# Are there any versions of 2001 in which Bowman says "My God, It's Full of Stars!"? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 23, 2009, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-versions-of-2001-in-which-bowman-says-my-god-its-full-of-stars/487040 "2009-02-23T13:12:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-versions-of-2001-in-which-bowman-says-my-god-its-full-of-stars/487040/21 "2009-02-24T02:34:22Z")
[Here’s](http://www.wavsource.com/snds_2009-02-22_218934154899792/movies/2010/full_of_stars.wav) the sound file from 2010. ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-versions-of-2001-in-which-bowman-says-my-god-its-full-of-stars/487040/22 "2009-02-24T12:59:31Z")
> [@RiverRunner](#): > > You know what’s weirder than that? I distinctly remember Stay-Puft marshmallows from my childhood. (I was born in 1961.) I even remember the image of [Mr. Stay-Puft](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Stay-puff-marshmellow-man-film.jpg) on the bag. The only problem is that Stay-Puft marshmallows never existed; they – and Mr. S-P – were invented for use in _Ghostbusters_ in 1984. I still can hardly believe it. > > RR I have a personal gripe about that. I saw _Ghostbusters_ with friends; they sat in the theater with me and saw the giant marshmallow with that hat that says “Mr. Stay-Puft” in giant letters. They heard the characters clearly enunciate “Mr. Stay-Puft.” Yet, despite seeing and hearing it used this way, for years they insisted the term was “Mr. Stay-_Puff_.” Even though that makes no sense – the (imaginary) marketing hook is that the marshmallows “stay puffed” instead of getting wadded up in the bag. It only makes sense if the marshmallows are the objects of being puffed up; it’s gotta have the “-ed” on there. Inevitably I made them watch the videotape and we’d pause it and read “Mr. Stay-Puft.” “Huh,” they’d concede. Within a few months, however, someone would make an off-hand comment about “Mr. Stay-Puff.” I don’t understand why this one was so hard for so many people. ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-versions-of-2001-in-which-bowman-says-my-god-its-full-of-stars/487040/23 "2009-02-24T14:14:56Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > [Here’s](http://www.wavsource.com/snds_2009-02-22_218934154899792/movies/2010/full_of_stars.wav) the sound file from 2010. Second time in two days - that link only works if you copy and paste it into the browser. If you just click on it, you get Amazon. ---
**Author:** ![JohnM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/848f3c/32.png) [@JohnM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnM)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-versions-of-2001-in-which-bowman-says-my-god-its-full-of-stars/487040/24 "2009-02-24T19:16:20Z")
> [@Wendell\_Wagner](#): > > How could you have seen any of the deleted scenes anywhere else except there? From later in the same Wiki entry, “Some critics viewed the original 160-minute cut shown at premieres in Washington, New York and Los Angeles…” ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-versions-of-2001-in-which-bowman-says-my-god-its-full-of-stars/487040/25 "2009-02-24T21:14:34Z")
> [@Wendell\_Wagner](#): > > Voyager writes: > > \> I saw it in the Capitol theater in NY where it opened, and where Kubrick set > \> everything up, and that line was definitely not in the movie. There is no dialog > \> at all after “Its origin and purpose, still a total mystery.” Kubrick did cut a bunch > \> of stuff after opening night, but not that. > > The world premiere of _2001_ was at the Uptown Theater in Washington, D.C.: > > [2001: A Space Odyssey - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001:_A_Space_Odyssey_(film)) > > How could you have seen any of the deleted scenes anywhere else except there? Your link leads to a blank page now. I didn’t see the deleted scenes - I saw it there, but well after the premiere. Kubrick cut after the initial critical reactions, and I’m fairly sure he did the cutting in New York. it did have premieres in New York and LA - I’ve never read of one in Washington. It did start off in limited release in a limited number of Cinerama theaters before opening more broadly. They sold programs at these (I still have mine) but not at the roadshow screenings. Back then at most theaters you paid for the movie and stayed for more than one showing if you wanted to. The showings in the Cinerama theater were for specific showings, more like we have today. Maybe you have a better link to a worldwide premiere in Washington? A local premiere, with good publicity, I believe. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-versions-of-2001-in-which-bowman-says-my-god-its-full-of-stars/487040/26 "2009-02-24T21:18:24Z")
