# Are there any examples of professional boxers getting into fights with regular people? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 25, 2011, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-examples-of-professional-boxers-getting-into-fights-with-regular-people/568929 "2011-01-25T16:14:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![fighter1985](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a6a055/32.png) [@fighter1985](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fighter1985)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-examples-of-professional-boxers-getting-into-fights-with-regular-people/568929/121 "2012-10-26T16:08:22Z")
> [@rogerbox](#): > > This is just wrong. Unless the big guy hits like he can’t punch through a wet paper bag, no one but genetic freaks can remain conscious after a blinside full punch to the jaw. It isn’t a matter of toughness or training at that point. When your brain sloshes arounnd like a pinball against your skull, you are knocked out, unless the hypothetical big dude is an utter sissy. > > And a boxer doesn’t have a spider sense from someone punching him on the jaw from his blind spot. well said. Youre one of a select few who actually have some sense on here. I guess im a genetic freak tho { or just lucky } cos I was king hit from behind on the chin and got up literally in a second and knew I copped a cheap shot as I was going down. Put my hands in front of me so I wouldnt land face first on the concrete. A scrap happened later and I ended up beating him. I guess if he were that smart that second it took me to get up when I actually did he should have followed up straight away. That was his mindset tho and that is very important in fights. One’s mindset. You must think and act fast. Or smart. ---
**Author:** ![fighter1985](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a6a055/32.png) [@fighter1985](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fighter1985)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-examples-of-professional-boxers-getting-into-fights-with-regular-people/568929/122 "2012-10-26T16:11:00Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > “Real men” and men with dignity and respect don’t engage in street fights at all. here we go. Another nerd who knows it all. Let me guess, a real man like you who just saw his family member get hit from behind wouldnt engage in a street fight. Yeah, cos you got dignity and are a real man. Nah thats not it, cos youre a gutless pussy. If youre going to be smart, come with more next time internet geek. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Slant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c57346/32.png) [@Mr.Slant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Slant)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-examples-of-professional-boxers-getting-into-fights-with-regular-people/568929/123 "2012-10-26T16:13:16Z")
> [@fighter1985](#): > > a real man like you who just saw his family member wouldnt engage in a street fight I’m supposed to get into a fight every time I see a family member? “Sorry, dad, I have to hit you now!” ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-examples-of-professional-boxers-getting-into-fights-with-regular-people/568929/124 "2012-10-26T16:13:36Z")
> [@fighter1985](#): > > here we go. Another nerd who knows it all. Let me guess, a real man like you who just saw his family member get hit from behind wouldnt engage in a street fight. Yeah, cos you got dignity and are a real man. Nah thats not it, cos youre a gutless pussy. If youre going to be smart, come with more next time internet geek. I don’t think the OP meant fights on the internet. ---
**Author:** ![fighter1985](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a6a055/32.png) [@fighter1985](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fighter1985)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-examples-of-professional-boxers-getting-into-fights-with-regular-people/568929/125 "2012-10-26T16:15:57Z")
If mayweather were to fight a 6 ft 6 guy weighing 270 pounds, if the big guy can fight, he’d more often than not win. With that much height and weight doesnt matter if youre a world champion or not. He can grab you, wrestle you to the ground, and should be able to take a hit. Then again if mayweather lands flush on the chin { if he can reach him, punching that high he would lose some power } he could knock him out. He may not. Every fight is different as are people. Some can take punches, some can not. On one day you may get floored one punch, on another you may be able to with stand 20 punches. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-examples-of-professional-boxers-getting-into-fights-with-regular-people/568929/126 "2012-10-26T16:18:25Z")
> [@fighter1985](#): > > here we go. Another nerd who knows it all. Let me guess, a real man like you who just saw his family member get hit from behind wouldnt engage in a street fight. Yeah, cos you got dignity and are a real man. Nah thats not it, cos youre a gutless pussy. If youre going to be smart, come with more next time internet geek. So, wait, if I see one of my family members attacked, I’m supposed to fight with “dignity and respect” is that what I’m hearing? I’m using any and all weapons available. I don’t particularly care. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-examples-of-professional-boxers-getting-into-fights-with-regular-people/568929/127 "2012-10-26T16:20:31Z")
