Maybe the moon is made of cheese, but it isn’t. He listed the income from the VA benefits on his financial disclosure forms (required to run for the Senate, aka legally no it is not “private information” in his case) and he’s been talking about his veteran status and all sorts of things related to it throughout the campaign. The fact that he refuses to specify this one particular aspect of it that would get him in legal trouble and blow his oysterman narrative out of the water is only a mystery to people who buy a lot of bridges.
If you say so, you’re the expert. Have you called the VA to report the fraud you’re so clearly seeing?
Good read.
She is against fraud, but I cannot find any links indicating she thinks claiming PTSD when you can work, or at least are likely to be able to work in the future, is fraud.
Here is a .gov link showing her working to make PTSD claims easier when an Obama administration official:
Do you have a link indicating that she is talking about a situation like Platner’s when she speaks of fraud?
I would have a hard time voting for Platner. And I’m unsure what to think of Duckworth having worked to make PTSD claims easier. I just find claims of Platner committing disability fraud to be unfounded.
The claim is of a certain disability. It isn’t the disabled person’s fault if the VA, following the law and regulations, puts a high percentage number on that disability.
TDIU isn’t required to have the 100% VA disability rating. Plenty of vets are rated 100% and work with absolutely no fraud.
Physician, heal thyself.
Yes, it does and I quoted it.
Cite that he has claimed this? Since this is also not true. PTSD can make you incapable of being in the Military, but perfectly capable of other jobs.
We have pointed this out several times to them.
Because that is no ones business, as medical records are private under Federal law. In any case, the Feds know he is working and know his disability, and they have not reacted. Got a cite?
Exactly. This attack is so bogus it casts doubt on the other “facts” and allegations.
Did everyone here vote for Mills today? ![]()
I think the biggest irony in this thread is that there isn’t anyone actually from Maine here.
Beyond the repetition back and forth here - let’s hypothetically assume he wins the primary today, what, if anything, will his performance in the general inform about the next election cycle?
I mean the theory he is running on is that the Ds will rally around voting against the current shitshow no matter who it is, including establishment types who might usually not be thrilled about an economic populist eat the rich candidate, the progressives out in force, and the disaffected working class not college educated that went to Trump willing to buy a different disruptive CHANGE message this cycle.
Maine is an interesting test of that message I think, albeit confounded with Platner’s own specifics.
In a few hours we’ll know what Mainers decided about this.
I’m guessing Platner will get 51% or a better, meaning there won’t be a runoff—but that Mills will get more votes than anyone would have predicted a month ago.
That said: of COURSE Republicans have prepared an October Surprise. Most likely it will be connected with this:
(^ That’s the ‘mirror photo’ Platner posted on Kik; you can see it by clicking on Babale’s post, which is around #928.)
Democrats need to impress on Platner that HE CANNOT GO ON STONEWALLING about potential accusers—whether underage-at-the-time girls, or adults who could plausibly accuse him of rape or something close enough to rape to matter.
His constant cry of ‘corporate interests are making this up to destroy me’ WILL NOT HELP. That ‘defense’ will be utterly ineffective. He needs to give names and a timeline of all the females he’s had contact with, because Republicans will be making claims about them.
Platner’s only hope is to be able to counter any GOP accusations with names, dates, and witnesses. He has to start working with campaign operatives NOW to get ahead of what the GOP will be planning.
It’s not the Nazi-related tattoo that’s the problem, now. It’s the accusations—no matter how fictitious—from females that will be employed by the GOP to ensure that in November, Democrats are too disgusted to go to the polls.
The allegations will be “fictitious,” yet Platner already knows who will be making them and what they will allege that he did at what times. Curious.
Well, yeah.
Yeah, they are already swiftboating him.
This is one of the oldest and most effective tricks in politics. Every hack in the business has used it in times of trouble, and it has even been elevated to the level of political mythology in a story about one of Lyndon Johnson’s early campaigns in Texas.
“The race was close and Johnson was getting worried. Finally he told his campaign manager to start a massive rumour campaign about his opponent’s life-long habit of enjoying carnal knowledge of his barnyard sows.
“Christ, we can’t get away with calling him a pig-fucker,” the campaign manager protested. “Nobody’s going to believe a thing like that.”
*“I know,” Johnson replied. “But let’s make the sonofabitchh deny it.”
Sometimes, the best answer is to ignore baseless accusations.
He’s running for the Senate. He’s running for the Senate and repeatedly invoking his military service, disability status, and work history while doing so. Graham Platner has no expectation of privacy and should not insult voters further by invoking it. Don’t like it? Don’t run for one of the most powerful political offices on the planet.
trump and co are swiftboating him, if trump and his crew of deplorables knew Platner was defrauding the government, they would have already arrested him.
And again “But let’s make the sonofabitchh deny it.”
And you are the only one making these baseless claims, do you think Platner needs to share his medical records just to make you happy?
No, run for President and keep your current medical reports totally secret!
No, the point is that the allegations will almost certainly be made by some female Platner HAS met (and likely, dated).
If the Dems have a timeline with facts and witnesses, they can respond nearly immediately about any accusation. For example ‘she says he raped her on 5-3-2010 but he was in Canada, not where she said he was, on that date’.
That type of thing.
Platner and his campaign staff need to be prepared with far more than a generic “they’re making this up to smear me.”
They already had a GOP operative make baseless accusations- and posters here believed them.
Her accusations weren’t about sexual abuse, though. They were entertained even by the skeptical, likely because they fell something short of ‘there should have been charges filed.’ They were unpleasant enough to bother many, of course, quite reasonably.
The October Surprise will likely be more ugly.
I’m still waiting for an explanation of what “pretendicide” is.
Am I left to speculate? OK, something I would never do, because I love her, but hypothetically, if I killed Chrissy Hynde, is that pretendicide? Because in that case, I would at least capitalize the “p”.
Pretendicide = Gaza.