# Are the actions of BLM wise or foolish? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 22, 2015, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-actions-of-blm-wise-or-foolish/738278 "2015-11-22T15:18:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![GloryDays](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GloryDays](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GloryDays)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-actions-of-blm-wise-or-foolish/738278/361 "2015-12-13T15:02:00Z")
> [@Human\_Action](#): > > [Accusing civil rights leaders of being communists?](https://www.google.com/search?q=martin+luther+king+communist&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=667&tbm=isch&imgil=ff9wU2AqBTdpsM%253A%253BCOMO2iIeQVBkdM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.thedailybeast.com%25252Farticles%25252F2012%25252F01%25252F16%25252Fmartin-luther-king-jr-a-communist-why-he-s-been-whitewashed.html&source=iu&pf=m&fir=ff9wU2AqBTdpsM%253A%252CCOMO2iIeQVBkdM%252C_&usg= __kpONevN5qeJbJ4TtqYIb7gcYRX0%3D&ved=0ahUKEwis9azNjNnJAhWMQSYKHVoGCZsQyjcIJw&ei=jodtVqz2EoyDmQHajKTYCQ#imgrc=ff9wU2AqBTdpsM%3A&usg=__ kpONevN5qeJbJ4TtqYIb7gcYRX0%3D) [Murdering them?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_civil_rights_workers%27_murders) > > Are you posting from 1964, sir? Yo, no one is going to be hurt. I just want to know the roots of the movement. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-actions-of-blm-wise-or-foolish/738278/362 "2015-12-13T15:05:03Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > Bruh, I’m just saying that the movement has a problem right now. They’re seen as communists and they’re being funded by Revcom. The movement has a far way to go. I want to like them, but they want to hurt the free market. The “Revcom” stuff is a bullshit conspiracy theory. “Seen as communists” by their critics, perhaps, but that doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with reality. It’d be nice if you had cites for claims like they “want to hurt the free market”. Bring some cites, bruh. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-actions-of-blm-wise-or-foolish/738278/363 "2015-12-13T15:07:14Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > If they ever came in my friends neck of the woods, they would not make it out alive, and that is a fact. [QUOTE=GloryDays] Yo, no one is going to be hurt. [/QUOTE] I don’t think that’s what _“and that is a fact”_ means. ---
**Author:** ![Memnon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@Memnon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Memnon)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-actions-of-blm-wise-or-foolish/738278/364 "2015-12-13T15:13:17Z")
[This](http://www.nationalreview.com/article/428400/student-protesters-cancer-fundraiser-microaggression-kansas) particular BLM action seems rather foolish. ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-actions-of-blm-wise-or-foolish/738278/365 "2015-12-13T15:13:47Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > Yo, no one is going to be hurt. I just want to know the roots of the movement. See post 328. ---
**Author:** ![1224rattusrattus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/ec9cab/32.png) [@1224rattusrattus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/1224rattusrattus)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-actions-of-blm-wise-or-foolish/738278/366 "2015-12-13T15:59:14Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > take the well-known crack-versus-powder discrepancy on cocaine, which leads to well-documented racial divergences. But Crack is exponentially more addictive than cocaine, is it any surprise that criminal law treats these two drugs as being almost entirely unrelated. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-actions-of-blm-wise-or-foolish/738278/367 "2015-12-13T16:15:07Z")
> [@1224rattusrattus](#): > > But Crack is exponentially more addictive than cocaine, I think this is a good point. It could have been stated a little better though, just saying. ---
**Author:** ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-actions-of-blm-wise-or-foolish/738278/368 "2015-12-13T16:16:56Z")
> [@Tithonus](#): > > [This](http://www.nationalreview.com/article/428400/student-protesters-cancer-fundraiser-microaggression-kansas) particular BLM action seems rather foolish. Is this a whoosh? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-actions-of-blm-wise-or-foolish/738278/369 "2015-12-13T16:24:57Z")
