# Are ther any known relatives of Hitler, Mussolini or Stalin?
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-ther-any-known-relatives-of-hitler-mussolini-or-stalin/390168
**Category:** Factual Questions
**Created:** [January 30, 2007, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-ther-any-known-relatives-of-hitler-mussolini-or-stalin/390168 "2007-01-30T21:25:18Z")
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### Author:  [@Dr.nuggets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.nuggets)
#### Post date: [January 30, 2007, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-ther-any-known-relatives-of-hitler-mussolini-or-stalin/390168/1 "2007-01-30T21:25:18Z")
i wasting away my life the other dya by just thinking about the most random thoughts. and i wondered if there are any relatives of infamous dictators and what kind of hell the would go through each day.
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### Author:  [@SkeptiJess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkeptiJess)
#### Post date: [January 30, 2007, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-ther-any-known-relatives-of-hitler-mussolini-or-stalin/390168/2 "2007-01-30T21:32:17Z")
I know Stalin had a daughter who defected to the U.S. years ago. She had a child, too, whom I believe was born after she came to the U.S.
Mussolini had kids, too. I believe one of them was an actor or actress.
Hitler had no direct descendents.
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### Author:  [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)
#### Post date: [January 30, 2007, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-ther-any-known-relatives-of-hitler-mussolini-or-stalin/390168/3 "2007-01-30T21:33:41Z")
Of the top of my head, didn’t a decendent of Mussolini run for the Italian Assembly recently?
Yes she did. An unfortunately a search here at work led me to some less than savory web sites.
> **[Mussolini's granddaughter appeals exclusion from election | CBC News](https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/mussolini-s-granddaughter-appeals-exclusion-from-election-1.550576)**
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> Granddaughter of Mussolini appeals ruling that bars her from running in election, after a hunger strike that included daily cappucinos.
This isn’t unsavory, by the way. Except for being Canadian.
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### Author:  [@SkeptiJess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkeptiJess)
#### Post date: [January 30, 2007, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-ther-any-known-relatives-of-hitler-mussolini-or-stalin/390168/4 "2007-01-30T21:50:51Z")
I misremembered the actor thing – I was thinking of [Vittorio Mussolini](http://www.trivia-library.com/a/children-of-famous-parents-italian-dictator-benito-mussolini.htm), who was a film critic, producer and director.
Stalin’s daughter’s name was [Svetlana Alliluyeva](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svetlana_Alliluyeva). She did have the one daughter I remembered, post defection. And she had a couple of kids before she defected, too. Stalin had [two sons](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin), in addition to Svetlana.
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### Author:  [@bonzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bonzer)
#### Post date: [January 30, 2007, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-ther-any-known-relatives-of-hitler-mussolini-or-stalin/390168/5 "2007-01-30T21:52:37Z")
[This old thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=368948) discusses Hitler’s relatives at some length and there’s [a Cecil column](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/050211.html) on the subject.
Romano Mussolini, the son who was a jazz musician and father of Alessandra, [only died just last year](http://arts.guardian.co.uk/news/obituary/0,,1704836,00.html).
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### Author:  [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)
#### Post date: [January 30, 2007, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-ther-any-known-relatives-of-hitler-mussolini-or-stalin/390168/6 "2007-01-30T22:14:07Z")
Alessandra Mussolini
[http://vl.altermedia.info/images/Alessandra%20Mussolini.jpg](http://vl.altermedia.info/images/Alessandra%20Mussolini.jpg)
Hitler left illegitimate kids. For the sake of people who don’t share in Adolf’s sins, please consider letting that drop.
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### Author:  [@Malienation](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malienation)
#### Post date: [January 30, 2007, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-ther-any-known-relatives-of-hitler-mussolini-or-stalin/390168/7 "2007-01-30T22:21:14Z")
You didn’t ask about Sadaam Hussein, but AFAIK he’s got 2 daughters.
