# Are the following facts both true \[Holocaust denial and WTC denial\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 18, 2018, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-following-facts-both-true-holocaust-denial-and-wtc-denial/823180 "2018-10-18T23:29:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-following-facts-both-true-holocaust-denial-and-wtc-denial/823180/21 "2018-10-19T01:31:24Z")
> [@mustang19](#): > > It would mean wtc refutes holocaust? Or maybe the other way around!! ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-following-facts-both-true-holocaust-denial-and-wtc-denial/823180/22 "2018-10-19T01:31:54Z")
> [@mustang19](#): > > If you accept or reject both claims youre a holocaust denier You have not explained why. All you have posted so far is a bunch of non sequiturs. You need to start explaining what you are claiming, and how that makes your case. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-following-facts-both-true-holocaust-denial-and-wtc-denial/823180/23 "2018-10-19T01:33:15Z")
> [@mustang19](#): > > Anyone who believes wtc is a holocaust denier Can you explain how the temperature inside the buildings during the 9/11 attacks refutes the Holocaust? ---
**Author:** ![mustang19](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e19adc/32.png) [@mustang19](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mustang19)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-following-facts-both-true-holocaust-denial-and-wtc-denial/823180/24 "2018-10-19T01:33:57Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Can you explain how the temperature inside the buildings during the 9/11 attacks refutes the Holocaust? Idk. Is that really your objection? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-following-facts-both-true-holocaust-denial-and-wtc-denial/823180/25 "2018-10-19T01:35:21Z")
> [@mustang19](#): > > [The Druggist of Auschwitz: A Documentary Novel - Dieter Schlesak - Google Books](https://books.google.com/books?id=ndNdZuOH4YMC&pg=PA273&lpg=PA273&dq=%22brought+the+fire+in+the+ovens+up+to+1800%22&source=bl&ots=QT0tZH5M1y&sig=5GtCUoPL53bXTADmnGSEfaNqf-I&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiB6PPhqZHeAhUT_1QKHf-rAGcQ6AEwAHoECAAQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22brought%20the%20fire%20in%20the%20ovens%20up%20to%201800%22&f=false) > > [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](http://i.imgur.com/UfiRvCL.jpg) > > If you disagree youre a holocaust denier For what it’s worth, _The Druggist of Auschwitz_ is a historical fiction novel, not a scientific treatise. It is not a definitive source of anything that happened in the concentration camps. The author was eleven years old at the end of the war. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-following-facts-both-true-holocaust-denial-and-wtc-denial/823180/26 "2018-10-19T01:35:24Z")
> [@mustang19](#): > > Idk. Is that really your objection? The objection is that you are not making any sense at all. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-following-facts-both-true-holocaust-denial-and-wtc-denial/823180/27 "2018-10-19T01:36:57Z")
> [@mustang19](#): > > Idk. Is that really your objection? You said: > [@](#): > > Anyone who believes wtc is a holocaust denier I’m trying to follow your logic. Which fact about wtc do I need to believe in order to be a Holocaust denier? ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-following-facts-both-true-holocaust-denial-and-wtc-denial/823180/28 "2018-10-19T01:49:28Z")
Off to the Pit. Have fun. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-following-facts-both-true-holocaust-denial-and-wtc-denial/823180/29 "2018-10-19T01:49:42Z")
> [@mustang19](#): > > Idk. Is that really your objection? Okay, I’ll bite. Do you accept that the WTC was brought down by hijacked jets in a terrorist attack? Do you believe that Hitler and the Nazis planned and executed the mass murder of Jews in Europe, resulting in several million murdered Jews? ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-following-facts-both-true-holocaust-denial-and-wtc-denial/823180/30 "2018-10-19T01:50:56Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Okay, I’ll bite. > > Do you accept that the WTC was brought down by hijacked jets in a terrorist attack? > > Do you believe that Hitler and the Nazis planned and executed the mass murder of Jews in Europe, resulting in several million murdered Jews? You are making it too complicated. You are never going to get answers to those questions, you know that. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-following-facts-both-true-holocaust-denial-and-wtc-denial/823180/31 "2018-10-19T01:52:38Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > Off to the Pit. Have fun. Thank you - you’ve saved us the time of opening another thread. **mustang19** , you sir are an idiot with delusions of adequacy. Either that or you’re off your meds. ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-following-facts-both-true-holocaust-denial-and-wtc-denial/823180/32 "2018-10-19T02:03:04Z")
It’s the chewbacca defence. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-following-facts-both-true-holocaust-denial-and-wtc-denial/823180/33 "2018-10-19T02:04:59Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > Off to the Pit. Have fun. I edited the title to let folks know what they’re in for. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-following-facts-both-true-holocaust-denial-and-wtc-denial/823180/34 "2018-10-19T02:07:07Z")
What the everloving fuck is this thread about? ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-following-facts-both-true-holocaust-denial-and-wtc-denial/823180/35 "2018-10-19T02:07:29Z")
Fire is hot. Another fire is hotter. Therefore, six million jews never died. I can’t wait to tell my great-uncle. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-following-facts-both-true-holocaust-denial-and-wtc-denial/823180/36 "2018-10-19T02:09:25Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > I edited the title to let folks know what they’re in for. The edit doesn’t even _begin_ to hint at what they’re in for. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-following-facts-both-true-holocaust-denial-and-wtc-denial/823180/37 "2018-10-19T02:12:52Z")
I still have no idea what I’m in for, and I read the whole thing twice! ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-following-facts-both-true-holocaust-denial-and-wtc-denial/823180/38 "2018-10-19T02:17:01Z")
I have to give **mustang19** credit where credit is due. He may be a loon, but he’s an original loon. Usually WTC deniers are also Holocaust deniers. He’s the first I’ve seen do this kind of switcheroo. Of course, it will take him some time to reveal what the connection is (if he ever does). Add in his bizarre financial theories and he’s definitely sui generis. Do you think maybe he has some ideas about pyramids or aliens too? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-following-facts-both-true-holocaust-denial-and-wtc-denial/823180/39 "2018-10-19T02:19:49Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > I have to give **mustang19** credit where credit is due. He may be a loon, but he’s an original loon. Usually WTC deniers are also Holocaust deniers. He’s the first I’ve seen do this kind of switcheroo. Of course, it will take him some time to reveal what the connection is (if he ever does). Add in his bizarre financial theories and he’s definitely sui generis. Do you think maybe he has some ideas about pyramids or aliens too? I suspect he’s a 9/11 “truther”, and trying to use the (justified) widespread revulsion for Holocaust denial to somehow benefit his cause of revealing the “truth” of 9/11. ---
**Author:** ![Reindeer\_Flotilla](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reindeer_flotilla/32/3024_2.png) [@Reindeer\_Flotilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reindeer_Flotilla)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-following-facts-both-true-holocaust-denial-and-wtc-denial/823180/40 "2018-10-19T02:21:21Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > I have to give **mustang19** credit where credit is due. He may be a loon, but he’s an original loon. Usually WTC deniers are also Holocaust deniers. He’s the first I’ve seen do this kind of switcheroo. Of course, it will take him some time to reveal what the connection is (if he ever does). Add in his bizarre financial theories and he’s definitely sui generis. Do you think maybe he has some ideas about pyramids or aliens too? You’re forgetting the infinite money involved. Oh, and in before the ban. Yay me! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-following-facts-both-true-holocaust-denial-and-wtc-denial/823180.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-following-facts-both-true-holocaust-denial-and-wtc-denial/823180.md?page=3)