# Are there Confederate flaggers parading in your streets? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [July 18, 2015, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-confederate-flaggers-parading-in-your-streets/725553 "2015-07-18T22:36:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-confederate-flaggers-parading-in-your-streets/725553/61 "2015-07-20T15:09:14Z")
A couple of small ones around my part of east Texas. And as has been mentioned many times in the thread, always on pickups. About the same number as before, so I’m not surprised. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-confederate-flaggers-parading-in-your-streets/725553/62 "2015-07-20T15:22:07Z")
We’re in NY and while there are a lot of rednecks here it is really weird to see the Confederate flag. But while we were driving out west looking for houses to rent, we saw one about 30 minutes outside of Albany. What do you think you are representing anyway? If you want to demonstrate your affiliation with Southern charm and hospitality, bake a buttermilk pie and share it with your neighbors. Don’t hang up a flag. Oh! And I saw a “Don’t Tread on Me” flag. I felt like I had entered a time warp. No parades, thankfully! ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-confederate-flaggers-parading-in-your-streets/725553/63 "2015-07-20T15:22:15Z")
I live in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida, which is pretty progressive and has a sizable gay population. I’ve only seen one confederate flag, and it was a ridiculously full sized one flying on the back of a pick-up truck. The guy driving was white (naturally), smoking a cigarette, and wearing a tank top and camouflage hat. He fit a few stereotypes, but, alas, no truck nuts. [QUOTE=GusNSpot] Will you refuse to do business with anyone who still lives in the South and has a Rebel flag… [/QUOTE] I don’t know if he has a rebel flag, but I’ve stopped using the racist handyman I had. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-confederate-flaggers-parading-in-your-streets/725553/64 "2015-07-20T15:34:17Z")
> [@GusNSpot](#): > > Does anyone in this thread agree with this? > > Has anyone in this thread actually gone out and got in the face of and removed the flag from anyone not you related to you that you know you can push around? > > Anyone in this thread who has a father or mother or MIL or FIL that flew one until you got in their face and called them a traitor and forcibly removed it? > > Please give verifiable details of your proud defense of the US of A. > > Anyone in this thread put their money where their mouth is and moved out of the states considered South in this thread? > > Will you refuse to do business with anyone who still lives in the South and has a Rebel flag unless they shit on and post it on the big three internet social sites? > > Will you call all relatives that have a rebel flag a traitor at the next Christmas gathering? > > I believe this thread is so full of bull shit & is stuffed full of what is so wrong with people in general and … Aw hell, you all make me want to spit. > > Yeah, you all have the ‘high road’… ( can’t even come close with all this hot air as there will never be enough of it to even get you out of the low road bar ditch. ) What did Shakespeare say… much ado about nothing? ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-confederate-flaggers-parading-in-your-streets/725553/65 "2015-07-20T15:46:50Z")
On Father’s Day, a few days after the church shooting in Charleston, but before the Confederate flag kerfuffle had really got rolling, we drove to Tampa and back, taking some back roads. That day I saw three Confederate flags displayed on people’s houses (one was being used for curtains). I was a little surprised to see that many. Now, although they’ve never been an unusual sight here in North Florida, I’ve seen a slight increase. I saw a huge flag yesterday with a razorback hog in the center of it. It was flying in the bed of a pickup truck, of course. ---
**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-confederate-flaggers-parading-in-your-streets/725553/66 "2015-07-20T16:13:21Z")
I’ve seen more than usual in my rural central Virginia town, and [there was a rally in nearby Greene County](http://www.dailyprogress.com/greenenews/news/protesters-say-it-s-heritage-not-hate/article_1f235392-2b16-11e5-b617-4b9cbc5df033.html). ---
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-confederate-flaggers-parading-in-your-streets/725553/67 "2015-07-20T16:25:51Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > Oh! And I saw a “Don’t Tread on Me” flag. I felt like I had entered a time warp. I live not too far from the New Hampshire border, and see those occasionally, as a symbol of Tea Party nutters. > [@GusNSpot](#): > > Anyone in this thread put their money where their mouth is and moved out of the states considered South in this thread? Yes. Glad I left. Visiting family there is like entering an unpleasant time warp. Not my family, several of whom I miss, but so much of the attitudes and norms of society. People in my age group and younger are working to bring the place into the late 20th century. > [@](#): > > Will you refuse to do business with anyone who still lives in the South and has a Rebel flag unless they shit on and post it on the big three internet social sites? Well, no, because that would be crude and crass. Also unhygienic. > [@](#): > > Will you call all relatives that have a rebel flag a traitor at the next Christmas gathering? No. I don’t wait for Christmas. I call that particular relative an asshole year-round. The rebel flag is only one of many, many signs. ---
