# Are there atheists who are not really arrogant? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 31, 2013, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-atheists-who-are-not-really-arrogant/654475 "2013-03-31T23:53:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-atheists-who-are-not-really-arrogant/654475/201 "2013-04-03T19:08:42Z")
Haven’t read the thread, but wanted to post this that I saw on fb: (Quoted and spoilered to save space): > [@](#): > > Professor : You are a Christian, aren’t you, son ? > > Student : Yes, sir. > > Professor: So, you believe in GOD ? > > Student : Absolutely, sir. > > Professor : Is GOD good ? > > Student : Sure. > > Professor: Is GOD all powerful ? > > Student : Yes. > > Professor: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to GOD to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didn’t. How is this GOD good then? Hmm? > > (Student was silent.) > > Professor: You can’t answer, can you ? Let’s start again, young fella. Is GOD good? > > Student : Yes. > > Professor: Is satan good ? > > Student : No. > > Professor: Where does satan come from ? > > Student : From … GOD … > > Professor: That’s right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world? > > Student : Yes. > > Professor: Evil is everywhere, isn’t it ? And GOD did make everything. Correct? > > Student : Yes. > > Professor: So who created evil ? > > (Student did not answer.) > > Professor: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don’t they? > > Student : Yes, sir. > > Professor: So, who created them ? > > (Student had no answer.) > > Professor: Science says you have 5 Senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son, have you ever seen GOD? > > Student : No, sir. > > Professor: Tell us if you have ever heard your GOD? > > Student : No , sir. > > Professor: Have you ever felt your GOD, tasted your GOD, smelt your GOD? Have you ever had any sensory perception of GOD for that matter? > > Student : No, sir. I’m afraid I haven’t. > > Professor: Yet you still believe in Him? > > Student : Yes. > > Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesn’t exist. What do you say to that, son? > > Student : Nothing. I only have my faith. > > Professor: Yes, faith. And that is the problem Science has. > > Student : Professor, is there such a thing as heat? > > Professor: Yes. > > Student : And is there such a thing as cold? > > Professor: Yes. > > Student : No, sir. There isn’t. > > (The lecture theater became very quiet with this turn of events.) > > Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don’t have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can’t go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it. > > (There was pin-drop silence in the lecture theater.) > > Student : What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness? > > Professor: Yes. What is night if there isn’t darkness? > > Student : You’re wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light. But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and its called darkness, isn’t it? In reality, darkness isn’t. If it is, well you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn’t you? > > Professor: So what is the point you are making, young man ? > > Student : Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed. > > Professor: Flawed ? Can you explain how? > > Student : Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good GOD and a bad GOD. You are viewing the concept of GOD as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, Science can’t even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. > > Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey? > > Professor: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do. > > Student : Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir? > > (The Professor shook his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument was going.) > > Student : Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor. Are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher? > > (The class was in uproar.) > > Student : Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor’s brain? > > (The class broke out into laughter. ) > > Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor’s brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir? > > (The room was silent. The Professor stared at the student, his face unfathomable.) > > Professor: I guess you’ll have to take them on faith, son. > > Student : That is it sir … Exactly ! The link between man & GOD is FAITH. That is all that keeps things alive and moving. > > P.S. > > I believe you have enjoyed the conversation. And if so, you’ll probably want your friends / colleagues to enjoy the same, won’t you? > > Forward this to increase their knowledge … or FAITH. > > By the way, that student was EINSTEIN. > Share ---
