# Are Some People Above The Law? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [August 12, 2022, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-some-people-above-the-law/969574 "2022-08-12T19:56:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-some-people-above-the-law/969574/41 "2022-09-10T12:26:35Z")
> [@Clu-Me-In](#): > > If all men in American society are equal, and “no one is above the law,” why does it appear that Donald J. Trump continues to get away with breaking the laws, something most folks would easily go to prison or at the minimum, get arrested and charged in court for. Playing devil’s advocate, heads of state need to be somewhat above the law, especially when their political rivals may be the ones who make law and dominate the courts. Otherwise there’s opportunity for opposing factions to overly constrain the executive by judicial and legislative harassment, simply to gain power. Liberals would, of course, be hard-pressed to admit the necessity of this fact given Republicans’ brazen and disgusting abuse of it. But they will instantly remember if & when the insane & corrupt Republican political minority take control of Congress in 2023. They’ve openly stated their intent to use their legislative & oversight power to harass Joe & Hunter Biden to the ends of the earth, and they’ve given this threat teeth by packing the courts. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-some-people-above-the-law/969574/42 "2022-09-10T12:48:22Z")
Do the Clintons next! I want to hear about all those folks they murdered! We will not note the specificity that “Trump is probably 100 times cleaner than Dirty Joe Biden and his dirty son Hunter!!!” isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Workingdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f17d59/32.png) [@Workingdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Workingdude)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-some-people-above-the-law/969574/43 "2022-09-21T02:10:48Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > Here’s the issue with what you got here. While there may be something about Hunter, it’s speculation at best, and that speculation is mostly/totally hearsay by one side that stands to benefit from said hearsay, but **nothing has been presented to us**. > > Same thing with Trumps claims of the other sides election fraud - **where is the evidence,** where is your lawyers pressing forth with a case of mass voter fraud anywhere? All such claims, though filed, were never put forth in front of a judge, all such claims of mass voter fraud were withdrawn by team Trump at the bench and minor things were perused instead. I’m sorry, I may as well be in the show me state and that’s where Trump never once came through. And that’s a big problem. He seems to want blind obedience and refuses to present evidence he says he has. I say put up or shut up, shit or get off the pot and show us what you got. > > And the red flag that what he accused the other side of doing (election fraud), he got caught doing himself. We can first hand ourselves see some of Trump’s crimes, such as attempted election fraud. We can hear Trump’s own voice demanding that votes be ‘found’ for him and mentioning prison to the person Trump was talking to. This is just one example. Trump doing voter fraud? I have never heard that one. I still believe not all those 80 plus million votes for Dirty Joe are legit but no one will come clean and blow the whistle on this as it’s too easy to sweep under the carpet and stay hidden. Nobody wants to raise a fuss about a small percentage of tainted votes. We all know the media mob suppressed the truth about the real deal with Hunter Biden’s L.T. before the 2020 November election. We all know the Media Mob will protect Biden and his son. Those with a wise brain and gut instinct can see Biden is Dirty. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-some-people-above-the-law/969574/44 "2022-09-21T02:18:26Z")
Where does he rank among Dirty politicians, do you suppose? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-some-people-above-the-law/969574/45 "2022-09-21T02:19:52Z")
> [@Workingdude](#): > > We all know the media mob suppressed the truth about the real deal with Hunter Biden’s L.T. before the 2020 November election. I’d be grateful for you (or anyone) telling me 1) what _is_ the truth about Hunter’s laptop and 2) what is your source of that information? ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-some-people-above-the-law/969574/46 "2022-09-21T02:28:12Z")
> [@Workingdude](#): > > Trump doing voter fraud? I have never heard that one. Here you go. [https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/georgia-grand-jury-trump-investigation-1.6430045](https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/georgia-grand-jury-trump-investigation-1.6430045) ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-some-people-above-the-law/969574/47 "2022-09-21T04:42:41Z")
> [@Workingdude](#): > > I still believe not all those 80 plus million votes for Dirty Joe are legit Based on what evidence? Pal, all this comes down to EVIDENCE. Show the primary evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-some-people-above-the-law/969574/48 "2022-09-21T16:37:07Z")
