*\* Nope, you can tell because we’ve got clearer skin. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2003, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/970 "2003-11-11T02:03:46Z")
I’m nigh onto transparent. [sub][sub]I wish I knew where this train was going, for I wish to not have ever gotten on.[/sub][/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2003, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/971 "2003-11-11T02:23:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wikkit \* > \*\*I’m nigh onto transparent. > > [sub][sub]I wish I knew where this train was going, for I wish to not have ever gotten on.[/sub][/sub] \*\* Well, Drs. Calvin and Hobbes were working on a time machine, you could see if you could gain access to one of the prototypes (I think there’s one at OSU), hop into it, go back in time and advise yourself to _not_ open this thread. (Of course, you’ll have to get past security, but a box of donuts should take them out easily.) ---
**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2003, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/972 "2003-11-11T03:09:46Z")
I shall not shirk my responsibilty so. I will carry this thread, this one thread to blind them, and I will cast it into the fires of mount _ZOOM!_ ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2003, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/973 "2003-11-11T03:12:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wikkit \* > \*\*I shall not shirk my responsibilty so. I will carry this thread, this one thread to blind them, and I will cast it into the fires of mount > _ZOOM!_ \*\* Yeah, but if the sexy elf tempts you and begs you **not** to destroy this thread, are ya gonna listen to her, or are you gonna pitch it into the flames? ---
**Author:** ![BytopianDream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9de0a6/32.png) [@BytopianDream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BytopianDream)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2003, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/974 "2003-11-11T03:15:36Z")
Wow… this thread is still alive? Crazy… Almost as crazy as… I can’t say it… 1120’s Style Llama Catapults. ---
**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2003, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/975 "2003-11-11T04:26:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tuckerfan \* > \*\*Well, Drs. Calvin and Hobbes were working on a time machine, you could see if you could gain access to one of the prototypes (I think there’s one at OSU), hop into it, go back in time and advise yourself to _not_ open this thread. (Of course, you’ll have to get past security, but a box of donuts should take them out easily.) \*\* In fact, Drs. Calvin and Hobbes did finish a complete time machine. The papers of both men comment on their exploits throughout time and space. Sadly, none of their papers make it clear how to properly operate the time machine. As a result, none of the six efforts to operate the time machines after the death of Calvin in 1981 has succeeded, and, in fact, two of the nine machines at Ohio State were lost forever during these tests. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2003, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/976 "2003-11-11T04:43:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Governor Quinn \* > \*\*In fact, Drs. Calvin and Hobbes did finish a complete time machine. The papers of both men comment on their exploits throughout time and space. Sadly, none of their papers make it clear how to properly operate the time machine. As a result, none of the six efforts to operate the time machines after the death of Calvin in 1981 has succeeded, and, in fact, two of the nine machines at Ohio State were lost forever during these tests. \*\* :rolleyes: Don’t tell me you fell for that. The good doctors recounting of their chrononautical adventures were intended as social satire. Think of Gulliver’s Travels. Note that one page of equations contains E=MC[sup]3[/sup] an error neither scientist would have ever made. More, solving the equations on the page leads you to- L[sup]2[/sup] I Pi U T or LLIPiUT. Rearrange those letters and you get Liliput, a clear wink to Swift. The continuing research is simply other scientists continuing the joke. Now can we please return to the serious matter of discussing Death Rays? ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2003, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/977 "2003-11-11T04:57:05Z")
**Doc** , surely you remember that Drs. Calvin and Hobbes wrote many of their papers in code? Some of the codes haven’t been cracked as of yet, so it’s entirely possible that what _looks_ like a gag, is really serious research. ---
**Author:** ![umop\_ap\_sdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/dbc845/32.png) [@umop\_ap\_sdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/umop_ap_sdn)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2003, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/978 "2003-11-11T07:47:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by BytopianDream \* > \*\*1120’s Style Llama Catapults. \*\* BaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa **THUMP!** Poor llama. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2003, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/979 "2003-11-11T13:13:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tuckerfan \* > \*\ ***Doc** , surely you remember that Drs. Calvin and Hobbes wrote many of their papers in code? Some of the codes haven’t been cracked as of yet, so it’s entirely possible that what _looks_ like a gag, is really serious research. \*\* True, especially considering that, during the 1940’s, there was an assuption that their work on transmorigifying guns (which are german to our discussion, as it was through work on this that they shifted to death rays) was actually a parody on pre-WWI arms dealers. It took a demonstration by Dr. Reisinger of Cal-Tech in 1952 to prove that the papers were, in fact, an information guide for the use of transmorgifying guns, which was confirmed by Dr. Calvin in his 1954 Demonstrations at MIT. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879/980 "2003-11-12T00:22:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Governor Quinn \* > \*\*True, especially considering that, during the 1940’s, there was an assuption that their work on transmorigifying guns (which are german to our discussion, as it was through work on this that they shifted to death rays) was actually a parody on pre-WWI arms dealers. It took a demonstration by Dr. Reisinger of Cal-Tech in 1952 to prove that the papers were, in fact, an information guide for the use of transmorgifying guns, which was confirmed by Dr. Calvin in his 1954 Demonstrations at MIT. \*\* Wasn’t it later revealed that Dr. Reisinger’s assistant (who’s name escapes me at the moment) was the one who figured out that when Dr. Calvin wrote “shaving cream” it was code for “Illudium Phosdex” and that was what enabled them to build their own tranmorgifying gun? Or am I misremembering again? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879.md?page=48) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-scalar-weapons-for-real/192879.md?page=50)