# Are there any out gay CHARACTERS on Disney or Nickoledeon? If not... **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 3, 2013, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-out-gay-characters-on-disney-or-nickoledeon-if-not/665210 "2013-08-03T01:10:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2013, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-out-gay-characters-on-disney-or-nickoledeon-if-not/665210/21 "2013-08-03T19:21:08Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Eh. Victor/Victoria did it long before. Usually the men are dragged kicking and screaming into the realization they’re falling in love with this supposed other man and then the big reveal and all is well. Eh right back atcha: King Marchand hid in Victor’s room and saw Victoria getting into a bath before he ever put any moves on her. Li was ready to plant a kiss right on Ping’s lips before he caught on. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2013, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-out-gay-characters-on-disney-or-nickoledeon-if-not/665210/22 "2013-08-03T20:46:10Z")
Pretty sure Shego bats for the other team. Probably Drakken, too. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2013, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-out-gay-characters-on-disney-or-nickoledeon-if-not/665210/23 "2013-08-03T20:56:20Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > I don’t think there are actually a lot of shows about children that young. And while I’m not up on current children’s shows, when I was a kid it was certainly very common for characters on children’s shows to have heterosexual crushes, so it’s not like the sexual orientations of child/adolescent characters has traditionally been left unaddressed. No, but based on what I’ve learned from Dope, a lot of people don’t realize they are gay until they are much older than I would have expected. And I’ve even seen straight guys who act like they didn’t know they were straight until puberty. But children’s shows are slower to react because they are the ones most under watchful parents’ eyes. They are the ones who most have to fear being told “think of the children.” And, when it comes to those two networks, the Christian Right is a huge portion of their audience specifically because they are “family friendly” channels. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2013, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-out-gay-characters-on-disney-or-nickoledeon-if-not/665210/24 "2013-08-03T21:16:04Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > Eh right back atcha: King Marchand hid in Victor’s room and saw Victoria getting into a bath before he ever put any moves on her. Li was ready to plant a kiss right on Ping’s lips before he caught on. That’s a point. King was seriously confused about his own sexuality after he met “Victor” up to then, though… ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2013, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-out-gay-characters-on-disney-or-nickoledeon-if-not/665210/25 "2013-08-03T21:52:51Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Pretty sure Shego bats for the other team. > > Probably Drakken, too. Nope. Shego has been seen dating. Guys. Drakken hints he has a thing for Shego. ---
**Author:** ![aNewLeaf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@aNewLeaf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aNewLeaf)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2013, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-out-gay-characters-on-disney-or-nickoledeon-if-not/665210/26 "2013-08-03T22:01:49Z")
> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#): > > Nope. > Shego has been seen dating. Guys. > > Drakken hints he has a thing for Shego. Drakken and Shego hook up in the final episode- and Shego dates several men during the show- including Mr Barkin. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-out-gay-characters-on-disney-or-nickoledeon-if-not/665210/27 "2013-08-04T00:31:19Z")
> [@Emtar\_KronJonDerSohn](#): > > My kids watch a cartoon called Sophia the First. The castle steward is queer as a three dollar bill, although they don’t expressly assign any sexuality to him. Bailiwick is the name of the character; he’s voiced by Tim Gunn. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-out-gay-characters-on-disney-or-nickoledeon-if-not/665210/28 "2013-08-04T02:03:15Z")
> [@Emtar\_KronJonDerSohn](#): > > My kids watch a cartoon called Sophia the First. The castle steward is queer as a three dollar bill, although **they don’t expressly assign any sexuality to him**. Emphasis added. So how do you know? And the expression is offensive. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-out-gay-characters-on-disney-or-nickoledeon-if-not/665210/29 "2013-08-04T02:15:00Z")
Pleakley and Jumba from Lilo and Stitch. ---
