# Are there any men & women who have a complete "brains and beauty" package?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 1, 2008, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-men-women-who-have-a-complete-brains-and-beauty-package/451374 "2008-06-01T18:40:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2008, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-men-women-who-have-a-complete-brains-and-beauty-package/451374/21 "2008-06-01T23:05:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Can Handle the Truth]  
IMHO that’s a strike _against_ her intelligence, not _for_ it.  
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Are you kidding? Boy, how stupid, going and getting the job that made her a millionaire.

You’d be a fool to turn down millions of dollars. You can always go back to school; you can’t always model. The smart person makes hay while the sun shines.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2008, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-men-women-who-have-a-complete-brains-and-beauty-package/451374/22 "2008-06-01T23:18:12Z")

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[Edward Norton](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Norton) has a BA in history from Yale (which he most likely got into for his acting skills anyway) and worked at his grandfather’s non-profit for a while. He also is fluent in Japanese. And, in my opinion, is a very talented actor. I don’t think acting is a brainless art for anyone, and some actors go about their business with more “genius” than others.

I think if I had all those traits, I’d consider myself to have “brains.” Obviously I wouldn’t tout myself as a genius but I’d consider myself much much smarter than your average Joe Model.

Oh yeah and he’s [hot](http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/7445/edwardnortontb8.jpg).

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2008, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-men-women-who-have-a-complete-brains-and-beauty-package/451374/23 "2008-06-01T23:23:21Z")

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OK–how many have, brains, beauty…and are _sane?_

As in :“not a manipulative, deranged, insecure, psycho-bitch/bastard from Hell”?

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2008, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-men-women-who-have-a-complete-brains-and-beauty-package/451374/24 "2008-06-01T23:32:00Z")

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Natalie Portman got into Harvard (by skipping the premiere of Star Wars Ep 1 to study for her finals), knows four or five languages, and published in two professional science journals.

Dexter Holland (Lead Singer of The Offspring) graduated Valedictorian from his high school, got through pre-med, and has a doctorate in Molecular Biology.

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**Author:** ![MLS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@MLS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MLS)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2008, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-men-women-who-have-a-complete-brains-and-beauty-package/451374/25 "2008-06-01T23:39:27Z")

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Gena Davis is (or at least at one time was) a member of Mensa. You need to be in the top 2% to qualify.

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**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-men-women-who-have-a-complete-brains-and-beauty-package/451374/26 "2008-06-02T01:15:22Z")

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Sylvia Plath was pretty attractive (several pics [here](http://www.sheilaomalley.com/archives/008904.html)).

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**Author:** ![The\_Them](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@The\_Them](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Them)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-men-women-who-have-a-complete-brains-and-beauty-package/451374/27 "2008-06-02T01:21:26Z")

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There was a chemistry TA when I was an undergrad who was a top-notch scientist and looked like a manga beauty, I swear. She also had silver hair (at~23!). There were several girls I went to school with who were drop-dead beauties and scary smart, actually.  
Victoria Woodhull (19th century troublemaker) was gawdawful pretty and smart, though I’d need to read more about her to state that she was _top_-notch in either category.  
Actually, in terms of stars, I know virtually nothing; I just don’t follow their biographies beyond the cursory blurbs I run across occasionally. From general impressions:  
Sissy Spacek  
Jimmy Stewart  
Clark Gable  
Lauren Bacall  
Academic achievements, I feel, are good, but far from imperative, especially if you go back more than a very few decades, when college was not really available to most, particularly if you were female or a member of many ethnic groups.  
Definitely a second for Natalie Portman. Ooh behbeh. 😉

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-men-women-who-have-a-complete-brains-and-beauty-package/451374/28 "2008-06-02T02:47:53Z")

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Erin Burnett is a financial news anchor at CNBC and ticks me off because we have financial monitors all over the place at work and I have to walk past them all the time. Keep in mind that she is 32 years old.

