# Are there any intact 17th century ships anywhere?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [July 3, 2009, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-intact-17th-century-ships-anywhere/501760 "2009-07-03T00:51:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Quintas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/48db29/32.png) [@Quintas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quintas)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2009, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-intact-17th-century-ships-anywhere/501760/1 "2009-07-03T00:51:48Z")

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Are there any preserved Galleons or warships from the 1600’s? Of the sort that would have been used during the days of Carribean Piracy? HMS Victory dates from the mid 1700’s so I suppose it’s possible something may be left from 100 years before.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2009, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-intact-17th-century-ships-anywhere/501760/2 "2009-07-03T00:59:29Z")

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[The Vasa](http://www.vasamuseet.se/sitecore/content/Vasamuseet/InEnglish/About/VasaMuseum.aspx)

That’s pretty much it.

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**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2009, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-intact-17th-century-ships-anywhere/501760/3 "2009-07-03T01:02:12Z")

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here’s one: [Mary Rose - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Rose)

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**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2009, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-intact-17th-century-ships-anywhere/501760/4 "2009-07-03T01:51:04Z")

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Wow–you guys got both of the ships that I’m aware of.

I’ve seen the Mary Rose display in Portsmouth, England.

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**Author:** ![Olentzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90ced4/32.png) [@Olentzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Olentzero)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2009, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-intact-17th-century-ships-anywhere/501760/5 "2009-07-03T06:54:41Z")

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The Vasa Museum is friggin’ cool. Well worth the visit if you’re ever in Stockholm.

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**Author:** ![Quintas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/48db29/32.png) [@Quintas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quintas)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2009, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-intact-17th-century-ships-anywhere/501760/6 "2009-07-03T07:23:04Z")

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I looked at the links provided. So I take it there are no 17th century vessels preserved to the extent of HMS Victory or Old Ironsides?

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2009, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-intact-17th-century-ships-anywhere/501760/7 "2009-07-03T08:51:44Z")

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The Mary Rose is incredible. She’s just 9 years off being a \*15th \* century warship, it’s amazing that so much has been preserved.

BTW I love the names of these cannons from the [1514 inventory](http://www.maryrose.org/ship/1514inventory.htm) of the Mary Rose.

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> Great murderers of iron 1
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> Murderers of iron of another sort 2

Cool name for a weapon in a video game! 🙂

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**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2009, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-intact-17th-century-ships-anywhere/501760/8 "2009-07-03T16:35:33Z")

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> [@Quintas](#):
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> I looked at the links provided. So I take it there are no 17th century vessels preserved to the extent of HMS Victory or Old Ironsides?

Well, neither the _Victory_ nor the _Constitution_ were recovered off of the sea bottom, so cut the _Mary Rose_ and _Vasa_ some slack. 😉
