# Are there any good 'Star Trek' games besides the "Starfleet Command" series?

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [May 29, 2010, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-good-star-trek-games-besides-the-starfleet-command-series/541127 "2010-05-29T00:27:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2010, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-good-star-trek-games-besides-the-starfleet-command-series/541127/1 "2010-05-29T00:27:16Z")

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Not that I have anything _against_ Starfleet Command, but I was looking for something maybe online, or something I can play over the Innerwebs. But I’m also wondering if there’s a version I can customize my own ship.

I remember the old ‘Trek.exe’ shareware. . . maybe something like that.

Anyone know of any timewasters?

Tripler  
[Shatner] But online. . . I’m looking. . . for a _game_. . . to _play_ [/Shatner]

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2010, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-good-star-trek-games-besides-the-starfleet-command-series/541127/2 "2010-05-29T01:01:20Z")

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I wish someone would put good old _Starfleet Battles_ in a computer format. Shouldn’t be all that hard–tactical combat between 2 or more armed ships. Allocation of energy to ship systems, individual control of each weapon, firing arcs/range, a hit location/damage distribution system, and maybe a 'splosion or two when the battle is done.

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**Author:** ![BunnyTVS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BunnyTVS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BunnyTVS)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2010, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-good-star-trek-games-besides-the-starfleet-command-series/541127/3 "2010-05-29T01:14:43Z")

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The ship-to-ship combat in Star-Trek Online is basically a dumbed down version of Starfleet Command. There was also the game by Bethesda a couple of years ago Star Trek Insipid or something.

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**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2010, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-good-star-trek-games-besides-the-starfleet-command-series/541127/4 "2010-05-29T01:39:51Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> I wish someone would put good old _Starfleet Battles_ in a computer format. Shouldn’t be all that hard–tactical combat between 2 or more armed ships. Allocation of energy to ship systems, individual control of each weapon, firing arcs/range, a hit location/damage distribution system, and maybe a 'splosion or two when the battle is done.

There _is_ an abandonware version, which, if you PM me I’ll figure out a way to send it to you. Problem is that it was impossible to customize a ship, do energy management, etc. But yeah, I would like something like that too. . .

Tripler  
G’head, PM me.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2010, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-good-star-trek-games-besides-the-starfleet-command-series/541127/5 "2010-05-29T01:51:42Z")

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> [@Tripler](#):
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> There _is_ an abandonware version, which, if you PM me I’ll figure out a way to send it to you. Problem is that it was impossible to customize a ship, do energy management, etc. But yeah, I would like something like that too. . .
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> Tripler  
> G’head, PM me.

I appreciate the offer, but I’ve only got dialup access at home. Downloading much of anything is painful, and the gerbils powering this ancient computer are almost old enough for social security, so I probably couldn’t run/store it. Thanks anyway.

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-good-star-trek-games-besides-the-starfleet-command-series/541127/6 "2010-06-01T17:16:15Z")

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I liked the old (ancient, really) Interplay ‘25th anniversary’ game myself, though it’s probably nothing at all like what you’re thinking of.

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**Author:** ![Illuminatiprimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/illuminatiprimus/32/11520_2.png) [@Illuminatiprimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Illuminatiprimus)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2010, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-good-star-trek-games-besides-the-starfleet-command-series/541127/7 "2010-06-04T12:30:30Z")

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> [@begbert2](#):
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> I liked the old (ancient, really) Interplay ‘25th anniversary’ game myself, though it’s probably nothing at all like what you’re thinking of.

So did I. The sequel sucked balls though.

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2010, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-good-star-trek-games-besides-the-starfleet-command-series/541127/8 "2010-06-04T13:36:28Z")

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25th Anniversary was great. I am also a fan of Birth of the Federation, a Trek-themed 4X Strategy game.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2010, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-good-star-trek-games-besides-the-starfleet-command-series/541127/9 "2010-06-04T17:15:25Z")

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If you’d like to try the shiny Star Trek Online MMO, I can give you a free referral. (Yes, I get shiny things if you decide to subscribe.)

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/4HBjpR0XzUE/hqdefault.jpg "Star Trek Online: Ship Battles 101 pt 1") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HBjpR0XzUE)

Here, watch some ships fighting each other.

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**Author:** ![Illuminatiprimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/illuminatiprimus/32/11520_2.png) [@Illuminatiprimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Illuminatiprimus)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2010, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-good-star-trek-games-besides-the-starfleet-command-series/541127/10 "2010-06-04T23:38:08Z")

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> [@CandidGamera](#):
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> 25th Anniversary was great. I am also a fan of Birth of the Federation, a Trek-themed 4X Strategy game.

I loved it too, but am sad it was the only 4x TBS star trek game ever made (as far as I can tell). BOTS was great fun for us Trekers but it wasn’t in absolute terms a great game, particularly when you consider the imbalance that occurred later in game and the _horrible_ memory leak that made the game slow to a crawl after a couple of hundred turns.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2010, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-good-star-trek-games-besides-the-starfleet-command-series/541127/11 "2010-06-05T01:35:47Z")

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I can’t believe they never patched that memory leak. I bought the game, not so much because I am a big Star Trek fan, but because I loved MOO and MOO2 and thought a Star Trek 4X game by the same company would be fun. But, as you said, it was badly imbalanced. And I never could really get the combat system figured out. It was also hurt in that they could only get the license to TNG, despite at the time there was TOS (of course) as well as DS9 and VOY.

I can’t remember. Was there ever a patch released that allowed the game to run under XP or are you stuck running an old copy of 98?

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2010, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-good-star-trek-games-besides-the-starfleet-command-series/541127/12 "2010-06-05T14:29:43Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> I wish someone would put good old _Starfleet Battles_ in a computer format.

The Starfleet Command games are basically the computer version of Starfleet Battles.

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**Author:** ![Illuminatiprimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/illuminatiprimus/32/11520_2.png) [@Illuminatiprimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Illuminatiprimus)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2010, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-good-star-trek-games-besides-the-starfleet-command-series/541127/13 "2010-06-05T23:06:59Z")

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> [@asterion](#):
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> I can’t believe they never patched that memory leak. I bought the game, not so much because I am a big Star Trek fan, but because I loved MOO and MOO2 and thought a Star Trek 4X game by the same company would be fun. But, as you said, it was badly imbalanced. And I never could really get the combat system figured out. It was also hurt in that they could only get the license to TNG, despite at the time there was TOS (of course) as well as DS9 and VOY.
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> I can’t remember. Was there ever a patch released that allowed the game to run under XP or are you stuck running an old copy of 98?

Microprose was the developer and they don’t exist anymore, hence no patching. Some fans are creating a sequel and a variant version of the game - you can find them [here](http://www.botf2.com/default.aspx)and [here](http://star-trek-games.com/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=92&func=showdown&id=434).
