Are there any reasons to reject Graham Platner in Maine

This isn’t a dig — I honestly don’t see the connection you’re making here. Unless you mistyped something, all you’ve established is that they met in 1974, there was a divorce at some point, and they got married in 2012.

You’re going to need more than that to allege an affair. I’m not saying it didn’t happen; I’m saying you skipped several steps between “they knew each other” and “there was an affair.”

I don’t have any problem whatsoever ignoring the testimony of a formor republican operative that was an ex-girl friend.

I also don’t think “automatically believe every ex” is a good standard either. An angry ex-girlfriend or ex-boyfriend is one of the least reliable forms of character testimony imaginable. Most people probably have at least one ex who would describe them negatively.

Maybe that is surprising because I think Platner is a walking scandal machine. I guess I just want to be consistant in what I think a scandal is.

I will say I think more is going to come out latter. The Republican scandal machine won’t release their best stuff they have on Platner until the primary is over and he can’t be replaced anymore.

All the evidence shows that he was more than aware it was Nazi symbolism. He knew it was a Totenkopf, he told people over the years it was a Totenkopf, and the pictures of it before he had it covered up show it to be a Totenkopf. And yet your argument is “Hey, it’s just an amorphous blob” and “At least it’s not [completely different Nazi thing]” and to play the “sheeple” card.

One could certainly argue that getting a Totenkopf tattoo in his youth was due to poor judgement and because he thought it looked cool and badass rather than out of sympathy for Nazis. But pretending he didn’t know what it was, and that it’s not that thing anyway, and “if you disagree with me you’re all mindless sheep” is not a credible approach to take.

If nothing else, we know that he lied about it. He said that he got it covered up as soon as he learned what it was, but we have evidence that he knew what it was long before the time when he covered it up.

You realize the FACT that it is a nazi tattoo is not in dispute by anyone including Platner right?

Natalie from ContraPoints almost never ever misses, and this is another good example of that:

While it’s true that Platner himself does admit that it was a Nazi tattoo, there are actually a number of posters in this thread, not just one, who continue to deny it. It really is the strangest thing.

How come none of these pictures showing it to be a totenkopf have ever been made public? How come only two people have claimed he told them he knew what it was before the “scandal” broke, one of whom is a GOP operative and the other of whom refuses to make her name public?

This whole thing is a case study in gullibility. If you just repeat “Nazi tattoo!” often enough, some people will falsely assume you know what you’re talking about. They’ve built up a Rorschach blot tattoo and an anonymous accusation into what they consider “proof” that he is secretly a Nazi who is posing as a progressive for reasons.

He says he found out it was a Nazi tattoo and then removed it. The debate is about whether a reasonable person could have had that tattoo for years and not recognized it as being a Nazi symbol. Based on the only extant photo, my answer is “absolutely”.

Ew, you’re still on X? I thought you didn’t like Nazis.

Yes, but there was a gap of many years in that “and then”.

Is that according to him, or according to an anonymous source?

One of many sources that says he was a WWII buff since long before his drunken Totenkopf adventure.

What are you talking about? The pictures of his totenkopf are public. There are white knights making arguments he himself doesn’t make - “it’s just a blob, who could possibly recognize that as a skull and bones?” - but these are ridiculous. Even Platner himself doesn’t make that claim. He just pretends to be the world’s most WWII ignorant WWII buff. Talk about a “case study in gullibility”!

I’m curious, when it comes out that he SA’d someone or sexted underage girls on Kik, will that finally be a step too far for the Boy with the Nazi Tattoo?

Nah, someone linked Natalie’s tweet on a Discord. Knowing Natalie, she’ll probably delete it soon anyways - she always makes based tweets that go hard and then takes them down :frowning: it’s her biggest flaw.

What - like this picture?

Oh, I’d not seen that picture before. It’s better than the one from the party, but it still looks like a bowling ball with wings to me. I would never identify that as a skull without prompting.

Again - Platner himself has identified it as a Totenkopf. What it is, is not in dispute.

I call bullshit on that, too. No way the teenage WWII buff lost so many brain cells in Basic Training to forget what a Totenkopf was. He may not have known what it was the night he got it, if he was truly black out drunk; but the next morning, I’m sure he figured it out immediately. But as noted by @puzzlegal, at that point his primary concern was comradery with his Totenkopf Bros.

Then let me ask you a simple question. If he didn’t know it was a Totenkopf, why is he covering it with his hand in his Kik teenage thirst trap profile pic?

Oh, and last I checked, his profile is still up with that profile picture as of a few days ago, so I don’t really buy the whole “his days of sexting women (who are totally of age despite the demographics of the app he chooses to use but check back on this in October) are long over” thing

According to him. He participated in a discussion on Reddit about tottenkopfs, and then when he was running for Senate deleted his post.

Do you think he deleted it because he was worried people would think he’s a Nazi or because he was worried people would think he’s into the same awful edge lord territory as Elon Musk?

The “awful edge lord territory Elon Musk is in” is also known as “being a Nazi”