**Author:** ![Jman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jman/32/4416_2.png) [@Jman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jman)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-atheists-who-are-not-really-arrogant/654475/202 "2013-04-03T19:11:31Z")
Troppus - I don’t doubt that you experienced the ‘fearmongering’ side of Christianity…and there are a lot of denominations that go hard core on the whole hell thing. But please do realize there are a LOT that don’t. I was raised Presbyterian, and I’m a ‘practicing’ Lutheran right now (though calling me practicing is stretching it…I basically go to church occasionally with my wife, and on easter and Christmas with family). I’m somewhat agnostic at this point, and I have serious issues with quite a lot of the Bible. I absolutely don’t believe the Bible as literal truth, but more as a book of lessons (many of which I also don’t really agree with) that were appropriate for the audience at the time it was written. I don’t think any organized religion has anything really close to the truth, but something inside tells me there’s more than just matter, even though my brain tells me that more than likely when I die, I’ll just blink out. I’m OK with that, and I’m OK if there’s something spiritual as well, but anyway, I’m getting derailed… Luckily, our pastor preaches much in this same manner (the somewhat metaphorical interpretation of the bible)…teaching a lot of the stories as parables and allegories/metaphors rather than to be interpreted literally. There’s no teaching of the creation story as truth, acknowledging evolution, often bringing science lessons into the church to describe how they coexist. Of course, there’s still faith, divinity of Christ, etc… But I’ve never heard a sermon about hell. My daughter in Sunday school has never heard a lesson about hell. When I discuss religion with my daughter, it’s more the spiratual/love side, and never about the ‘God will punish you and damn you to eternal torture.’ Nor would I, since I think hell is a load of crap. But, there are plenty of churches who do not try and preach faith through fear, but rather faith as a guiding prinicple for experiencing love and kindness and as a means to teach compassion. I know it’s certainly not the only way to teach compassion, but I’m OK with it in this manner. So, I think if you’ve only met Christians who have been scared to death by the torment of hell, then you’ve not had a very broad exposure. I know there are a lot (maybe even a majority) who do…but it sure as heck ain’t all of them. ---
**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-atheists-who-are-not-really-arrogant/654475/203 "2013-04-03T19:14:32Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > Yes - as I said in the ATMB thread, **Bijou Drains** is a simple twit. A jerk, by Board standards. I’m sorry I can’t bring the flame as befits a quality Pitting - but he’s kinda not worth the trouble. Just a twit. I glanced through this thread, and if there’s a link here to the ATMB thread I missed it. [Wordman asking if this thread is trolling](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=686922). And here are Bijou Drains’ contributions (minus a small amount of filler): > [@How is this OP not trolling? (IMHO thread about Atheists)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-this-op-not-trolling-imho-thread-about-atheists/654563/45): > > (…) > BTW I am Buddhist which has no God. > [@How is this OP not trolling? (IMHO thread about Atheists)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-this-op-not-trolling-imho-thread-about-atheists/654563/48): > > (…) > BTW how is Worm Food Jobs doing these days? Have not seen him around for over a year? Did he get better? > [@How is this OP not trolling? (IMHO thread about Atheists)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-this-op-not-trolling-imho-thread-about-atheists/654563/52): > > He did not die did he? I mean , the man walked on water, no way could Worm Food Jobs die!! > [@How is this OP not trolling? (IMHO thread about Atheists)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-this-op-not-trolling-imho-thread-about-atheists/654563/55): > > You guys take this board WAY too seriously. So not just a twit… twit, jerk, arrogant and trollish. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-atheists-who-are-not-really-arrogant/654475/204 "2013-04-03T19:15:23Z")
> [@pancakes3](#): > > Haven’t read the thread, but wanted to post this that I saw on fb: > > (Quoted and spoilered to save space): That anecdote is glurgy bullshit, by the way, no matter who the student ended up being. ---
**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-atheists-who-are-not-really-arrogant/654475/205 "2013-04-03T19:19:47Z")
Oh absolutely. I just read the title of the pitted thread and thought I’d show that Christians can be arrogant asses in their own right - except be woefully ignorant in their indignation. For example, Einstein was Jewish. ---
**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-atheists-who-are-not-really-arrogant/654475/206 "2013-04-03T19:24:59Z")
Obligatory Snopes link: [Did Albert Einstein Humiliate an Atheist Professor? | Snopes.com](http://www.snopes.com/religion/einstein.asp) ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-atheists-who-are-not-really-arrogant/654475/207 "2013-04-03T19:25:06Z")
Ah. I see. Well … well, your aim was well served. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-atheists-who-are-not-really-arrogant/654475/208 "2013-04-03T19:25:59Z")
> [@pancakes3](#): > > Haven’t read the thread, but wanted to post this that I saw on fb: > > (Quoted and spoilered to save space): What a load of crap. It’s people like you that mindlessly pass unrealistic glurge like this to one and all that cause me not to use Facebook as much as I used to. ---
