# Are there any adventure wargames?

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [November 20, 2015, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-adventure-wargames/738069 "2015-11-20T12:27:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2015, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-adventure-wargames/738069/1 "2015-11-20T12:27:26Z")

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In the late 80s-early 90s there was a game for the Mac where you controlled a medium-sized band of warriors in a fantasy setting exploring locations in the world for treasure etc. Any similar games to that?

The major thing two things I’d like is:

– Storyline and cool-sounding treasure/quests is a major component.  
– The band of adventurers can’t be too small, like d+d-style party-based games, since that generally involves fiddling too much with the party’s equipment and skills. NTTAWWT but there are plenty of those out there already. Worrying about the individual units’ health, size, equipment, and experience is fine.

I don’t _necessarily_ want to control a city.

I _definitely_ don’t want to worry about city improvements, or have the game \*boards \* be mission-based like the original Warcrafts (although individual missions on one big board is fine.)

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2015, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-adventure-wargames/738069/2 "2015-11-20T23:22:48Z")

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Do you think you could figure out the name of the game you’re talking about? One way of finding these types of games would be to look for games that people say are similar to the one you describe.

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**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2015, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-adventure-wargames/738069/3 "2015-11-21T00:24:06Z")

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Hmm…

I’d recommend maybe checking out something like the Banner Saga. You might also like stuff like Heroes Of Might and Magic. V and VI feature a lot of story, though there is some minor city management involved.

If you could remember anything else about the game you’re talking about we could probably find out what it is and help you better.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2015, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-adventure-wargames/738069/4 "2015-11-21T00:30:05Z")

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Kings Bounty The Legend might be worth a try

https://store.steampowered.com/widget/25900

> **[Game - King's Bounty: The Legend](https://www.fulqrumpublishing.com/game/546-king-s-bounty-the-legend)**
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> King's Bounty: The Legend is a Real-time / Turn-based Strategy with RPG elements. In a fairy tale fantasy world of fearless knights, evil mages, wise kings and beautiful princesses the player controls a hero. Leading their character through the game...

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**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2015, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-adventure-wargames/738069/5 "2015-11-21T08:55:41Z")

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Try [Battle for Wesnoth](http://www.wesnoth.org/) many of the mainline campaigns have some of the features you’re after and I think some of the User Made Campagins sound like they’re exactly what you’re looking for (although I haven’t tried any yet - still finishing the mainline ones).

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**Author:** ![Dave\_Hartwick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@Dave\_Hartwick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Hartwick)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2015, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-adventure-wargames/738069/6 "2015-11-22T06:06:54Z")

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Ludovic, do you prefer turn based or real time battles?

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2015, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-adventure-wargames/738069/7 "2015-11-22T12:31:18Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Do you think you could figure out the name of the game you’re talking about? One way of finding these types of games would be to look for games that people say are similar to the one you describe.

I don’t remember any more information than this, and even the info I described is shaky. I only remember playing it in '93 and it having graphics nearly as good as Call to Power’s (oh yeah, I think it was also square or hex based like Civ.) You wander around the surface of the fantasy “earth” collecting allies, and then exploring sites and fighting enemies, and I THINK gaining treasures and going on quests.

> [@Dave\_Hartwick](#):
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> Ludovic, do you prefer turn based or real time battles?

Definitely turn based. I also prefer discrete areas (squares or hexes) to more open movement, but despite this, the game I’ve put the most hours into is Medieval II: Total War.

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**Author:** ![Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrogance_ex_machina/32/192_2.png) [@Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arrogance_Ex_Machina)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2015, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-adventure-wargames/738069/8 "2015-11-22T12:58:15Z")

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Sounds like you should like the aforementioned King’s Bounty -series then. Start either from the oldest (King’s Bounty: the Legend) or from Armored Princess, the newest isn’t as good.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2015, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-adventure-wargames/738069/9 "2015-11-22T16:27:48Z")

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Thanks: the original KB may have been what I played. Screenshots of it on Google look familar. I may look for some earlier versions of it.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2016, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-adventure-wargames/738069/10 "2016-12-31T19:20:42Z")

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Update: I’ve found a _board_ game that has the feel of what I was looking for: Mage Knight. There is a solo version and it replicates the feel of being a leader leading a medium-sized band of followers across country and into the unknown looking for treasure, monsters, and fame. It also is fairly brightly colored and not as grimdark as games have been for the past 20 or so years. The only disappoint so far is that the art is 15% too Japanese and thus does not perfectly recreate the feel of old school RPGs but not everything can be perfect.

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**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2016, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-adventure-wargames/738069/11 "2016-12-31T20:47:16Z")

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Battle Brothers seems to be this kind of idea, but probably a bit too early access still.

Mount & Blade is solid if you’re willing to lose the fantasy part.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2016, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-adventure-wargames/738069/12 "2016-12-31T22:27:36Z")

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It’s old enough now that it might be tough to run on modern computers, but it sounds like _Myth II_ might be similar to what you’d like. It is one-mission-at-a-time-in-order, which it sounds like you don’t want, but it hits all of the other buttons: You control a small number of units, you can’t produce more (though sometimes you can rescue reinforcements), the units get better with experience but in subtle ways that you don’t need to pay attention to, and so on. The storyline is great, and if you can get it to run, it looks amazing on modern computers. One nice feature of it that I haven’t seen in other RTS or RTT games is that if your units survive, you get the same ones (with all of their accumulated experience) in subsequent missions (so, for instance, if a mission calls for eight bowmen, you’ll have the eight most-experienced living bowmen you’ve ever used, but if in your last mission you were careless and lost them all, you’ll have eight green newbies plucking your yew).

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**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2016, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-adventure-wargames/738069/13 "2016-12-31T23:49:59Z")

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Oh God, Myth II was awesome. Is awesome, whatever.

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**Author:** ![DeptfordX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DeptfordX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeptfordX)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2016, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-adventure-wargames/738069/14 "2016-12-31T23:54:02Z")

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**King Arthur** the Role Playing Wargame.

If you’re quick available at cup of coffee prices in the Steam Xmas Sale.

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**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2017, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-adventure-wargames/738069/15 "2017-01-01T09:18:42Z")

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> [@Palooka](#):
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> Battle Brothers seems to be this kind of idea, but probably a bit too early access still.
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> Mount & Blade is solid if you’re willing to lose the fantasy part.

I was going to suggest Mount & Blade Warband. Start off as one main person, and acquire an army, amass a fortune, take over cities, be a merchant, be an outlaw, become King, whatever floats your boat!