Yeah, if it’s actual self defense, then I see no problem with running over the guy with a truck. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Slant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c57346/32.png) [@Mr.Slant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Slant)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-examples-of-professional-boxers-getting-into-fights-with-regular-people/568929/128 "2012-10-26T16:21:58Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Yeah, if it’s actual self defense, then I see no problem with running over the guy with a truck. I’ll point out that you’re probably out of danger if you can get into a running truck and get the doors locked. At the least, you should probably call the cops to let them sort it out. Hard to argue self-defense running over a guy with a truck. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-examples-of-professional-boxers-getting-into-fights-with-regular-people/568929/129 "2012-10-26T16:38:38Z")
> [@Philster](#): > > Pro boxer takes on a group of men in street scuffle: > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZGqUgu\_gQ4](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZGqUgu_gQ4) > > Formally trained boxer takes on neighborhood bully/thug: > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX2qn6nrQZs](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX2qn6nrQZs) > > Kung Fu master takes on street fighter/punk/whatever: > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPC35Lv35UI](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPC35Lv35UI) The first one was awesome: three hits, three down, one for the count. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-examples-of-professional-boxers-getting-into-fights-with-regular-people/568929/130 "2012-10-26T16:43:51Z")
> [@fighter1985](#): > > actually u dont get it he does and youre the idiot. Plain and simple. > [@fighter1985](#): > > here we go. Another nerd who knows it all. Let me guess, a real man like you who just saw his family member get hit from behind wouldnt engage in a street fight. Yeah, cos you got dignity and are a real man. Nah thats not it, cos youre a gutless pussy. If youre going to be smart, come with more next time internet geek. **[Moderator Warning]** **fighter1985** , personal insults are not permitted in General Questions, or in other forums on this site outside the Pit. This is and official warning. I strongly suggest you read the rules and FAQs before you continue to post. Colibri General Questions Moderator ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-examples-of-professional-boxers-getting-into-fights-with-regular-people/568929/131 "2012-10-26T16:45:27Z")
> [@Mr.Slant](#): > > I’ll point out that you’re probably out of danger if you can get into a running truck and get the doors locked. > At the least, you should probably call the cops to let them sort it out. > Hard to argue self-defense running over a guy with a truck. Well, so long as we’re speaking theoretically, I’m in the truck and my family is being threatened by a street fighter and they’re not in the truck. I’m sure I’ve seen Kurt Russell do something like this. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-examples-of-professional-boxers-getting-into-fights-with-regular-people/568929/132 "2012-10-26T16:46:03Z")
Moved to the Game Room from GQ. Colibri General Questions Moderator ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Slant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c57346/32.png) [@Mr.Slant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Slant)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-examples-of-professional-boxers-getting-into-fights-with-regular-people/568929/133 "2012-10-26T16:48:17Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Well, so long as we’re speaking theoretically, I’m in the truck and my family is being threatened by a street fighter and they’re not in the truck. I’m sure I’ve seen Kurt Russell do something like this. Oh, hell yeah, run over the guy then steal his shoes. As your attorney in this matter, that’s my advice. If you can find a truck in Ank Morpork, of course… can’t give legal advice outside of my licensure… ---
**Author:** ![PoorYorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecccb3/32.png) [@PoorYorick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PoorYorick)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-examples-of-professional-boxers-getting-into-fights-with-regular-people/568929/134 "2012-10-26T16:51:37Z")
> [@Crazyhorse](#): > > A perfect knockout punch is one to the nerve that runs along the jawline and it will drop pretty much anyone of any size if it is delivered with enough power to the right place. I don’t know what nerve you’re talking about (facial or trigeminal?), but hitting it isn’t what causes a knockout. No one really knows for sure, but it probably has something to do with minor damage to the brainstem caused by head rotation. ---
**Author:** ![dimmy\_derko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/43a26b/32.png) [@dimmy\_derko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dimmy_derko)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-examples-of-professional-boxers-getting-into-fights-with-regular-people/568929/135 "2012-10-26T17:13:56Z")
This thread has great cardio and fighting spirit. It looked as if it was out for the count back at post #117. ---