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-confederate-flaggers-parading-in-your-streets/725553/68 "2015-07-20T16:29:00Z")
> [@Dung\_Beetle](#): > > Now, although they’ve never been an unusual sight here in North Florida, I’ve seen a slight increase. Where in North Florida, if you don’t mind me asking? I lived in Jacksonville from 1987-2008. Worked for the company that employed one of the heads of the local chapter of the NAAWP. Recently explained the Jeb Stuart Middle School renaming flap to a friend, and also that Lee High School is still named after Robert E. Lee. > [@John\_Mace](#): > > What did Shakespeare say… much ado about nothing? Sound and fury, signifying nothing? Anger issues? Who knows? For sure… ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-confederate-flaggers-parading-in-your-streets/725553/69 "2015-07-20T16:57:20Z")
> [@GusNSpot](#): > > …Has anyone in this thread actually gone out and got in the face of and removed the flag from anyone not you related to you that you know you can push around? Well, I don’t think that people shouldn’t have the right to fly it, only that those who do so are assholes. I associate forcibly destroying displays with which the viewer disagrees with the kind of person who displays a confederate flag. > [@GusNSpot](#): > > Anyone in this thread who has a father or mother or MIL or FIL that flew one until you got in their face and called them a traitor and forcibly removed it? No one in my family displays one that I know of. I’m embarrassed to admit that I had one in my room when I was a a kid and didn’t know any better. > [@GusNSpot](#): > > Please give verifiable details of your proud defense of the US of A. The closest I come is that I am a foreign aid worker who spent about 2.5 years in Baghdad during the worst of the fighting and not in the green zone, but out in the city. For verification, you can find posts I made of real time events during my time there. > [@GusNSpot](#): > > Anyone in this thread put their money where their mouth is and moved out of the states considered South in this thread? Yes, I moved out of Virginia as soon as I could. My family is actually a FFV (First Family of Virginia) and I had many ancestors who fought in the confederacy. They were all traitors in the service of a repugnant ideal. Their shame is not mine. > [@GusNSpot](#): > > Will you refuse to do business with anyone who still lives in the South and has a Rebel flag unless they shit on and post it on the big three internet social sites? Yes, as I said, I will not enter a shop that displays the confederate flag. It comes up often enough. > [@GusNSpot](#): > > Will you call all relatives that have a rebel flag a traitor at the next Christmas gathering? None of my immediate family display the flag, I have a bunch of 2nd cousins who do, but I don’t see them. I do tell my family that I think that Lee was a traitor and that I don’t understand why we punished John Walker Lindh, the American Taliban, when we didn’t punish our ancestors. This upsets my family to no end, I’m okay with that. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-confederate-flaggers-parading-in-your-streets/725553/70 "2015-07-20T17:15:34Z")
I’m in Gainesville, **GrumpyBunny**. I forgot to mention that most of the hubbub around here is centered on the statue of a Confederate soldier that is on the grounds of the county administration building. So if you go downtown you’re going to see a lot of flags in that area, but I imagine that’ll settle down once the issue of that memorial is dealt with. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-confederate-flaggers-parading-in-your-streets/725553/71 "2015-07-20T17:36:26Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > Oh! And I saw a “Don’t Tread on Me” flag. I felt like I had entered a time warp. That actually celebrates the American Revolution. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-confederate-flaggers-parading-in-your-streets/725553/72 "2015-07-20T17:39:19Z")
> [@GusNSpot](#): > > Please give verifiable details of your proud defense of the US of A. My Dad was a decorated, disabled, WWII vet, started Dec 8th until a year after the war ended. I spent about 30 years sworn to “uphold and defend” the US Constitution. ---