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### Author:  [@williambaskerville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/williambaskerville)
#### Post date: [January 30, 2007, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-ther-any-known-relatives-of-hitler-mussolini-or-stalin/390168/8 "2007-01-30T22:30:43Z")
[QUOTE=Bosda Di’Chi of Tricor]
Hitler left illegitimate kids.
[/QUOTE]
You what, know ? Is this Hitler left illegitmate kids in an urban legend sense, or did I miss something ?
On the OP, this is Adolf Hitler’s grand nephew, son of William Patrick Hitler :-
> **[Officer Down Memorial Page (ODMP)](http://www.odmp.org/officer.php?oid=12936)**
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> The Officer Down Memorial Page (ODMP) is dedicated to remembering all law enforcement officers who have fallen in the line of duty.
I believe he’s also on an official US government memorial, commerating Treasury agents who died on duty. (Yes, I did wonder about whether it was appropriate to violate his anonymity, but that page is linked from William Hitler’s wikipedia page :- it’s not much of a secret anymore).
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### Author:  [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)
#### Post date: [January 30, 2007, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-ther-any-known-relatives-of-hitler-mussolini-or-stalin/390168/9 "2007-01-30T22:41:52Z")
I don’t know if it’s true, but I’ve hear that before WWII there were 2 dozen Hitlers in the NYC phone book. After the war there were none.
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### Author:  [@Alive\_At\_Both\_Ends](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alive_At_Both_Ends)
#### Post date: [January 30, 2007, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-ther-any-known-relatives-of-hitler-mussolini-or-stalin/390168/10 "2007-01-30T22:48:23Z")
[QUOTE=Bosda Di’Chi of Tricor]
Hitler left illegitimate kids.
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Cite?
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### Author:  [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)
#### Post date: [January 30, 2007, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-ther-any-known-relatives-of-hitler-mussolini-or-stalin/390168/11 "2007-01-30T23:03:32Z")
Aside from odd claims that Adolf Hitler sired any children,(which is, itself, a factual claim that can be addressed as such), this thread seeks actual facts.
I’m sending it to **General Questions**.
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### Author:  [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)
#### Post date: [January 30, 2007, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-ther-any-known-relatives-of-hitler-mussolini-or-stalin/390168/12 "2007-01-30T23:22:52Z")
My wife is a rather close relative to Mussolini’s former Son in law who married Mussolini’s oldest daughter and was later executed. My wife has the same maiden name.
> **[Galeazzo Ciano](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galeazzo_Ciano)**
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> Gian Galeazzo Ciano, 2nd Count of Cortellazzo and Buccari (/ˈtʃɑːnoʊ/ CHAH-noh, .mw-parser-output .IPA-label-small{font-size:85%}.mw-parser-output .references .IPA-label-small,.mw-parser-output .infobox .IPA-label-small,.mw-parser-output .navbox .IPA-label-small{font-size:100%}Italian: \[ɡaleˈattso ˈtʃaːno\]; 18 March 1903 – 11 January 1944) was an Italian diplomat and politician who served as Foreign Minister in the government of his father-in-law, Benito Mussolini, from 1936 until 1943. During ...
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### Author:  [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2007, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-ther-any-known-relatives-of-hitler-mussolini-or-stalin/390168/13 "2007-01-31T13:03:09Z")
I can’t google for a cite at work.
I’ll need to address this later.
As I recall, though, one child was sired during WW1.
He was French.
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### Author:  [@Kizarvexius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kizarvexius)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2007, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-ther-any-known-relatives-of-hitler-mussolini-or-stalin/390168/14 "2007-01-31T15:06:49Z")
I’ve read one or two novels that included Hitler’s illegitimate offspring from WWI, but I’ve never heard of it being treated as a fact.
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### Author:  [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2007, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-ther-any-known-relatives-of-hitler-mussolini-or-stalin/390168/15 "2007-01-31T18:27:32Z")
It isn’t. Hitler left no kids, legitimate or otherwise, from all I’ve read.
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### Author:  [@bonzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bonzer)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2007, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-ther-any-known-relatives-of-hitler-mussolini-or-stalin/390168/16 "2007-01-31T18:53:04Z")
[QUOTE=Bosda Di’Chi of Tricor]
As I recall, though, one child was sired during WW1.
