# Are there Confederate flaggers parading in your streets?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [July 18, 2015, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-confederate-flaggers-parading-in-your-streets/725553 "2015-07-18T22:36:43Z")\
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> [@RandMcnally](#):
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> Haven’t seen a single one. But I’m in Boston, so it isn’t very likely.

> [@GrumpyBunny](#):
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> Ditto. Not a lot of the Old Confederate South up here in Lowell, either.

I’m about half way between Lowell and Boston, and unfortunately our town has two geniuses with pickups flying full sized USA and Confederate flags. Or maybe just one genius with two trucks.

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-confederate-flaggers-parading-in-your-streets/725553/82 "2015-07-20T19:52:13Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> Then you live in an anomaly amongst North Florida towns, since it is where the University of Florida is. Gainesville has a lot of people who came there from other parts of the state (or elsewhere in the country) and is politically a lot more “liberal” than the rest of that region, being a college town and all.
> 
> Regards,  
> **Moriarty** , UF class of 2000 (and UF Law Class of 2005).

I know; ain’t it great? No doubt I could see a lot more Confederate flags if I took a jaunt over to Palatka.

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**Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-confederate-flaggers-parading-in-your-streets/725553/83 "2015-07-20T19:56:31Z")

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Middle Tennessee:

My 7 year old daughter and I were stopped at a light to make a left-hand turn and saw a line of 6 or 7 pick-up trucks flying Confederate flags from their truck beds. My daughter suggested we boo them, so as I made the left-hand turn, we rolled our windows down, gave them the thumbs down sign and booed. I told a couple of other people about it and they had seen these same trucks in different parts of town, so I assume they were parading around town all day Saturday.

I suppose the only silver lining in the midst of all the ignorant assholes defending that flag is that it has provided an opportunity for my daughter and I to have some really good conversations about some really complicated topics that frankly, I would have avoided talking about had she not flat out asked what the big deal about that flag is.

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**Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-confederate-flaggers-parading-in-your-streets/725553/84 "2015-07-20T20:06:20Z")

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New Orleans - I’m seeing more on houses than two weeks ago.

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**Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-confederate-flaggers-parading-in-your-streets/725553/85 "2015-07-20T22:30:58Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> That’s where it’s from, but it’s pretty much been repatriated as a Tea Party flag.

Which is why we need to claim it back.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-confederate-flaggers-parading-in-your-streets/725553/86 "2015-07-20T22:36:07Z")

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There is a car here at my apartment building that since (of all days) the 4th of July, has had a flagpole with a Confederate battle flag on it sticking out of the passenger side.

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**Author:** ![Vaevictis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f04885/32.png) [@Vaevictis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vaevictis)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2015, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-confederate-flaggers-parading-in-your-streets/725553/87 "2015-07-21T04:34:46Z")

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> [@GusNSpot](#):
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> Does anyone in this thread agree with this?
> 
> Has anyone in this thread actually gone out and got in the face of and removed the flag from anyone not you related to you that you know you can push around?
> 
> Anyone in this thread who has a father or mother or MIL or FIL that flew one until you got in their face and called them a traitor and forcibly removed it?
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> Please give verifiable details of your proud defense of the US of A.
> 
> Anyone in this thread put their money where their mouth is and moved out of the states considered South in this thread?
> 
> Will you refuse to do business with anyone who still lives in the South and has a Rebel flag unless they shit on and post it on the big three internet social sites?
> 
> Will you call all relatives that have a rebel flag a traitor at the next Christmas gathering?
> 
> I believe this thread is so full of bull shit & is stuffed full of what is so wrong with people in general and … Aw hell, you all make me want to spit.
> 
> Yeah, you all have the ‘high road’… ( can’t even come close with all this hot air as there will never be enough of it to even get you out of the low road bar ditch. )

Well, since you ask…

As I said I lived in Oxford MS for several years and saw a lot of that flag. My fondest memory, however, was when I and some others took down one of said flags and had an ass whiping party. In addition to our natural bodily functions we wrote on it with a sharpie to impart a few choice pieces of wisdom. We returned the owner s flag via the mailbox and in the two further years that I lived there it never flew on in front of the house again. Of course, that meant little compared to its prevalence elsewhere on football weekends, but it was satisfying nonetheless.

edit:oh by the way my family got out of that shithole and we are much happier for it.

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2015, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-confederate-flaggers-parading-in-your-streets/725553/88 "2015-07-21T05:15:17Z")

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I haven’t seen any parades but Confederate flags, stickers, “Keep It Flying” bumper stickers etc. are pretty common. I know of at least 3 houses within a couple of miles of mine that have Confederate flags flying on poles in the yard. A group called League of the South has recently been putting up billboards around the state that say “SECEDE”, including one probably 1 1/2 miles from my house. (Tuscaloosa, AL)

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2015, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-confederate-flaggers-parading-in-your-streets/725553/89 "2015-07-21T05:19:32Z")

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> [@Vaevictis](#):
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> Well, since you ask…
> 
> As I said I lived in Oxford MS for several years and saw a lot of that flag. My fondest memory, however, was when I and some others took down one of said flags and had an ass whiping party. In addition to our natural bodily functions we wrote on it with a sharpie to impart a few choice pieces of wisdom. We returned the owner s flag via the mailbox and in the two further years that I lived there it never flew on in front of the house again. Of course, that meant little compared to its prevalence elsewhere on football weekends, but it was satisfying nonetheless.
> 
> edit:oh by the way my family got out of that shithole and we are much happier for it.

