# Are there any places, preferably in the US, that have good weather year round outside of southern California **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [December 2, 2024, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-places-preferably-in-the-us-that-have-good-weather-year-round-outside-of-southern-california/1011077 "2024-12-02T18:30:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-places-preferably-in-the-us-that-have-good-weather-year-round-outside-of-southern-california/1011077/41 "2024-12-03T13:59:44Z")
> [@Ulfreida](#): > > Well, there is only a sliver of the US that fit those requirements, and it is crammed with people, Not all of it. Have you been here? Enough with the ignorance. The stretch between Ventura and San Louis Obispo on the coast is largely uncrowded, temperate and beautiful. Obviously it’s expensive but not to the extent of a few large cities. Air conditioners aren’t necessary. You’ll use your heater a bit for a few months. You’ll get a lot of coastal fog. A lot of people don’t like not having a very much direct sun but I’m fine with the gloom. The other places that I’ve been with similar-ish climate are parts of Australia and NZ, Italy and Southern Africa. Stick to areas on the coast and near the vineyards. ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-places-preferably-in-the-us-that-have-good-weather-year-round-outside-of-southern-california/1011077/42 "2024-12-03T14:36:11Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Not all of it. Have you been here? Enough with the ignorance. I lived in California for sixty years, all of it in those primo climate areas. Coastal fog is not what the OP wants, apparently (see my comment about them wanting to live indoors only outdoors). Housing prices in CA must be experienced to be believed. In my “rural” location in the Santa Cruz Mountains, the house we built in the early 1980’s, worth about $200K back then (already double what a similar house in a less California place would cost), we sold seven years ago for $875K. It sold in one day, with seven firm offers above our asking price. A two bedroom one bath house, 1100 square feet. It sold so fast, our realtor said, because it was one of the very few houses available for under a million. The area you mention wouldn’t be quite that expensive but still unaffordable for most people. And it still, looking at the whole US, is a sliver of real estate, as I said. And it’s San Luis Opisbo, not San Louis Obispo. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-places-preferably-in-the-us-that-have-good-weather-year-round-outside-of-southern-california/1011077/43 "2024-12-03T14:39:15Z")
> [@Ulfreida](#): > > And it’s San Luis Opisbo, not San Louis Obispo. Ugh. I blame autocorrect. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-places-preferably-in-the-us-that-have-good-weather-year-round-outside-of-southern-california/1011077/44 "2024-12-03T14:45:16Z")
> [@Ulfreida](#): > > And it’s San Luis Opisbo, not San Louis Obispo. Neither of you are correct (I live there) ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-places-preferably-in-the-us-that-have-good-weather-year-round-outside-of-southern-california/1011077/45 "2024-12-03T14:52:03Z")
Sorry I spelled it wrong too. San Luis Obispo. Slo town. A great little beach town. Used to have some good friends there. ---
**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-places-preferably-in-the-us-that-have-good-weather-year-round-outside-of-southern-california/1011077/46 "2024-12-03T14:53:20Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > You’ll get a lot of coastal fog. A lot of people don’t like not having a very much direct sun but I’m fine with the gloom. Shoot, I’m just a couple miles in right at the foothills and the fog is rarely a deal. Maybe a couple degrees warmer but still fine without A/C. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-places-preferably-in-the-us-that-have-good-weather-year-round-outside-of-southern-california/1011077/47 "2024-12-03T15:20:24Z")
There are lots of little microclimates. My specific neighborhood is noticeably cooler than anywhere else in town all year round. It’s super nice those couple of very warm weeks but we actually get frost on the roof some early mornings. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-places-preferably-in-the-us-that-have-good-weather-year-round-outside-of-southern-california/1011077/48 "2024-12-03T15:21:23Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Clearly, the “LSL” stands for “Lizard-like? So lizard-like!” Very clever! Did you used to write catchy jingles for a living? 😉 Truly SoCal a bit inland is a great climate. No need of AC, no humidity, and relatively little need of heat. Just don’t expect to live year round in shorts & a t-shirt unless you’re unusually chill-proof. When I lived there (20+ years) it was always within a mile of the ocean. Lots of cool gray hours on lots of cool gray days. Which tore me up. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-places-preferably-in-the-us-that-have-good-weather-year-round-outside-of-southern-california/1011077/49 "2024-12-03T15:35:16Z")
> [@Hari\_Seldon](#): > > If you don’t mind a lot of 90 degree days, I recommend Barbados. In the winter, virtually every day has a range of 75-86, and 3 or 4 degrees hotter in the summer. It apparently never goes above 90 or below 70. Saint Martin & Sint Maarten have similar weather. The 90 degree days are accompanied by a nice sea breeze. “Hurricane season” is a concern. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-places-preferably-in-the-us-that-have-good-weather-year-round-outside-of-southern-california/1011077/50 "2024-12-03T15:36:43Z")
I can understand, sort of, the attraction to year-round mild weather (though such settings generally come with crowding, air pollution and ultra-high prices). To me, “good weather” means a four-season climate without godawful extremes of cold or heat. A minimally changing climate would mean foregoing the rush I get when the first warm days of spring supplant winter. This musical selection captures the feeling for me. https://www.youtube.com/embed/Gu77Vtja30c?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque&list=RDGu77Vtja30c&start=7 ---