**Author:** ![Jman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jman/32/4416_2.png) [@Jman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jman)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-atheists-who-are-not-really-arrogant/654475/209 "2013-04-03T19:26:38Z")
> [@Jman](#): > > T There’s no teaching of the creation story as truth, acknowledging evolution, often bringing science lessons into the church to describe how they coexist. This is meant to say “there’s no teaching of the creation story as truth, he acknowledges evolution, often…” In other words, no denying of science…the stuff on faith is for things that can’t be explained/examined, since they are intrinsic to ‘you’. They’re the non-observable. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-atheists-who-are-not-really-arrogant/654475/210 "2013-04-03T19:29:18Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > And no, agnosticism is not just about “sucking up to” the religious. Of course it is. The agnostic starts from the position that one hypothetical entity (God) is a different sort of thing than all other hypothetical entities. Agnosticism is not epistemologically neutral. I’m an atheist. I don’t believe that God exists. Am I absolutely certain that this point of view is correct? No, I’m not. But then, I’m not absolutely sure about ANYTHING. I’m not ABSOLUTELY sure that I’m not a brain in a jar. I’m not ABSOLUTELY sure that the sun rose this morning. All I can do is state my beliefs based on my current best interpretation of the evidence at hand: “No, I’m not a brain in a jar.” “Yes, the sun rose this morning.” “No, there is no God.” Singling out my uncertainty over the non-existence of God for special consideration would be silly. The only reason to do it would be because the theists have created the impression that the question of God’s non-existence is something special and important; that it’s the one question where it’s really super-duper important to emphasize that you’re not ABSOLUTELY sure. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-atheists-who-are-not-really-arrogant/654475/211 "2013-04-03T19:49:52Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > Best answer so far, thank you. > > FTR he hasn’t brought it up since. I’ve had a lot of practice. 😛 Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![Troppus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@Troppus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troppus)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-atheists-who-are-not-really-arrogant/654475/212 "2013-04-03T19:59:04Z")
> [@Jman](#): > > But I’ve never heard a sermon about hell. My daughter in Sunday school has never heard a lesson about hell. When I discuss religion with my daughter, it’s more the spiratual/love side, and never about the ‘God will punish you and damn you to eternal torture.’ Nor would I, since I think hell is a load of crap. But, there are plenty of churches who do not try and preach faith through fear, but rather faith as a guiding prinicple for experiencing love and kindness and as a means to teach compassion. > > I know it’s certainly not the only way to teach compassion, but I’m OK with it in this manner. So, I think if you’ve only met Christians who have been scared to death by the torment of hell, then you’ve not had a very broad exposure. I know there are a lot (maybe even a majority) who do…but it sure as heck ain’t all of them. I appreciate your input, but you’ve got me wrong. I attended a low-key Methodist church primarily, followed by Catholic, Presbyterian, and Baptist (and a couple trips to a Pentecostal church) growing up, and none of them caused me any trauma beyond raised eyebrows. I was a pretty savvy kid, and while I kind of quietly hated some cruel parents and crueler preachers, I mostly felt sorry for those kids raised with fear and shame. I minded my manners and did what was expected to “pass” as a Christian; I loved my friends and didn’t blame them for subscribing to the myths and fears their parents had subjected them too since birth. I’m disgusted by the fear-mongers, sure, but the entire mythology is a huge waste of time, IMO, even those denominations which are kinder and gentler than the fire and brimstone variety. Humans are social animals and empathy is wired-in; we can take care of one another with or without myths. But religion isn’t going out of style so long as it is such a convenient scapegoat parents and politicians use to control others, and since we all want to live forever: it’s got staying power. I don’t entertain the idea that I can change that, and I bow my head, return salutations and go along with the status quo just fine. We’ll see what happens the first time someone attempts to intimidate and terrify my daughter though. Shit might get real then. ---
**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-atheists-who-are-not-really-arrogant/654475/213 "2013-04-03T20:03:47Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > What a load of crap. It’s people like you that mindlessly pass unrealistic glurge like this to one and all that cause me not to use Facebook as much as I used to. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-atheists-who-are-not-really-arrogant/654475/214 "2013-04-03T20:12:15Z")
> [@Baal\_Houtham](#): > > I glanced through this thread, and if there’s a link here to the ATMB thread I missed it. [Wordman asking if this thread is trolling](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=686922). And here are Bijou Drains’ contributions (minus a small amount of filler): > > So not just a twit… twit, jerk, arrogant and trollish. I linked it back in Post #89, but I appreciate you making sure the connection between threads is there - and yeah, **BD** is jerkish enough… ---