**Author:** ![sam0156](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90db22/32.png) [@sam0156](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sam0156)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-out-gay-characters-on-disney-or-nickoledeon-if-not/665210/30 "2013-08-04T02:23:34Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > Emphasis added. > > So how do you know? And the expression is offensive. Because he voiced by Tim Gunn in his normal, every day, very recognizable voice. So relax. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-out-gay-characters-on-disney-or-nickoledeon-if-not/665210/31 "2013-08-04T02:46:40Z")
> [@sam0156](#): > > Because he voiced by Tim Gunn in his normal, every day, very recognizable voice. So relax. Wow. Thanks for worrying about me. So any male character with an effeminate voice _must_ be “queer”. Nice stereotype you and Emtar got there. And not even a particularly accurate one, yes, Tim Gunn is gay (although he has referred to himself as asexual and states that he hasn’t any sort of sexual relationship in almost three decades), but so is Neil Patrick Harris (and much more active at it) and nobody would call a character he voiced “queer” just because NPH was the voice. After all, Barney on _How I Met Your Mother_ is the ultimate heterosexual sex fiend. On the opposite side of the spectrum is Eric Stonestreet (_Modern Family_) who is straight, but comes across as quite effeminate (at least on the show, no idea how he sounds in real life). The expression “queer as a three dollar bill” relies on the fact that a three dollar bill doesn’t/shouldn’t exist and therefore must be wrong. That’s offensive. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-out-gay-characters-on-disney-or-nickoledeon-if-not/665210/32 "2013-08-04T03:24:55Z")
> [@Andy\_L](#): > > Bailiwick is the name of the character; he’s voiced by Tim Gunn. The kids are safe then. Nobody with the manly name of Tim Gunn could possibly be gay. Hell, just saying Tim Gunn out loud puts hair on your chest. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-out-gay-characters-on-disney-or-nickoledeon-if-not/665210/33 "2013-08-04T03:44:21Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > Nobody with the manly name of Tim Gunn could possibly be gay. Hell, yeah! Sounds almost as manly as Rock Hudson! ---
**Author:** ![piepiepie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e47774/32.png) [@piepiepie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/piepiepie)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-out-gay-characters-on-disney-or-nickoledeon-if-not/665210/34 "2013-08-04T12:12:22Z")
It was heavily hinted that Arnold’s teacher, Mr. Simmons, was gay throughout his time on the show but particularly in the Thanksgiving episode. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-out-gay-characters-on-disney-or-nickoledeon-if-not/665210/35 "2013-08-04T12:24:06Z")
Not quite Nick or Dis, and not exactly an “out character,” but the star of [Yo Gabba Gabba](http://yogabbagabba.com/) doesn’t hold back (just my observation, I could be mistaken). ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-out-gay-characters-on-disney-or-nickoledeon-if-not/665210/36 "2013-08-04T13:04:22Z")
Well, nothing explicit, but Disney’s Kim Possible once featured a TV show called _Evil Eye for the Bad Guy_, providing fashion advice for supervillains, which apparently even parodies the “Queer Eye” theme song. I seem to recall the show’s hosts acting—uh, is “somewhat stereotypical gay mannerisms” the polite way to put it?—but not portrayed negatively for the fact. Oh, and on Cartoon Network, Marceline and Princess Bubblegum are _so_ exes. ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-out-gay-characters-on-disney-or-nickoledeon-if-not/665210/37 "2013-08-04T19:09:50Z")
> [@Ranchoth](#): > > Oh, and on Cartoon Network, Marceline and Princess Bubblegum are _so_ exes. Yep…the most recent episode with them stopped just short of explicitly stating it, IMO. And while Treetrunks and Mr. Pig are very obviously a heterosexual couple, the episode where they are forced by others to hide their love (due to others saying they feel uncomfortable or grossed out) seemed to draw more inspiration from some modern reactions to same-sex relationships, rather than simply showing reactions to ‘unattractive’ people sharing a PDA. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-out-gay-characters-on-disney-or-nickoledeon-if-not/665210/38 "2013-08-05T15:22:52Z")
> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#): > > I do not and can not accept that SpongeBob Squarepants is straight. Spongebob is absorbent. He lives in Bikini Bottom. His closest friends are “Sandy Cheeks” and a pink starfish. Conclusion: Spongebob is a tampon. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-out-gay-characters-on-disney-or-nickoledeon-if-not/665210/39 "2013-08-05T15:37:50Z")
Every Halloween they air the Scary Godmother specials (based on books by Jill Thompson). One of the main characters is Skully Pettibone. His characterization in the books, and to a greater extent in the animated specials, is to a large extent that of a stereotypical “female lead’s best friend,” as suggested by his repeatedly coming out of closets. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-out-gay-characters-on-disney-or-nickoledeon-if-not/665210/40 "2013-08-05T18:40:08Z")
> [@Max\_Torque](#): > > Spongebob is absorbent. > > He lives in Bikini Bottom. > > His closest friends are “Sandy Cheeks” and a pink starfish. > > Conclusion: Spongebob is a tampon. If that were true, wouldn’t his best friend be a clam? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-out-gay-characters-on-disney-or-nickoledeon-if-not/665210.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-out-gay-characters-on-disney-or-nickoledeon-if-not/665210.md?page=3)