> [@Workingdude](#): > > > [@kanicbird](#): > > > > Here’s the issue with what you got here. While there may be something about Hunter, it’s speculation at best, and that speculation is mostly/totally hearsay by one side that stands to benefit from said hearsay, but **nothing has been presented to us**. > > > > Same thing with Trumps claims of the other sides election fraud - **where is the evidence,** where is your lawyers pressing forth with a case of mass voter fraud anywhere? All such claims, though filed, were never put forth in front of a judge, all such claims of mass voter fraud were withdrawn by team Trump at the bench and minor things were perused instead. I’m sorry, I may as well be in the show me state and that’s where Trump never once came through. And that’s a big problem. He seems to want blind obedience and refuses to present evidence he says he has. I say put up or shut up, shit or get off the pot and show us what you got. > > > > And the red flag that what he accused the other side of doing (election fraud), he got caught doing himself. We can first hand ourselves see some of Trump’s crimes, such as attempted election fraud. We can hear Trump’s own voice demanding that votes be ‘found’ for him and mentioning prison to the person Trump was talking to. This is just one example. > > Trump doing voter fraud? I have never heard that one. I still believe not all those 80 plus million votes for Dirty Joe are legit but no one will come clean and blow the whistle on this as it’s too easy to sweep under the carpet and stay hidden. Nobody wants to raise a fuss about a small percentage of tainted votes. > > We all know the media mob suppressed the truth about the real deal with Hunter Biden’s L.T. before the 2020 November election. We all know the Media Mob will protect Biden and his son. Those with a wise brain and gut instinct can see Biden is Dirty. Well, Biden never defrauded a bunch of senior citizens and desperate unemployed people out of their life savings, and it’s fact that those people sued him and made them give them their money back. Don’t you get that LOTS of people HATE Trump? I’ll concede that many of the votes for Joe Biden were really votes against Trump, and there are people, including myself, that would’ve crawled over broken glass to vote for a dirty gym sock if it was running against Trump. But those votes still count. That’s why he was a bad candidate, in spite of all the enthusiasm among his supporters. When that many people really really hate you, you are doomed to lose. It doesn’t matter if they hate you a lot or just a little a bit, a vote is a vote. And Trump is a losing loser that lost. ---
**Author:** ![Workingdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f17d59/32.png) [@Workingdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Workingdude)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2022, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-some-people-above-the-law/969574/49 "2022-09-25T05:52:37Z")
Please don’t call me pal. There will never be any evidence because Dirty Joe has too many fools like you protecting his dirty ass because you fools love his policies of open borders defund the police and all that other nonsense. Why don’t you wake up and save this country from going to hell! ---
**Author:** ![Clu-Me-In](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@Clu-Me-In](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clu-Me-In)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2022, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-some-people-above-the-law/969574/50 "2022-09-25T06:40:20Z")
No need to get abusive man. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2022, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-some-people-above-the-law/969574/51 "2022-09-25T09:29:46Z")
**Warning** for insulting another poster outside of the Pit. Attack thevpost and not the poster. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2022, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-some-people-above-the-law/969574/52 "2022-09-25T13:16:49Z")
And here i thought Biden was not being investigated because he never attempted anything ever during his awesomely mediocre public service career. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-some-people-above-the-law/969574/53 "2022-09-27T17:51:25Z")
> [@Workingdude](#): > > There will never be any evidence So, there will never be any evidence because no evidence, zero evidence, NONE can be found. So that means Biden is ‘dirty’ Got it. There isn’t even evidence of missing evidence. Whereas the FBI knew or at least strongly suspected that Trump had stolen top secret documents. And sure enough a judge agreed and the FBI found them. There are truck loads of other evidence of Trumps other crimes as well. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-some-people-above-the-law/969574/54 "2022-09-28T23:48:20Z")
> [@Clu-Me-In](#): > > If all men in American society are equal, and “no one is above the law,” why does it appear that Donald J. Trump continues to get away with breaking the laws, something most folks would easily go to prison or at the minimum, get arrested and charged in court for. The premise is mistaken. All American men are not equal, and skillful criminals are often above the law, in the sense that the law fails to touch them for their crimes. American [police solve just 2 percent of major crimes.](https://theconversation.com/police-solve-just-2-of-all-major-crimes-143878) Consistent with the above, and if my math is right, if you commit, say, two dozen major crimes, the chances you will be convicted at least once are 38 percent. For all I know, that Trump’s situation. I would be deeply ashamed if I committed a serious crime. I hope most of us feel the same, but there are many exceptions. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2022, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-some-people-above-the-law/969574/55 "2022-10-07T09:00:07Z")
They’re not above the law, I think it’s more like it is with banks: Some people are too big to fail. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2022, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-some-people-above-the-law/969574/56 "2022-10-07T10:29:17Z")
Life is not just, has never been and yes, some people get away with murder. Where’s the news? And then sometimes they are incarcerated nonetheless for another reason, like for instance O.J. Simpson or Al Capone were. I still hope that TFG, his immediate family, and his enablers will meet a similar fate. Just like I keep waiting for that Mussolini moment to catch up with Putin. Turns out I am an optimist! Whodda thunk! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-some-people-above-the-law/969574.md?page=2)