**Author:** ![perfectparanoia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a5b964/32.png) [@perfectparanoia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/perfectparanoia)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-atheists-who-are-not-really-arrogant/654475/215 "2013-04-03T20:12:18Z")
> [@Jman](#): > > Troppus - I don’t doubt that you experienced the ‘fearmongering’ side of Christianity…and there are a lot of denominations that go hard core on the whole hell thing. But please do realize there are a LOT that don’t. I was raised Presbyterian, and I’m a ‘practicing’ Lutheran right now (though calling me practicing is stretching it…I basically go to church occasionally with my wife, and on easter and Christmas with family). I’m somewhat agnostic at this point, and I have serious issues with quite a lot of the Bible. I absolutely don’t believe the Bible as literal truth, but more as a book of lessons (many of which I also don’t really agree with) that were appropriate for the audience at the time it was written. I don’t think any organized religion has anything really close to the truth, but something inside tells me there’s more than just matter, even though my brain tells me that more than likely when I die, I’ll just blink out. I’m OK with that, and I’m OK if there’s something spiritual as well, but anyway, I’m getting derailed… > > Luckily, our pastor preaches much in this same manner (the somewhat metaphorical interpretation of the bible)…teaching a lot of the stories as parables and allegories/metaphors rather than to be interpreted literally. There’s no teaching of the creation story as truth, acknowledging evolution, often bringing science lessons into the church to describe how they coexist. Of course, there’s still faith, divinity of Christ, etc… > > But I’ve never heard a sermon about hell. My daughter in Sunday school has never heard a lesson about hell. When I discuss religion with my daughter, it’s more the spiratual/love side, and never about the ‘God will punish you and damn you to eternal torture.’ Nor would I, since I think hell is a load of crap. But, there are plenty of churches who do not try and preach faith through fear, but rather faith as a guiding prinicple for experiencing love and kindness and as a means to teach compassion. > > I know it’s certainly not the only way to teach compassion, but I’m OK with it in this manner. So, I think if you’ve only met Christians who have been scared to death by the torment of hell, then you’ve not had a very broad exposure. I know there are a lot (maybe even a majority) who do…but it sure as heck ain’t all of them. What he said. In fact, things like Purgatory aren’t even mentioned in the Bible, for example. My kids don’t even know what Hell is. ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-atheists-who-are-not-really-arrogant/654475/216 "2013-04-03T20:20:07Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > What a load of crap. It’s people like you that mindlessly pass unrealistic glurge like this to one and all that cause me not to use Facebook as much as I used to. Y’didn’t read further down the thread, did ya. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-atheists-who-are-not-really-arrogant/654475/217 "2013-04-03T20:57:16Z")
> [@pancakes3](#): > > ☹ Sorry about that-didn’t see the followup post. ---
**Author:** ![Troppus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@Troppus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troppus)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-atheists-who-are-not-really-arrogant/654475/218 "2013-04-03T20:58:48Z")
> [@perfectparanoia](#): > > What he said. In fact, things like Purgatory aren’t even mentioned in the Bible, for example. > > My kids don’t even know what Hell is. Do they know why a “loving God” lets kids get raped, die of cancer, and die in a hail of bullets but still “loves and watches over them”? ---
**Author:** ![Razncain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9d8465/32.png) [@Razncain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Razncain)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-atheists-who-are-not-really-arrogant/654475/219 "2013-04-03T21:06:42Z")
> [@pancakes3](#): > > Oh absolutely. I just read the title of the pitted thread and thought I’d show that Christians can be arrogant asses in their own right - except be woefully ignorant in their indignation. Generally when others share such incredulous stories, they are trying to show how theists show up the atheists as uppity-think-they-know-it-all-types who didn’t know so much after all. > [@](#): > > For example, Einstein was Jewish. Jewish only by tradition, and he started questioning the biblical stories at the age of twelve, IIRC. He recognized other things were important for the Jewish people, the ideal of social justice, the tradition of their forefathers, their accomplishments etc. But the one thing he didn’t profess in was a man of Jewish faith, thinking the Jewish God was simply a superstition. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-atheists-who-are-not-really-arrogant/654475/220 "2013-04-03T21:16:13Z")
> [@razncain](#): > > Generally when others share such incredulous stories, they are trying to show how theists show up the atheists as uppity-think-they-know-it-all-types who didn’t know so much after all. It’s an annoying style of writing, too, for this type of material. Drives me nuts. Sounds like writing aimed at at young children, or evocative of that type of voice. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-atheists-who-are-not-really-arrogant/654475.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-atheists-who-are-not-really-arrogant/654475.md?page=12)