You said you had a ass whiping party when you meant you dropped your pants and wiped your ass, which was apparently dirty or else you did not do much to the flag. IMO ( ass whipping means you beat him up ) (( ‘whiping’ means you can’t proof read any better than I can. )) Now that is an inslut… Bawahahahaha ( see what I did there? ) 😛

Was the person at home? Did you tell him it was you? Hummmmm Were you under 18 when you did this? Hummm

How high do you wear your pants? :eek:

General question: Why did it take until 2015 for all this flag hate to become the latest mob mentality thing? Digging up graves? Defacing statues, after 150 years this is now a thing? 😕

Anyone who has a flag like that is a traitor? Really. If so , I guess you are 100% behind what that much revered soldier General Sherman did on his march to the sea. Must be nice to be able to point out what a great man he was for doing that. The women & children in his way probably saw it a bit different. :smack:

1864 from 2015 = 151 years and just now you are so incensed about that flag? Bawahahahaha

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> [@GusNSpot](#):
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> Will you refuse to do business with anyone who still lives in the South and has a Rebel flag unless they shit on and post it on the big three internet social sites?

I used to vacation in the south, mostly Hilton Head, SC. Then, around 1995 there was some talk about removing the confederate flag from the Capitol. A counter protest involved mostly pickup trucks with giant flags parading up and down the main drag, with the occupants shouting racial epithets. It was probably the first time my five year old daughter heard the n word.

I was disgusted and decided to take my vacation dollars elsewhere, and haven’t been back.

On the bright side, I found out the Caribbean Sea outdoes the Atlantic Ocean any day.

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**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2015, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-confederate-flaggers-parading-in-your-streets/725553/91 "2015-07-21T10:40:07Z")

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> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> I’m about half way between Lowell and Boston, and unfortunately our town has two geniuses with pickups flying full sized USA and Confederate flags. Or maybe just one genius with two trucks.

Probably the same dude with the “Protected by Smith & Wesson” sticker on his ginormous pickup truck who tried to run me off the road a few years back. It was near Burlington/Bedford, but I’m sure he gets around. \<.\<

> [@Frank](#):
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> There is a car here at my apartment building that since (of all days) the 4th of July, has had a flagpole with a Confederate battle flag on it sticking out of the passenger side.

I saw a pickup truck driving down route 17 in Jacksonville on July 4th blaring “Sweet Home Alabama” with two drunk people in the bed of the truck waving gigantic Confederate battle flags.

> [@Dung\_Beetle](#):
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> I’m in Gainesville, **GrumpyBunny**. I forgot to mention that most of the hubbub around here is centered on the statue of a Confederate soldier that is on the grounds of the county administration building. So if you go downtown you’re going to see a lot of flags in that area, but I imagine that’ll settle down once the issue of that memorial is dealt with.

An oasis of learning in north Florida…

But yeah, I know the statue. Also that the locals who aren’t uni professors are still often very…well, Confederate-y.

> [@Accidental\_Martyr](#):
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> A group called League of the South has recently been putting up billboards around the state that say “SECEDE”, including one probably 1 1/2 miles from my house. (Tuscaloosa, AL)

We should let them go this time. It would save the federal government millions of dollars.

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> [@Brynda](#):
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> I saw three today in Middle Tennessee. Two were large ones (maybe 2 ft by 3 ft) flying from pickups, and the third was a very large one on a flagpole outside a private residence. Idiots.

Yep. I’ve lived here for 2 years so far, and hadn’t seen one. Then I saw two pickups drive past me in one week waving big-ass Rebel flags from the rear.

We pointed and laughed.

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2015, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-confederate-flaggers-parading-in-your-streets/725553/93 "2015-07-21T12:34:00Z")

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_Now who can argue with that? I think we’re all indebted to Gabby Johnson for clearly stating what needed to be said. I’m particularly glad that these lovely children were here today to hear that speech. Not only was it authentic frontier gibberish, it expressed a courage little seen in this day and age._

Come on. You were all thinking it.

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2015, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-confederate-flaggers-parading-in-your-streets/725553/94 "2015-07-21T16:37:41Z")

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> [@Stuffy](#):
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> I’ve always assumed these were a warning to black folks to keep out. **I can’t be the only black person who thinks so.**

Nope.

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> [@GrumpyBunny](#):
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> We should let them go this time. It would save the federal government millions of dollars.

