# Are the "Star Wars" movies set in our Universe? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 9, 2019, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-star-wars-movies-set-in-our-universe/839947 "2019-09-09T18:38:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![sps49sd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@sps49sd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sps49sd)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-star-wars-movies-set-in-our-universe/839947/41 "2019-09-11T03:15:18Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > I forgot that bit. > > So Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Princess Leia and “Ben” Kenobi are “humanoids”, but not humans? And they are not, technically, speaking English? Luke et al. are not human, but George Lucas had to settle forusing humans to portray them. The $7B for which he sold the franchise is to fulfill a secret clause in the sale agreement allowing Lucas to reshoot the film with actors to whom the original characters are distant ancestors. The first movie will be titled Disney’s Descendants IV: A New Re-release. ---
**Author:** ![kirkrapine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7ea924/32.png) [@kirkrapine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kirkrapine)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-star-wars-movies-set-in-our-universe/839947/42 "2019-09-11T06:06:22Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > I forgot that bit. > > So Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Princess Leia and “Ben” Kenobi are “humanoids”, but not humans? And they are not, technically, speaking English? [And what about the Millennium Falcon?](https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/890:_Etymology) ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-star-wars-movies-set-in-our-universe/839947/43 "2019-09-11T11:08:42Z")
Han’s ship is named after a well-known small, fast-flying predator: That’s what matters. The creature it was named after wasn’t a _Falco perigrinus_, but that’s irrelevant. ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-star-wars-movies-set-in-our-universe/839947/44 "2019-09-11T11:17:13Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > This raises a lot of questions. It might have been more prudent for them to be humanoid, but since it’s non-movie, it’s not official and can be disregarded at one’s personal discretion. If one accepts the _Star Wars_ humanoids as being “human”, then that surely means that they are related to the humans on Earth. The logical conclusion of that would be that the _Star Wars_ universe is not the same as our Universe, since science shows that humans on Earth developed from bipedal apes as part an evolutionary process taking millions of years, and not as a space colony of some distant intergalactic species of humans. > > Do the _Star Wars_ humans/humanoids have a species name? A home planet? What script/alphabet system does the Galactic Basic language use? Starseeding is still a viable option here, perhaps using native genetic material to make a human in the new world, It would change what it is to be ‘human’, or perhaps even guiding evolution towards it though all those animals. Or we could just have a God who likes to make humans everywhere. ---
**Author:** ![GESancMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gesancman/32/2923_2.png) [@GESancMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GESancMan)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-star-wars-movies-set-in-our-universe/839947/45 "2019-09-11T13:32:13Z")
> [@shstrang98](#): > > During the pod racing scene in Phantom Menace the play by play called Anakin 'Human." > > Its pathetic that I remember that. And before the race, doesn’t Anakin say “I’m the only human who can do it”? ---
**Author:** ![erysichthon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d07c76/32.png) [@erysichthon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erysichthon)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-star-wars-movies-set-in-our-universe/839947/46 "2019-09-14T17:35:54Z")
I’m mildly surprised that nobody has mentioned the [pod from _2001: A Space Odyssey_ in Watto’s junkyard](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/EVA_Pod). That _could_ be taken as an indication that the series is not only in our universe, it’s post-2001. Of course, other explanations are possible, such as “it fell into a wormhole and ended up in another galaxy in the distant past,” or “it’s a visual Easter egg and doesn’t mean anything.” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-star-wars-movies-set-in-our-universe/839947/47 "2019-09-14T21:44:09Z")
> [@erysichthon](#): > > … or “it’s a visual Easter egg and doesn’t mean anything.” 😃 that ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-star-wars-movies-set-in-our-universe/839947/48 "2019-09-14T21:50:56Z")
I am confident that nowhere in our universe can mortals travel at the speed of light. And ‘light speed’ is even faster than just c, otherwise they’d need cryogenic chambers to even get to one other planet in another solar system nevermind an inhabitable world. ---
**Author:** ![DorkVader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/73ab20/32.png) [@DorkVader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DorkVader)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-star-wars-movies-set-in-our-universe/839947/49 "2019-09-15T01:08:31Z")
I can’t believe nobody, including me, has remembered or mentioned Speilberg’s E.T.s having a delegation of representatives in the Galactic Senate as shown in The Phantom Menace, so yep, it is canonically true that Star Wars is in our universe and Speilberg’s universe is the same as Lucas’ universe. As for the pod in watto’s junkyard, I recall seeing something…will report back when or if I can find the explanation again ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-star-wars-movies-set-in-our-universe/839947/50 "2019-09-15T01:14:48Z")
> [@DorkVader](#): > > I can’t believe nobody, including me, has remembered or mentioned Speilberg’s E.T.s having a delegation of representatives in the Galactic Senate as shown in The Phantom Menace, That’s because I have carefully-constructed mental blocks regarding the existence of Episodes 1-3. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![erysichthon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d07c76/32.png) [@erysichthon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erysichthon)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-star-wars-movies-set-in-our-universe/839947/51 "2019-09-15T01:34:25Z")
