# Are some vines (and other beverages) produced today for sale/consumption in 100 years? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [July 14, 2013, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-some-vines-and-other-beverages-produced-today-for-sale-consumption-in-100-years/663500 "2013-07-14T19:05:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-some-vines-and-other-beverages-produced-today-for-sale-consumption-in-100-years/663500/21 "2013-07-15T20:13:30Z")
> [@aNewLeaf](#): > > In that time and place, Jefferson freeing his slaves wasn’t really viable. > Most couldn’t earn their way as skilled labor (though some could), and they would have to leave Virginia in a year if freed. So letting them just stay there and work like they always had was the only good option. > > Edit- a not-completely-evil option? I dunno. > But just setting all the slaves free would not have been kind. Given that this is GQ, I’m going to call BULLSHIT on that. The only thing that would have mattered would have been the slaves’ own desires. Whether or not some white guy thought it best for them to be slaves is rather besides the point. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-some-vines-and-other-beverages-produced-today-for-sale-consumption-in-100-years/663500/22 "2013-07-15T20:32:47Z")
> [@Donnerwetter](#): > > Were these bottles kept in store by the producer (or maybe a seller) for sale at a much later date on purpose or did they just forget about them and to everybody’s surprise, one can still drink it? Although this isn’t exactly what you were asking, it should be noted that it is very common for the more upscale wineries to have a “Library” where they keep a few cases of their older, and often better, wines. Often, such library wines are taken off the market and only brought out for special tasting events. But they usually can’t afford to go overboard and save cases of every single vintage ever produced. Further, almost all wine has what the experts would consider an optimal aging period. Best if drunk after “X years” but before “Y years”. Whites are usually drunk earlier and don’t age as well as reds, although it’s all a matter of taste. If you like it right out of the barrel, then _Salud_! ---
**Author:** ![tanstaafl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba8739/32.png) [@tanstaafl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanstaafl)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-some-vines-and-other-beverages-produced-today-for-sale-consumption-in-100-years/663500/23 "2013-07-15T21:44:55Z")
> [@Claverhouse](#): > > \*The bottle came from a collection of wine that had reportedly been _discovered behind a bricked-up cellar wall_ in an old building in Paris. Was there a cask of Amontillado in there? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![phreesh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@phreesh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phreesh)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-some-vines-and-other-beverages-produced-today-for-sale-consumption-in-100-years/663500/24 "2013-07-15T22:02:31Z")
> [@Donnerwetter](#): > > Questions: > > Were these bottles kept in store by the producer (or maybe a seller) for sale at a much later date on purpose or did they just forget about them and to everybody’s surprise, one can still drink it? > > Is this still being done today, i. e. are there wineries or distilleries that produce vine/liquor for sale at a much later date (meaning: the people who are involved in the production process today will be long retired or dead by the time the beverage is actually consumed)? 1. Sometimes, but not usually. The bulk of 80-100+year-old wines are found in private cellars. They die or they want some money, so those lots are sold off. 2. Yes. The market for very old fine wines and spirits is now more established, so more companies are catering to this market. In 100 years, the supply of 100-year-old wines and spirits will be larger than it is today. This is still a very small percentage of the market, but it is being served. The prices people are willing to pay for these very old wines and spirits is sky-high. ---
**Author:** ![Claverhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Claverhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claverhouse)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-some-vines-and-other-beverages-produced-today-for-sale-consumption-in-100-years/663500/25 "2013-07-15T22:50:08Z")
> [@tanstaafl](#): > > Was there a cask of Amontillado in there? 🙂 Uncertain, but there were some little bells in the dust. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-some-vines-and-other-beverages-produced-today-for-sale-consumption-in-100-years/663500.md?page=1)