But I don’t want to have to move. 🙂

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> [@Jelly\_Roll](#):
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> Middle Tennessee:
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> My 7 year old daughter and I were stopped at a light to make a left-hand turn and saw a line of 6 or 7 pick-up trucks flying Confederate flags from their truck beds. My daughter suggested we boo them, so as I made the left-hand turn, we rolled our windows down, gave them the thumbs down sign and booed. I told a couple of other people about it and they had seen these same trucks in different parts of town, so I assume they were parading around town all day Saturday.

I have only seen one confederate flag flying around my Atlanta suburb. It was an interesting sight and a cautionary tale. The flag (and 3-4 pro-flag bumper stickers) was flying atop an old, lifted Chevy Blazer. I was 2 cars behind it at a red light when the driver, a mountain of a boy with a shaved head and long red goatee, got out of the Blazer and began to walk pointedly toward the car directly in front of me. The target vehicle began backing up, causing me to lay on my horn to avoid getting hit. It then did a U-turn through 2 lanes of traffic, went up a curb onto the grass in front of a gas station and floored down the wrong side of the road. It was nothing short of a miracle that the driver did not cause a major accident in his rush to flee.

I can only imagine that the car driver/passenger offered a hand gesture to the good 'ol boy and he decided to “uphold his honor”. I firmly believe that not everyone who flies the CFB is a violence prone racist, but be aware that anyone who would publicly display one on their vehicle at this particular time has a high likelyhood to check both boxes. Don’t do anything silly and get yourself (and others around you) into a dangerous situation.

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2015, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-confederate-flaggers-parading-in-your-streets/725553/97 "2015-07-21T20:16:43Z")

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I’ve lived in Texas for nearly 30 years now. I have never seen anyone flying the Stars and Bars, but I have seen many T-shirts, baseball caps, bumper stickers and the like with the Stars and Bars on them.

I’ve also seen numerous high schools named after Confederate heroes, and more than a few of them have nicknames like “The Rebels.” Sometimes, fans of such schools will wave the Stars and Bars after a touchdown. In general, these teams’ best players are black, naturally

But even the few people who DO wave that flag will swear on a stack of Bibles that they don’t mean any offense by it, and most of them seem sincere.

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Raise my count to 8 confirmed with one likely but unconfirmed (long distance and limited observation time.) The confirmed addition fits the stereotype of a pickup truck. The possible was a stereotype busting mid sized sedan. The confirmed sighting also sported the American colors and a POW/MIA flag for an interesting mix.

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Yep, a local guy has tried to file a human rights complaint, apparently against a TV station for biased coverage on the flag debate, and against a flag shop for not selling the flag anymore.

Yes, it’s silly. :rolleyes:

No, the complaint won’t go anywhere. 😃

[Confederate flag supporter in Saskatchewan files human rights complaint](http://www.thestarphoenix.com/life/Sask+Confederate+flag+supporter+files+human+rights+complaint/11230042/story.html)

> [@](#):
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> A Saskatchewan man says he filed a human rights complaint because negative media coverage of the Confederate flag debate is discriminatory and promotes hatred.
> 
> Dale Pippin’s family is originally from North Carolina, but settled in Canada 110 years ago. He takes great pride in his Southern U.S. heritage and sometimes displays the Confederate flag on his vehicle, although he’s more reluctant to do so given the intense debate about the controversial symbol, he said.  
> …  
> He cited television and radio broadcasts in his human rights complaint, which he said was filed July 1. The Saskatchewan Human Rights Commission declined to confirm if it received the complaint, but Pippin has published what he says is the complaint on his personal website.
> 
> “Both episodes of negative and misleading news ‘stories’ were an unneeded insult and needless trashing of the Confederate flag. Why is this type of publicly broadcast discrimination being allowed in Canada? Are news agencies not held accountable to slander?” Pippen wrote in his complaint.
> 
> It also recounts his attempt to buy a Confederate flag from a store in Saskatoon that earlier had publicly declared it would stop selling the item.
> 
> “While business owners certainly have the right to decide what to sell, does a business owner have the right to stop selling something due to bias from the media and personal preference?” Pippin wrote in his complaint.

[Saskatchewan man says treatment of confederate flag unfair, files complaint](http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/saskatchewan-man-says-treatment-of-confederate-flag-unfair-files-complaint-1.3161967)

> [@](#):
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> CBC News spoke with several legal experts and asked them to assess the validity of Pippin’s formal SHRC complaint. All agreed his case, as presented, is weak.
> 
> Beth Bilson, Interim Dean of the College of Law at the University of Saskatchewan, said she would be surprised if the SHRC considered Pippin’s complaint for mediation.
> 
> “The debate is really about what the flag represents,” Bilson said.
> 
> “What the media has done, in Canada, is to try and engage people in that discussion,” she said. “That seems to be what he is objecting to.”
> 
> Bilson noted Pippin’s complaint letter failed to clearly identify any one person or organization responsible for the offence he claims to have endured.

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No organized events in Little Rock. (that I’ve heard about)

its been many years since I saw the South’s battle flag on any vehicles. Certainly not flying in any yards. We have a significant black population and that would be very ill–advised.

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