# Are straight women less attractive than bi and lesbian women?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-straight-women-less-attractive-than-bi-and-lesbian-women/618227>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [April 9, 2012, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-straight-women-less-attractive-than-bi-and-lesbian-women/618227 "2012-04-09T03:54:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Fred13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc79bd/32.png) [@Fred13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fred13)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-straight-women-less-attractive-than-bi-and-lesbian-women/618227/342 "2012-04-10T14:28:34Z")

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> [@StusBlues](#):
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> Dude, all you’ve been doing is looking around. That’s not evidence.
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> And, yes, I do know some women who wouldn’t take too damn kindly to your gf kissing them without permission. These women include full-out lesbians as well. It’s easy, but it’s not that easy.

Incredible, so you’ve allowed all of your women to just go and make out with other women?

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-straight-women-less-attractive-than-bi-and-lesbian-women/618227/343 "2012-04-10T14:30:20Z")

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> [@Fred13](#):
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> You proved my point. So all of your girlfriends have been bi and the women you know have all made out with other women correct? Thanks for proving my point.

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> Incredible, so you’ve allowed all of your women to just go and make out with other women?

How are you getting that from anything I said? Every woman I’ve ever dated has been hit on. Not all have said yes. In fact, AFAIK, none have.

And you bet your ass I would have “allowed” it 😉 I’m down with that shit.

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**Author:** ![Fred13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc79bd/32.png) [@Fred13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fred13)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-straight-women-less-attractive-than-bi-and-lesbian-women/618227/344 "2012-04-10T14:31:08Z")

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> [@StusBlues](#):
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> Dude, all you’ve been doing is looking around. That’s not evidence.
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> And, yes, I do know some women who wouldn’t take too damn kindly to your gf kissing them without permission. These women include full-out lesbians as well. It’s easy, but it’s not that easy.

Let me ask you sir, what percentage of the women I. Your life or known have never made out with women? Since you first say more than I think and later say it’s easy for a girl to just go up to a girl and make out with her now.

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**Author:** ![Fred13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc79bd/32.png) [@Fred13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fred13)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-straight-women-less-attractive-than-bi-and-lesbian-women/618227/345 "2012-04-10T14:32:33Z")

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> [@StusBlues](#):
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> How are you getting that from anything I said?

Because you just said young women make out with women all the time and further that girls with boyfriends can have a girl walk up to her and kiss her now. Exactly my points.

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**Author:** ![Fred13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc79bd/32.png) [@Fred13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fred13)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-straight-women-less-attractive-than-bi-and-lesbian-women/618227/346 "2012-04-10T14:33:50Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Your earlier posts aren’t evidence of anything except that you’re delusional.

You clearly didn’t see this stumbles right above you saying saying that most women are now bisexual as well and he is younger as well. The rest of you are older, so you wouldn’t understand.

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**Author:** ![Fred13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc79bd/32.png) [@Fred13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fred13)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-straight-women-less-attractive-than-bi-and-lesbian-women/618227/347 "2012-04-10T14:36:20Z")

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> [@StusBlues](#):
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> How are you getting that from anything I said? Every woman I’ve ever dated has been hit on. Not all have said yes. In fact, AFAIK, none have.
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> And you bet your ass I would have “allowed” it 😉 I’m down with that shit.

I will laugh when your woman leaves you for a woman after you allow her to make out with a woman. Then your little smiley face will be gone. It’s a,along how every guy doesn’t mind their woman leaving for another woman but if it’s a man they would freak. Another point for why all woman are now bisexual, since they all get away with it.

Thank you again for proving my point.

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**Author:** ![Fred13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc79bd/32.png) [@Fred13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fred13)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-straight-women-less-attractive-than-bi-and-lesbian-women/618227/348 "2012-04-10T14:38:52Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Aye, the legends tell of a point to this thread. But no man has ever seen it and lived to tell the tale.

The point is that straight women of my generation are few are far in between that don’t make out with women as well as these women aren’t the attractive ones. You are arguing on this point although I doubt you know anyone at my age except mym your child if you have one or a friend’s child, so yo wouldn’t know this at all. Every person who is my age in this thread or,around has proven my point further.

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-straight-women-less-attractive-than-bi-and-lesbian-women/618227/349 "2012-04-10T14:39:00Z")

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> [@Fred13](#):
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> You clearly didn’t see this stumbles right above you saying saying that most women are now bisexual as well and he is younger as well. The rest of you are older, so you wouldn’t understand.

I wouldn’t say most women are bisexual, but most women today won’t have you shot if you proposition them. It wasn’t long ago that this wasn’t true.

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> Because you just said young women make out with women all the time and further that girls with boyfriends can have a girl walk up to her and kiss her now.

\*A \*girl, not \*any \*girl. If a girl wants to kiss a girl, she can go to an Ani DiFranco concert and commence to networking. Won’t take her long, but that’s not the same as saying she can get busy with anyone she wants.

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-straight-women-less-attractive-than-bi-and-lesbian-women/618227/350 "2012-04-10T14:40:32Z")

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> [@Fred13](#):
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> I will laugh when your woman leaves you for a woman after you allow her to make out with a woman. Then your little smiley face will be gone. It’s a,along how every guy doesn’t mind their woman leaving for another woman but if it’s a man they would freak. Another point for why all woman are now bisexual, since they all get away with it.