> [@JohnM](#): > > From later in the same Wiki entry, “Some critics viewed the original 160-minute cut shown at premieres in Washington, New York and Los Angeles…” Let me see if I can find the dates of these. I know Kubrick was at the NY premiere. Maybe they opened in Washington for NASA. There are also premieres and premieres. An acting friend of my daughter was in a movie, and the company premiered it near his house (and near the house of another principal) in suburban Philadelphia. That was a premiere, but not quite the premiere I assume there was in Hollywood with the adult star. ---
**Author:** ![h.sapiens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e0b2c6/32.png) [@h.sapiens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/h.sapiens)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-versions-of-2001-in-which-bowman-says-my-god-its-full-of-stars/487040/27 "2009-02-24T21:46:27Z")
> [@Sailboat](#): > > I have a personal gripe about that. I saw _Ghostbusters_ with friends; they sat in the theater with me and saw the giant marshmallow with that hat that says “Mr. Stay-Puft” in giant letters. They heard the characters clearly enunciate “Mr. Stay-Puft.” > > Yet, despite seeing and hearing it used this way, for years they insisted the term was “Mr. Stay-_Puff_.” Even though that makes no sense – the (imaginary) marketing hook is that the marshmallows “stay puffed” instead of getting wadded up in the bag. It only makes sense if the marshmallows are the objects of being puffed up; it’s gotta have the “-ed” on there. > > Inevitably I made them watch the videotape and we’d pause it and read “Mr. Stay-Puft.” “Huh,” they’d concede. Within a few months, however, someone would make an off-hand comment about “Mr. Stay-Puff.” > > I don’t understand why this one was so hard for so many people. I think they may have been confusing it with [Sta-Puf fabric softener](http://www.tias.com/3943/PictPage/1922960019.html), which had been around for a while before the movie. ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-versions-of-2001-in-which-bowman-says-my-god-its-full-of-stars/487040/28 "2009-02-25T00:14:38Z")
Sorry, I screwed up the Wikipedia link. That happens when the Wikipedia entry ends with a parenthesis. Voyager writes: \> I’ve never read of one in Washington. Of course the world premiere was in Washington. Here’s a couple of links: [http://pages.prodigy.com/kubrick/kub2001.htm](http://pages.prodigy.com/kubrick/kub2001.htm) [http://www.in70mm.com/news/2004/2001\_in\_70mm/index.htm](http://www.in70mm.com/news/2004/2001_in_70mm/index.htm) If you check Wikipedia, you’ll find it mentioned in the entry for the movie. I’m astonished that you don’t know that the world premiere was in Washington. I thought that was well known to any hardcore fan of the film. I went to a special twenty-fifth anniversary showing of the film on April 2, 1993 at the Uptown Theater. They played a message from Clarke that he recorded just for that occasion. ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-versions-of-2001-in-which-bowman-says-my-god-its-full-of-stars/487040/29 "2009-02-25T01:02:36Z")
> [@h.sapiens](#): > > I think they may have been confusing it with [Sta-Puf fabric softener](http://www.tias.com/3943/PictPage/1922960019.html), which had been around for a while before the movie. I’m not sure any of my college friends used fabric softener – some of them didn’t seem to even do laundry. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-versions-of-2001-in-which-bowman-says-my-god-its-full-of-stars/487040/30 "2009-02-25T01:44:54Z")
> [@Wendell\_Wagner](#): > > Sorry, I screwed up the Wikipedia link. That happens when the Wikipedia entry ends with a parenthesis. > > Voyager writes: > > \> I’ve never read of one in Washington. > > Of course the world premiere was in Washington. Here’s a couple of links: > > [http://pages.prodigy.com/kubrick/kub2001.htm](http://pages.prodigy.com/kubrick/kub2001.htm) > > [http://www.in70mm.com/news/2004/2001\_in\_70mm/index.htm](http://www.in70mm.com/news/2004/2001_in_70mm/index.htm) > > If you check Wikipedia, you’ll find it mentioned in the entry for the movie. > > I’m astonished that you don’t know that the world premiere was in Washington. I thought that was well known to any hardcore fan of the film. I went to a special twenty-fifth anniversary showing of the film on April 2, 1993 at the Uptown Theater. They played a message from Clarke that he recorded just for that occasion. > [@](#): > > Screening for Life Magazine - March 29, 1968 > Washington D. C. Press Previews - March 31, April 1, 1968 > Washington D.C. World Premiere - April 2, 1968 > New York Press Previews - April 1-2, 1968 > New York Premiere - April 3, 1968 > Los Angeles Premiere - April 4th, 1968 > Kubrick cuts 19 minutes from film - April 4-5, 1968 > Final cut shown in New York - April 6th, 1968 Aha - the final cut was first shown in New York. So there. 😃 I think knowing he did the cutting in New York threw me. Clearly he paid attention to the New York critics. I guess I was suffering from there being nothing important between the Hudson and LA syndrome. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-versions-of-2001-in-which-bowman-says-my-god-its-full-of-stars/487040.md?page=1)