Are there any restraints on people with dual citizenship?

[Melbourne]

@coremelt

This is GQ so I’m going to ask for a cite on what law is being broken. I believe the consul was simply mistaken. For people who have dual citizenships when travelling between both countries using one to leave and the other one to enter is the only logical and practical way to do it.

Anyway, the US has no legal authority over what Passport you present to the immigration officer of another sovereign state which you are a citizen of. So again, the consul was mistaken.

The American Consul in Melbourne told me that the Americans did not approve of me flying to America on an Aus ID. That is, getting a visa, buying a ticket, presenting an Aus ID to the airline, and flying to America.

Regardless of what the Aus authorities might say about me leaving Aus not using my Aus passport.

America has notificaiton rules for travel into the USA, and the American Consul told me that these notification rules did envisage people changing passports mid-flight, entering the flight on one passport, entering the country on a different one.

These procedures are still gradually tightning up, so I suppose that they will have to come to terms with it some day. Perhaps America will make dual-citizenship more difficult again, as it was when I was a boy.

[Esco]

I have Dutch-Canadian dual citizenship, and AFAIK I could run for Prime Minister in both countries if I wanted to

[TokyoBayer]

@Melbourne

The American Consul in Melbourne told me that the Americans did not approve of me flying to America on an Aus ID. That is, getting a visa, buying a ticket, presenting an Aus ID to the airline, and flying to America.

My bolding.

Why would you attempt to obtain a US visa if you are a US citizen? You can’t do that. You must enter the US with your US passport.

Regardless of what the Aus authorities might say about me leaving Aus not using my Aus passport.

America has notificaiton rules for travel into the USA, and the American Consul told me that these notification rules did envisage people changing passports mid-flight, entering the flight on one passport, entering the country on a different one.

These procedures are still gradually tightning up, so I suppose that they will have to come to terms with it some day. Perhaps America will make dual-citizenship more difficult again, as it was when I was a boy.

Here straight from the horse’s mouth is what the State Department says:

@Official US policy

Most U.S. nationals, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States. Dual nationals may also be required by the foreign country to use its passport to enter and leave that country. Use of the foreign passport does not endanger U.S. nationality.

Your claim makes no sense.

[UDS]

@Melbourne

The American Consul in Melbourne told me that the Americans did not approve of me flying to America on an Aus ID. That is, getting a visa, buying a ticket, presenting an Aus ID to the airline, and flying to America.

As others have pointed out, as a US citizen you don’t need a US visa to enter the US. If you apply to the US government for a US visa and you disclose your US nationality (or if they otherwise become aware of your US nationality) you’ll be refused.

It sounds as though what the consul had in mind was you flying to the US without using your US passport at any point - i.e. producing your Australian passport on arrival in the US.

But I don’t think they have any difficulty about you producing your Australian passport when leaving Australia. Why would they? It’s none of their concern.

[I_wasn_t_truly_absent]

A “Fundraiser” for the “Irish cultural institute” has dual citizenship, you people shouldn’t hand out your passports or give your money to criminals

[UDS]

@I_wasn_t_truly_absent

A “Fundraiser” for the “Irish cultural institute” has dual citizenship, you people shouldn’t hand out your passports or give your money to criminals

Sorry, what? I think everything but the first and last lines of your post got dropped by mistake.

[Melbourne]

@TokyoBayer

My bolding.

Why would you attempt to obtain a US visa if you are a US citizen? You can’t do that. You must enter the US with your US passport.
Here straight from the horse’s mouth is what the State Department says:Your claim makes no sense.

Originally Posted by Official US policy
Most U.S. nationals, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States. Dual nationals may also be required by the foreign country to use its passport to enter and leave that country. Use of the foreign passport does not endanger U.S. nationality.

Of course, neither I nor anybody else ever suggested that it would “endanger nationality”.

As I said, I was told that it was against inward flight passenger list notification rules.

[TokyoBayer]

@Melbourne

Of course, neither I nor anybody else ever suggested that it would “endanger nationality”.

As I said, I was told that it was against inward flight passenger list notification rules.

I’m not saying you did suggest “endangering nationality.” I used that quote to show that what you reported by the consulate is incorrect by the State Department’s own rules. They permit people to use separate passports to leave a foreign country and enter the US. Our own family does it regularly.

You didn’t answer the question.

Why would you attempt to obtain a US visa if you are a US citizen? You can’t do that. You must enter the US with your US passport.

[md2000]

I recall in a earlier thread, someone mentioned that you CANNOT enter the USA except on your US passport if you are a US citizen. (Mentioned the case of a child born in the USA to Israeli parents, then had not been back to the USA. First went there on a business trip and was denied entry with his Israeli passport, I presume because the CBP saw his US birthplace listed.)

I guess the question is, can you register and sign up for the airline ticket, fill in all the travel details, etc. with your Australian passport, then show up at US customs with a US passport? I presume they match names and passport documents to a list of passengers that DHS gets from the airline, and would be a bit ticked to find someone confusing the situation? Of course as a US citien with a US passport, can they deny you entry?

[Okrahoma]

@md2000

I recall in a earlier thread, someone mentioned that you CANNOT enter the USA except on your US passport if you are a US citizen. (Mentioned the case of a child born in the USA to Israeli parents, then had not been back to the USA. First went there on a business trip and was denied entry with his Israeli passport, I presume because the CBP saw his US birthplace listed.)

I guess the question is, can you register and sign up for the airline ticket, fill in all the travel details, etc. with your Australian passport, then show up at US customs with a US passport? I presume they match names and passport documents to a list of passengers that DHS gets from the airline, and would be a bit ticked to find someone confusing the situation? Of course as a US citien with a US passport, can they deny you entry?

I presume that since you have both the Australian and US passport, you can show them both. And no, if you’re a US passport holder, they cannot deny you entry.