I think we’re at the crux of the matter here. Brother’s got some serious abandonment issues. We’re here for you, man.

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**Author:** ![Fred13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc79bd/32.png) [@Fred13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fred13)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-straight-women-less-attractive-than-bi-and-lesbian-women/618227/351 "2012-04-10T14:43:46Z")

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> [@StusBlues](#):
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> I think we’re at the crux of the matter here. Brother’s got some serious abandonment issues. We’re here for you, man.

I’m laughing at you ignoring my question on how many women constitute this percentage of not making out with women. Too low for you eh? And no, I’ve never dated. I only interact with women for friendship or sex. I’m not foolish enough to date nowadays.

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**Author:** ![Fred13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc79bd/32.png) [@Fred13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fred13)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-straight-women-less-attractive-than-bi-and-lesbian-women/618227/352 "2012-04-10T14:46:05Z")

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> [@StusBlues](#):
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> I wouldn’t say most women are bisexual, but most women today won’t have you shot if you proposition them. It wasn’t long ago that this wasn’t true.
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> \*A \*girl, not \*any \*girl. If a girl wants to kiss a girl, she can go to an Ani DiFranco concert and commence to networking. Won’t take her long, but that’s not the same as saying she can get busy with anyone she wants.

You contradict yourself yet again. You claim most women are not bisexual, but then you claim that a girl can find another girl very easily nowadays, which would mean that most women are open to being with other women, meaning most women are bisexual or at the least have made out with women and further pricing my point yet again.

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-straight-women-less-attractive-than-bi-and-lesbian-women/618227/353 "2012-04-10T14:48:26Z")

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> [@Fred13](#):
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> I’m laughing at you ignoring my question on how many women constitute this percentage of not making out with women. Too low for you eh?

I’ve answered that above.

And you don’t date? Damn, no wonder you think all women are queer.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-straight-women-less-attractive-than-bi-and-lesbian-women/618227/354 "2012-04-10T14:49:49Z")

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> [@Fred13](#):
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> You contradict yourself yet again. You claim most women are not bisexual, but then you claim that a girl can find another girl very easily nowadays, which would mean that most women are open to being with other women, meaning most women are bisexual or at the least have made out with women and further pricing my point yet again.

Christ. Your reading comprehension is just abysmal.

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-straight-women-less-attractive-than-bi-and-lesbian-women/618227/355 "2012-04-10T14:50:51Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Christ. Your reading comprehension is just abysmal.

We are enjoined from using proper terms for his behavior in this forum, but I assure you that comprehension is not the issue here.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-straight-women-less-attractive-than-bi-and-lesbian-women/618227/356 "2012-04-10T14:50:57Z")

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> [@Fred13](#):
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> You are arguing on this point although I doubt you know anyone at my age except mym your child if you have one or a friend’s child, so yo wouldn’t know this at all. Every person who is my age in this thread or,around has proven my point further.

> [@Marley23](#):
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> We’re in the same generation.

Doesn’t really matter. You were proved wrong in post 12 out of 200-something. I hope you’ve enjoyed this.

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**Author:** ![Fred13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc79bd/32.png) [@Fred13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fred13)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-straight-women-less-attractive-than-bi-and-lesbian-women/618227/357 "2012-04-10T14:52:52Z")

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> [@StusBlues](#):
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> I’ve answered that above.
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> And you don’t date? Damn, no wonder you think all women are queer.

No, no you didn’t. And no, I’ve known all women were bi at my age for a long time, not because of not dating. It’s funny how that is your only rebuttal after proving my point.

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**Author:** ![Fred13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc79bd/32.png) [@Fred13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fred13)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-straight-women-less-attractive-than-bi-and-lesbian-women/618227/358 "2012-04-10T14:55:11Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Doesn’t really matter. You were proved wrong in post 12 out of 200-something. I hope you’ve enjoyed this.

How was I prven wrong. And yes generation bivouac matters.

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**Author:** ![Fred13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc79bd/32.png) [@Fred13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fred13)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-straight-women-less-attractive-than-bi-and-lesbian-women/618227/359 "2012-04-10T14:56:25Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Christ. Your reading comprehension is just abysmal.

Please do explain. I’m sorry that I can’t read although no me has proven my logic wrong yet.

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**Author:** ![Trom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@Trom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trom)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-straight-women-less-attractive-than-bi-and-lesbian-women/618227/360 "2012-04-10T14:59:07Z")

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> [@Fred13](#):
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> You clearly didn’t see this stumbles right above you saying saying that most women are now bisexual as well and he is younger as well. The rest of you are older, so you wouldn’t understand.

Like you, I was born in the 1980s. I know your generation. In my experience, you are wrong. Now what?

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**Author:** ![Fred13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc79bd/32.png) [@Fred13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fred13)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-straight-women-less-attractive-than-bi-and-lesbian-women/618227/361 "2012-04-10T14:59:31Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Doesn’t really matter. You were proved wrong in post 12 out of 200-something. I hope you’ve enjoyed this.

Please do tell how I was proven wrong.

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