**Author:** ![doreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/858c86/32.png) [@doreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doreen)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-places-preferably-in-the-us-that-have-good-weather-year-round-outside-of-southern-california/1011077/51 "2024-12-03T15:41:00Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > A high of 60F ( for 3 minutes) might indeed be warmer than e.g. Rochester. But that doesn’t mean it’s warm in any absolute sense. I’m not sure there is any such thing as “warm in an absolute sense” until you get near “Las Vegas in July” temps but 60F seems to be a particularly strange temperature. I laugh whenever I travel - I go to the Rochester/Buffalo area and the locals are wearing shorts at 60F. I go to Florida or South Carolina and people are wearing coats and hats if it’s 60 degrees. Me, I’m wearing a T shirt and pants at 60 degrees so people are looking at me funny either way. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-places-preferably-in-the-us-that-have-good-weather-year-round-outside-of-southern-california/1011077/52 "2024-12-03T16:12:29Z")
I haven’t been there but I’ve looked for places to travel in the mainland US, for a vacation, a few times and there seemed to be some regions of Colorado (Durango, Canon City, etc.) that _appear_ to be fairly temperate throughout the year. But I don’t know if they’re horribly rainy or have some other issues? Low is 50ish in the winter, highs are 85ish. ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-places-preferably-in-the-us-that-have-good-weather-year-round-outside-of-southern-california/1011077/53 "2024-12-03T16:33:38Z")
If you like all 4 seasons with everything in moderation, the Northern Virginia Piedmont has the best climate in the country. Not too hot in summer, but hot enough to make autumn beautiful. Not too cold or snowy in winter, but cold enough to make spring very beautiful. A nice balance of sun and rain. Hurricanes are fairly rare here (the last was in 2003). I’ve been around the world, but never found a climate I like half as much as the Northern Virginia Piedmont. I see your “Jupiter” and raise “[Southland in the Springtime](https://youtu.be/CLLQr8IN2W4?si=LW-5HOjsQcvB8CWN)” by Indigo Girls. ---
**Author:** ![3AxisCtrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/ecd19e/32.png) [@3AxisCtrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3AxisCtrl)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-places-preferably-in-the-us-that-have-good-weather-year-round-outside-of-southern-california/1011077/54 "2024-12-03T17:06:18Z")
> [@psychonaut](#): > > Hawaii has a pretty stable climate that a lot of people find comfortable, no? Stable, yes - but highly variable by location. Here’s a map that shows [annual rainfall on the Big Island](https://imgur.com/average-annual-rainfall-on-big-island-of-hawaii-720x780-2ACD95C): it varies from under 10" to over 240" (yes, that’s 20 feet / 6 meters of rain). Which I guess supports the idea that a lot of people would find a comfortable climate: all tastes are catered to. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-places-preferably-in-the-us-that-have-good-weather-year-round-outside-of-southern-california/1011077/55 "2024-12-03T17:15:12Z")
> [@3AxisCtrl](#): > > Which I guess supports the idea that a lot of people would find a comfortable climate: all tastes are catered to. I was briefly an engineer designing HVAC systems for large buildings. There is a range of temperature and humidity for an office, think of it like a little box, where anywhere in that box like 85% of the people will be comfortable. There is no place where everyone will be comfortable. ---
**Author:** ![HoneyBadgerDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honeybadgerdc/32/1033_2.png) [@HoneyBadgerDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoneyBadgerDC)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-places-preferably-in-the-us-that-have-good-weather-year-round-outside-of-southern-california/1011077/56 "2024-12-03T17:16:23Z")
I love the weather in northern Nv, about 5 months below 60 degrees, seldom over 100 and nights get down to about 20 in the winter. Low humidity so the cold and the hot both feel pretty comfortable. I see this area as eventually becoming a metropolis. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-places-preferably-in-the-us-that-have-good-weather-year-round-outside-of-southern-california/1011077/57 "2024-12-03T17:59:09Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > I’ve only been to Hawaii in November, and found it very pleasant. A little too warm, but some rain and refreshing breezes. I was under the impression the weather was similar year round, but i never actually checked that. That’s my understanding as well. (Admittedly, I’ve never been to Hawaii, much less lived there.) The nice thing about Hawaii’s climate is that in addition to never getting really cold it also never gets ridiculously hot. The highest temperature ever recorded in Hawaii was 100 degrees F. That’s lower than the record high temperature in all forty-eight continental states (and it ties Alaska’s record high). ---
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> [@doreen](#): > > I go to the Rochester/Buffalo area and the locals are wearing shorts at 60F. I stopped at my local Wegmans to pick up some groceries last night. It was 32 degrees F. There was a guy walking across the parking lot in shorts and a tank top. ---
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> [@doreen](#): > > I laugh whenever I travel - I go to the Rochester/Buffalo area and the locals are wearing shorts at 60F. I go to Florida or South Carolina and people are wearing coats and hats if it’s 60 degrees. Me, I’m wearing a T shirt and pants at 60 degrees so people are looking at me funny either way. It all depends on what you are used to. When we get a 60F day on the early spring, i may go out in shorts. If we get one in midsummer, I’ll wear long pants and long sleeves. Because my body is different in the winter than in the summer. ---
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> [@LSLGuy](#): > > I want an overnight low around 80, a daily high around 90, maybe 95, and a palpable amount of humidity to deliver the perception of enveloping coziness. But not so much that I feel sodden. Welcome to Singapore! > **[Singapore, Singapore Average Weather](https://www.holiday-weather.com/singapore/averages/)** > > Weather Averages for Singapore , Singapore The nighttime average goes from a high of 84F to a whopping low of 81F, the daily high doesn’t quite get you to where you want, sitting between 86-88F. And if you want humidity, boy does it have it in spades! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-places-preferably-in-the-us-that-have-good-weather-year-round-outside-of-southern-california/1011077.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-places-preferably-in-the-us-that-have-good-weather-year-round-outside-of-southern-california/1011077.md?page=4)