> [@1224rattusrattus](#): > > But Crack is exponentially more addictive than cocaine, is it any surprise that criminal law treats these two drugs as being almost entirely unrelated. [Wiki](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Sentencing_Act) says > [@](#): > > A study released in 1997 examined the addictive nature of both crack and powder cocaine and concluded that one was no more addictive than the other. The study explored other reasons why crack is viewed as more addictive and theorized, "a more accurate interpretation of existing evidence is that already abuse-prone cocaine users are most likely to move toward a more efficient mode of ingestion as they escalate their use.[7] The Los Angeles Times commented, “There was never any scientific basis for the disparity, just panic as the crack epidemic swept the nation’s cities.”[8] It goes on to add that > [@](#): > > In 2002, the United States Sentencing Commission “found that the ratio was created based upon a misperception of the dangers of crack cocaine, which had since been proven to have a less drastic effect than previously thought.”[6] ---
**Author:** ![Memnon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@Memnon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Memnon)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-actions-of-blm-wise-or-foolish/738278/370 "2015-12-13T17:07:46Z")
> [@AtomicDog](#): > > Is this a whoosh? I did think it was a hoax at first, but as far as I can tell the article is genuine. ---
**Author:** ![1224rattusrattus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/ec9cab/32.png) [@1224rattusrattus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/1224rattusrattus)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-actions-of-blm-wise-or-foolish/738278/371 "2015-12-13T17:22:22Z")
I can acknowledge that crack might not be as addictive as it was once thought to be, and I can perhaps accept that crack & cocaine are physically/ chemically addictive as each other. But if your first experience of coke had as much buzz as two expressos and only marginally more enjoyable, and your first experience of crack was like heaven on earth- which substance is more likely to turn you into a complete fiend? ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-actions-of-blm-wise-or-foolish/738278/372 "2015-12-13T17:57:13Z")
> [@Tithonus](#): > > I did think it was a hoax at first, but as far as I can tell the article is genuine. If the BLM (or any other “movement”) has done actions /made points /picked hills to die on that when something else extremely stupid comes along and you can’t be sure whether they actually did it or it is a PARODY of their past behavior…well, that right there tells you they are a borderline joke already. ---
**Author:** ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-actions-of-blm-wise-or-foolish/738278/373 "2015-12-13T20:54:16Z")
> [@Tithonus](#): > > I did think it was a hoax at first, but as far as I can tell the article is genuine. What I mean is, are YOU whooshing us? I’ve read that article four times now, and I’ve not seen anything that demonstrates that BLM has any hand with what’s happening on that campus. If I’m wrong, please correct me. ---
**Author:** ![Memnon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@Memnon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Memnon)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-actions-of-blm-wise-or-foolish/738278/374 "2015-12-13T21:01:15Z")
> [@AtomicDog](#): > > What I mean is, are YOU whooshing us? I’ve read that article four times now, and I’ve not seen anything that demonstrates that BLM has any hand with what’s happening on that campus. If I’m wrong, please correct me. Looking at the article again I can see that you’re right. I don’t know where I got the idea that this was a BLM protest from. My apologies. ---
**Author:** ![Personal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Personal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Personal)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-actions-of-blm-wise-or-foolish/738278/375 "2015-12-13T22:02:59Z")
> [@Tithonus](#): > > Looking at the article again I can see that you’re right. I don’t know where I got the idea that this was a BLM protest from. My apologies. There was one tweet quoted that contained “#blacklivesmatter” that may have planted the seed: “.@KUTriDelta cares more about philanthropy than #blacklivesmatter #RockChalkInvisibleHawk @KUnews @KansanNews @InvisibleHawks” ---