He was French.
[/QUOTE]
You’re presumably thinking of the claims by and on behalf of [Jean-Marie Loret](http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,912018,00.html). The [entry on him](http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Loret) in the German version of Wikipedia has a fair amount of detail.
There really doesn’t appear much evidence at all and virtually nobody has been convinced. Kershaw, for instance, dismisses the story in a footnote (_Hitler 1889-1936: Hubris_, Penguin, 1998, p635, n116) in terms of its “extreme unlikeliness”.
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### Author:  [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2007, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-ther-any-known-relatives-of-hitler-mussolini-or-stalin/390168/17 "2007-01-31T19:20:42Z")
According to Wiki Mussolini’s grandaughter is a openly fascist, anti-gay, member of the European parliment. It doesn’t directly quote her as anti-semtic, but it’s implied. what a world.
> **[Alessandra Mussolini](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alessandra_Mussolini)**
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> Alessandra Mussolini (born 30 December 1962) is an Italian politician, the granddaughter of Benito Mussolini, and a former actress, singer, and model. She currently serves as a Member of the European Parliament for Forza Italia. In 2004, she became the first woman to lead a political party in Italy. She was a member of the Chamber of Deputies from 2008 to 2013 and the Italian Senate from 2013 to 2014 where she was elected under The People of Freedom which is now part of Forza Itali She was the ...
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### Author:  [@According\_to\_Pliny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/According_to_Pliny)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2007, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-ther-any-known-relatives-of-hitler-mussolini-or-stalin/390168/18 "2007-01-31T19:37:03Z")
And what of the Japanese leaders?
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### Author:  [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2007, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-ther-any-known-relatives-of-hitler-mussolini-or-stalin/390168/19 "2007-01-31T21:21:51Z")
[QUOTE=According to Pliny]
And what of the Japanese leaders?
[/QUOTE]
Well, it’s not hard to find out information about Hirohito’s family. Here’s an article about Tojo’s granddaughter and her family:
[http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Japan/GK12Dh04.html](http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Japan/GK12Dh04.html)
> [@](#):
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> Tojo claims her family name “was untouchable for 50 years”, but the family appears to have prospered and wielded power in corporate, military and public affairs realms. The general’s second son, Teruo Tojo, is a former vice president of Mitsubishi Heavy Industries and chairman of Mitsubishi Motors who designed aircraft during and after the war. Youngest son Toshio was a major general in the Air Self-Defense Forces. Daughter Mitsue married Shigeru Sugiyama, who became head of Japan’s Ground Self-Defense Force. Tojo says her husband was a TV producer at state broadcaster NHK for more than 30 years before becoming a university teacher, and her younger brother, Takayuki, is a former president of Japan Victor in Germany.
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> Tojo quit Meiji Gakuin University in her twenties to marry, and had four children. One of her daughters today lives in the US and is married to an American who works for Boeing Corp. Tojo harbors little of the obvious anti-American sentiment of some on the right in Japan: when told recently by her distraught daughter that her son-in-law would soon be going to Iraq to work, Tojo told her it couldn’t be helped because “one had to defend one’s country”.
Prince Konoe has at least two living grandsons. The older grandson is Morihiro Hosokawa, who was himself Prime Minister of Japan in 1993-94, until he resigned due to personal scandal. The younger is Konoe Tadateru, who married the current Emperor’s cousin, and was the vice president of the Japanese Red Cross. They have one son.
Which other Japanese leaders are you curious about?
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### Author:  [@Mr.Nuggets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nuggets)
#### Post date: [February 2, 2007, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-ther-any-known-relatives-of-hitler-mussolini-or-stalin/390168/20 "2007-02-02T12:33:45Z")
Stalin also had a son named Yakov. Stalin said he would arrest all families of Soviet POWs because only “malicious traitors” would get captured by the Nazis. But then Yakov was arrested. The Nazis offered a prisoner exchange, only for Stalin to say “I have no son Yakov.”
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