**Author:** ![Stuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-confederate-flaggers-parading-in-your-streets/725553/73 "2015-07-20T17:42:47Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I’m sure there are Confederate [Battle] Flag supporters in California somewhere, but I have to say that it is nice living in a place where the Civil War isn’t really part of local history. It’s true that there was some participation by CA in the CW, but I’ve never heard anyone here talk about it in any personal way. I see one on the way through the Brentwood area. That’s in Nor Cal roughly halfway between Stockton and Concord if you’re not familiar. ---
**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-confederate-flaggers-parading-in-your-streets/725553/74 "2015-07-20T18:01:09Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > We’re in NY and while there are a lot of rednecks here it is really weird to see the Confederate flag. But while we were driving out west looking for houses to rent, we saw one about 30 minutes outside of Albany. > > … > No parades, thankfully! I live about 70 miles south of Albany–same deal. No parades, very unusual to see a Confederate flag under any circumstances. I did see a guy with a Confederate flag emblem on his hat at a rest stop on the NY Thruway just west of Albany recently. Before the events in SC, I would’ve assumed ignorance or misplaced “patriotism,” if indeed he was from the South. This was after the shooting, though, and I can only assume he’s an asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Stuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-confederate-flaggers-parading-in-your-streets/725553/75 "2015-07-20T18:07:30Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > When I visit Virginia to go fishing or hiking, I make a point not to shop anywhere that displays a confederate flag. It’s not uncommon to see them in front of restaurants or shops in rural Virginia. I’ve always assumed these were a warning to black folks to keep out. I can’t be the only black person who thinks so. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-confederate-flaggers-parading-in-your-streets/725553/76 "2015-07-20T18:41:46Z")
> [@Dung\_Beetle](#): > > I’m in Gainesville, **GrumpyBunny**. Then you live in an anomaly amongst North Florida towns, since it is where the University of Florida is. Gainesville has a lot of people who came there from other parts of the state (or elsewhere in the country) and is politically a lot more “liberal” than the rest of that region, being a college town and all. Regards, **Moriarty** , UF class of 2000 (and UF Law Class of 2005). ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-confederate-flaggers-parading-in-your-streets/725553/77 "2015-07-20T18:46:56Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > That actually celebrates the American Revolution. That’s where it’s from, but it’s pretty much been repatriated as a Tea Party flag. Me, I don’t like to have my politics on my lawn at all. Those people know where I live! The closest I have ever come is having an American flag on my door (when I was young, my parents were very proud of having come to this country, and I just like hanging one, personally.) ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-confederate-flaggers-parading-in-your-streets/725553/78 "2015-07-20T19:13:36Z")
I was staffing a DFL Party Voter Registration booth at Rochester, MN yesterday. While walking around, I saw a vendor booth selling all kinds of stuff, including what they labeled ‘[USA Rainbow Flags](http://www.amazon.com/Flagline-Rainbow-USA-Polyester-Flag/dp/B001GZUOR2)’ – USA flags except with the red & white stripes replaced with the rainbow colored stripes. So I thought of asking them if there was a Rainbow Confederate flag available. But I didn’t, because the NAACP booth was next door, and some friends were staffing it. Isn’t this discrimination against gays & lesbians who are also racists? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-confederate-flaggers-parading-in-your-streets/725553/79 "2015-07-20T19:16:06Z")
> [@GrumpyBunny](#): > > Send them up here. I’d like to see a good riot followed by a beat-down. [Here you go](http://dangerousminds.net/comments/nazis_and_kkk_held_a_pro_confederate_flag_rally_in_sc_because_its_all_about)- the Nazis and the KKK had a joint pro-Confederate flag rally in South Carolina. It didn’t go well. I can’t really condone the violence (although it seems to have been minimal) but some of the protesters are amusing (and in the case of [this guy](http://dangerousminds.net/content/uploads/images/kkklroom-0160.jpg) pretty ballsy). Quip of the article: > [@](#): > > “They’re just collecting flags of all the countries the United States beat in war.” ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-confederate-flaggers-parading-in-your-streets/725553/80 "2015-07-20T19:21:24Z")
> [@Stuffy](#): > > I’ve always assumed these were a warning to black folks to keep out. I can’t be the only black person who thinks so. I’m white, but that’s my assumption as well. There is, or was a giant confederate flag flying along 95 outside of Richmond. Some private group put it up. I read an article in the Washington Post that quoted lots of motorists along 95 who were thinking about stopping in Richmond while on their vacation, but when they saw that flag they decided to keep driving until they got out of the state. Quotes like that must make the members of the Richmond Chamber of Commerce’s heads explode. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-confederate-flaggers-parading-in-your-streets/725553.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-confederate-flaggers-parading-in-your-streets/725553.md?page=5)