**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-examples-of-professional-boxers-getting-into-fights-with-regular-people/568929/136 "2012-10-26T17:58:55Z")
We had to kick four big guys out of a party one time at my Fraternity. They seemed tough, and were looking for a fight. I’m a big guy so I was at the front when we grabbed them. The way we handled people like this was to swarm them with a group. Sort of a shock and awe approach. We had twenty guys. Five of us to each of them means they don’t even try to fight back. We try not to shove them too much, but we keep them moving towards the door no matter what they yell. If they throw a punch they will get swarmed and held to the ground. As we bring them near the door, one of them randomly picks a party guest and spits in his face out of frustration and anger. It was a smallish guy wearing a hoodie sweatshirt talking to his girlfriend. He just happened to be standing by the door. I never saw him before or after this night. We kick out the four and leave them outside to yell obscenities at our house. Usually people get tired of this after a few minutes and leave. If they start throwing rocks at the windows we would swarm out after them, of course. Otherwise we stay inside and wait it out. Meanwhile the little guy keeps asking me: “If I go outside, can I come back in?” I keep responding that I’m very sorry about what happened. Let me get you a beer. Etc. But I tell him he doesn’t need to go out there. He keeps asking: “But if I do leave, I can come back in, right? That’s your policy?” I finally say “Yes. Of course. But, don’t go out there. You don’t have to prove anything. Let’s get a beer.” He heads out as soon as I say that. He walks by the crowd of my brothers who are all watching out the windows without a word. Of course, he turned out to be a trained boxer. He approaches the four guys in the street and just walks up to the first one and hits him once. He collapsed to the ground a the blood started pooling. One more hit and the second one went down. This one may actually have been a combination of punches, but it happened in a second. The remaining two ran for their lives. He comes back inside after that and everyone makes a path for him, basically in awe, not knowing what to say. He points to me and says “That guys said I could go out and come back in.” I wasn’t very popular that night since we ended up taking them in two separate cars to the hospital and both cars and the few guys in each car ended up covered in blood. Of course I tried to get the guy to rush the Fraternity, but he wasn’t interested. ---
**Author:** ![rogerbox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/76d3ee/32.png) [@rogerbox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rogerbox)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-examples-of-professional-boxers-getting-into-fights-with-regular-people/568929/137 "2012-10-26T18:45:42Z")
Thanks for the real-world example…and that guy was just an amateur, I remember this ancient thread and being extremely annoyed by how much people under-rated world class professional fighters against some schlubby bar fighter who was “big”, the most over-rated type of fighter in all history. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-examples-of-professional-boxers-getting-into-fights-with-regular-people/568929/138 "2012-10-26T20:29:56Z")
[Tony Galento and Jackie Gleason](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Galento). ---
**Author:** ![destineal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f9b8f/32.png) [@destineal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/destineal)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-examples-of-professional-boxers-getting-into-fights-with-regular-people/568929/139 "2012-10-27T05:15:58Z")
Hell, from the fights I’ve seen, Mayweather would mostly just run around the bar backwards while his opponent flailed at him impotently. Pacquiao would be a different story. ---
**Author:** ![fighter1985](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a6a055/32.png) [@fighter1985](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fighter1985)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-examples-of-professional-boxers-getting-into-fights-with-regular-people/568929/140 "2012-10-27T10:41:25Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > So, wait, if I see one of my family members attacked, I’m supposed to fight with “dignity and respect” is that what I’m hearing? I’m using any and all weapons available. I don’t particularly care. If you had half a brain you’d realise I was giving an example of fighting on the street. This moron says real men don’t get into street fights, I gave an example as a reason as to why you could fight. Sometimes theyre impossible to avoid, unless youre going to stand there as a punching bag or watch on as a family member gets beaten. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-examples-of-professional-boxers-getting-into-fights-with-regular-people/568929.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-examples-of-professional-boxers-getting-into-fights-with-regular-people/568929.md?page=8)