> [@DorkVader](#): > > I can’t believe nobody, including me, has remembered or mentioned Speilberg’s E.T.s having a delegation of representatives in the Galactic Senate as shown in The Phantom Menace, so yep, it is canonically true that Star Wars is in our universe and Speilberg’s universe is the same as Lucas’ universe. Oh, I definitely remember the E.T. delegation frantically waving their arms in their levitating Galactic Senate whatchamacallit. I just don’t like thinking about them. To me, their presence feels like an in-joke between Lucas and Spielberg. However, I understand they’re mentioned (and named) in some of the Star Wars books, so you have a good point here. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-star-wars-movies-set-in-our-universe/839947/52 "2019-09-15T04:43:03Z")
> [@erysichthon](#): > > Oh, I definitely remember the E.T. delegation frantically waving their arms in their levitating Galactic Senate whatchamacallit. I just don’t like thinking about them. To me, their presence feels like an in-joke between Lucas and Spielberg. > > However, I understand they’re mentioned (and named) in some of the Star Wars books, so you have a good point here. So perhaps the galaxy is not that far away and it wasn’t that long ago. Any Kingdom of the Crystal Skull references in SW canon to really kill my childhood off? ---
**Author:** ![sps49sd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@sps49sd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sps49sd)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-star-wars-movies-set-in-our-universe/839947/53 "2019-09-15T04:54:21Z")
> [@erysichthon](#): > > I’m mildly surprised that nobody has mentioned the [pod from _2001: A Space Odyssey_ in Watto’s junkyard](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/EVA_Pod)… It was the originalPod Racer. ---
**Author:** ![Trancephalic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trancephalic/32/380_2.png) [@Trancephalic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trancephalic)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-star-wars-movies-set-in-our-universe/839947/54 "2019-09-15T05:03:23Z")
My god, it’s full of sequels ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-star-wars-movies-set-in-our-universe/839947/55 "2019-09-15T16:32:19Z")
And yet, in E. T.'s universe, _Star Wars_ is a fictional story: There’s a trick-or-treating scene in _E. T._, where we see a little kid dressed up as Yoda. ---
**Author:** ![eburacum45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eburacum45/32/8690_2.png) [@eburacum45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eburacum45)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-star-wars-movies-set-in-our-universe/839947/56 "2019-09-15T17:11:58Z")
I remember the year 2001, and there wasn’t any Mission to Jupiter; so the _Discovery_ Pod exists in a different universe to this one. ---
**Author:** ![DorkVader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/73ab20/32.png) [@DorkVader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DorkVader)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2019, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-star-wars-movies-set-in-our-universe/839947/57 "2019-09-16T22:41:15Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > So perhaps the galaxy is not that far away and it wasn’t that long ago. > > Any Kingdom of the Crystal Skull references in SW canon to really kill my childhood off? Well, there’s [this](http://blog.tickets2you.com/7-easter-eggs-that-cross-over-in-star-wars-and-indiana-jones/), which seems to be a blog page that appears to pretty comprehensively list all the star wars easter eggs linking the two in the Indiana Jones movies, plus one Easter Egg from Star Wars the Clone Wars animated series featuring the Ark of the Covenant, soooo, yeah, sssssoooorrrryyyyy. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-star-wars-movies-set-in-our-universe/839947/58 "2019-09-17T05:25:28Z")
> [@DorkVader](#): > > Well, there’s [this](http://blog.tickets2you.com/7-easter-eggs-that-cross-over-in-star-wars-and-indiana-jones/), which seems to be a blog page that appears to pretty comprehensively list all the star wars easter eggs linking the two in the Indiana Jones movies, plus one Easter Egg from Star Wars the Clone Wars animated series featuring the Ark of the Covenant, soooo, yeah, sssssoooorrrryyyyy. I’d forgotten that [C-3P0 and R2-D2 appeared in the Egyptian hieroglyphs](https://www.nextavenue.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Finding-a-Different-Kind-of-Easter-Egg-750x483.jpg) in _Raiders of the Lost Ark_! It would be great if, in the next _Alien vs Predator_ movie, on the Predator’s trophy wall there was a fedora and a whip, along with Boba Fett’s helmet, to tie it all together. ---
**Author:** ![DorkVader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/73ab20/32.png) [@DorkVader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DorkVader)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-star-wars-movies-set-in-our-universe/839947/59 "2019-09-17T08:26:44Z")
> [@erysichthon](#): > > Oh, I definitely remember the E.T. delegation frantically waving their arms in their levitating Galactic Senate whatchamacallit. I just don’t like thinking about them. To me, their presence feels like an in-joke between Lucas and Spielberg. > > However, I understand they’re mentioned (and named) in some of the Star Wars books, so you have a good point here. Actually, the in-joke between Lucas and Speilberg is pretty spot on. Very roughly, my understanding is that Speilberg said something to Lucas about it, and boom there they were. I’ll have to see if I can dig up the article where I saw that again. Joke or not, the “home home” line from E.T. and the shot of them in the Galactic Senate pretty much canonicly ties them into one world from both directions. **Walken** , that would be awesome, and funny. It could also give origin to the xenomorphs as a weapon of some sort from the Youghzong Vong war (did I spell that right?) and explain why there are humans in a galaxy long ago and far far away ---
**Author:** ![DorkVader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/73ab20/32.png) [@DorkVader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DorkVader)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-star-wars-movies-set-in-our-universe/839947/60 "2019-09-17T08:30:37Z")
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