**Author:** ![GloryDays](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GloryDays](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GloryDays)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-actions-of-blm-wise-or-foolish/738278/376 "2015-12-13T23:52:03Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > More fiction, I’m pretty sure. If you’d care to back it up with cites, feel free. > > The way that “ties to communists” is such a frequent accusation probably means that if I had a third grade teacher whose dad once went to a socialist hippies meeting, then I’d have “ties to communists”. Aight, bruh, I got some facts about the Revcom. [http://revcom.us/a/373/joe-veale-black-lives-matter-latino-lives-matter-all-lives-matter-en.html](http://revcom.us/a/373/joe-veale-black-lives-matter-latino-lives-matter-all-lives-matter-en.html) ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-actions-of-blm-wise-or-foolish/738278/377 "2015-12-14T00:02:51Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > Aight, bruh, I got some facts about the Revcom. > > [Black Lives Matter! Latino Lives Matter! All Lives Matter!](http://revcom.us/a/373/joe-veale-black-lives-matter-latino-lives-matter-all-lives-matter-en.html) Revcom exists and has opinions. That doesn’t confirm any of your assertions, which appear like right-wing conspiracy theories. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-actions-of-blm-wise-or-foolish/738278/378 "2015-12-14T01:02:05Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > Aight, bruh, First of all stop that-it isn’t funny. And before you think I’m saying it isn’t funny because I’m #triggered or whatever, that isn’t the case. I know a Pinochet loving minarchist authoritarian on Facebook and he’s hilarious. The problem is you aren’t-you basically sound like some Victorian gentlemen trying to get in touch with the youth of day by exchanging his top hat for a Skateboarder helmet while keeping rest of his suit on and going to the local park and going “Yo dudes, this is so cool radical!”. > [@](#): > > I got some facts about the Revcom. > > [Black Lives Matter! Latino Lives Matter! All Lives Matter!](http://revcom.us/a/373/joe-veale-black-lives-matter-latino-lives-matter-all-lives-matter-en.html) **GloryHole** logic (sic): A: People support Black Lives Matter B: Some random retarded leftist sect supports Black Lives Matter C: Therefore all BLM supporters subscribe to said retarded leftist sect Let us apply this logic closer at hand: A: **GloryHole** supports high military spending B: The Nazis supported high military spending C: Therefore **GloryHole** is a Nazi Looking forward to seeing you with your _Einsatzgruppen_ comrades clearing out the Gypsies from the village tomorrow. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![GloryDays](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GloryDays](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GloryDays)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-actions-of-blm-wise-or-foolish/738278/379 "2015-12-14T01:32:11Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > First of all stop that-it isn’t funny. And before you think I’m saying it isn’t funny because I’m #triggered or whatever, that isn’t the case. I know a Pinochet loving minarchist authoritarian on Facebook and he’s hilarious. The problem is you aren’t-you basically sound like some Victorian gentlemen trying to get in touch with the youth of day by exchanging his top hat for a Skateboarder helmet while keeping rest of his suit on and going to the local park and going “Yo dudes, this is so cool radical!”. > > **GloryHole** logic (sic): > A: People support Black Lives Matter > B: Some random retarded leftist sect supports Black Lives Matter > C: Therefore all BLM supporters subscribe to said retarded leftist sect > > Let us apply this logic closer at hand: > A: **GloryHole** supports high military spending > B: The Nazis supported high military spending > C: Therefore **GloryHole** is a Nazi > > Looking forward to seeing you with your _Einsatzgruppen_ comrades clearing out the Gypsies from the village tomorrow. 🙂 Yo, first of all calm down. I’m not a Nazi. Come on, brother, I’m not about that life. I am an American who is an independent. I want a strong military, because a weak one is not a good one. I want to have a good discussion. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-actions-of-blm-wise-or-foolish/738278/380 "2015-12-14T13:02:26Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > Yo, first of all calm down. I’m not a Nazi. Come on, brother, I’m not about that life. I am an American who is an independent. I want a strong military, because a weak one is not a good one. I want to have a good discussion. From what I can tell from your posts, the policies you advocate would weaken our military and America as a whole, and increase the dangers of terrorism, rather than strengthen us and weaken our enemies. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-actions-of-blm-wise-or-foolish/738278.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-actions-of-blm-wise-or-foolish/738278.md?page=20)