[http://www.cnbc.com/id/15838220](http://www.cnbc.com/id/15838220)

"Burnett joined CNBC from Bloomberg Television where she anchored two hours of programming daily. Prior to Bloomberg, Burnett was a Vice President at Citigroup, where she built an online financial news network targeted at institutional and retail investors.

Burnett also has worked at CNN as a writer and booker for CNN’s “Moneyline.” She began her career at Goldman, Sachs & Co. as an investment banking analyst focused on mergers and acquisitions and corporate finance.

She was a member of the team awarded the 2006 Deadline Club Award for Business Reporting.

Burnett holds a Bachelor of Arts in Political Economy from Williams College in Williamstown, MA."

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**Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-men-women-who-have-a-complete-brains-and-beauty-package/451374/29 "2008-06-02T03:01:11Z")

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How about [Yulia Tymoshenko](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yulia_Tymoshenko)? I think she’s pretty good looking for being almost 50. In addition to holding (the equivalent of) a doctorate in economics, she’s one of the most powerful politicians in Ukraine.

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**Author:** ![Shamozzle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shamozzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shamozzle)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-men-women-who-have-a-complete-brains-and-beauty-package/451374/30 "2008-06-02T04:09:15Z")

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My ex girlfriend is one of these types. Drop-dead gorgeous. Smokin’ hot. When we would walk into a bar, it was dirty looks from everyone. Guys wanted to punch me out and girls were jealous of her.

But also, she was generally smarter than anyone within a 10-mile radius. She was constantly contributing to research papers, studies, etc… She received a quarter million dollar scholarship to [insert big american university here].

And she was an amazing gourmet cook. and interior decorator. and everything else. She was basically a hot polymath. A hot manipulative, self-centered, duplicitous polymath. _sigh_

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**Author:** ![Jurph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/50afbb/32.png) [@Jurph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jurph)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-men-women-who-have-a-complete-brains-and-beauty-package/451374/31 "2008-06-02T04:25:56Z")

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[QUOTE=Shagnasty]  
Erin Burnett is a financial news anchor at CNBC and ticks me off because we have financial monitors all over the place at work and I have to walk past them all the time. Keep in mind that she is 32 years old.

[http://www.cnbc.com/id/15838220](http://www.cnbc.com/id/15838220)

"Burnett joined CNBC from Bloomberg Television where she anchored two hours of programming daily. Prior to Bloomberg, Burnett was a Vice President at Citigroup, where she built an online financial news network targeted at institutional and retail investors.  
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Holy CRAP, I went to high school with her! I had _no idea_ that it was the same Erin Burnett, but she is even more attractive today than she was back then. She was also wicked smart.

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-men-women-who-have-a-complete-brains-and-beauty-package/451374/32 "2008-06-02T04:52:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Jurph]  
Holy CRAP, I went to high school with her! I had _no idea_ that it was the same Erin Burnett, but she is even more attractive today than she was back then. She was also wicked smart.  
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We have to talk about getting me hooked up with one of your class reunions or something. I will pay for dinner and drinks or buy you a house for helping me out. It sounds like the only thing she is missing is a man. I think I am just what the doctor ordered.

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**Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-men-women-who-have-a-complete-brains-and-beauty-package/451374/33 "2008-06-02T05:39:03Z")

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Lots of brains & beauty packages. Many named here. Many more are not that famous, because even if you’re brilliant and gorgeous, it doesn’t mean you’re famous or want to be.

I would like to submit Lisa Kudrow, a Vassar grad, who was also noted as one of People magazine’s 50 most beautiful people (some year). I think that qualifies as brains & beauty by any standard even though I don’t find her all that fetching.

And Harvard graduated Mira Sorvino magna cum laude–and she’s not bad, either.

(By some coincidence these two co-star in one of my favorite movies ever, in which they play dumb blondes.)

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**Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-men-women-who-have-a-complete-brains-and-beauty-package/451374/34 "2008-06-02T05:53:53Z")

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[Higuchi Ichiyo](http://ikoi.web.infoseek.co.jp/photos/scenery/japan/toukyou/ueno/higuchiichiyou.htm) was pretty good looking from what can be told by the one photograph of her.

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