# Are there food items that you automatically say you do not like...

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 24, 2018, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-food-items-that-you-automatically-say-you-do-not-like/825025 "2018-11-24T20:29:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-food-items-that-you-automatically-say-you-do-not-like/825025/101 "2018-11-28T21:12:01Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Aren’t butter beans and lima beans the same thing?
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> Anyhow, my dad makes them all the time, stewed with smoked sausage, ham, Canadian bacon, etc. Just had some two days ago. Delicious!

Botanically, they probably are!

In the food store, though, you always see butter beans packaged by some company with a name like “Southern Pride” or “Dixie Queen,” and they’re brown. Limas come in ordinary Damyankee packages and are green.

Butter beans have some vague connection with Down South, where I think they can grow and eat them fresh. The former Attorney General was commonly referred to as “Jeffery Butterbeans Sessions” by one of the lefty political news sites I favor.

(Your ol’ dad has the right idea. Toss a bounty of smoked pork into the saucepan with water, beans, onion, and pepper, and you can skip the chicken broth.)

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**Author:** ![jnglmassiv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f07891/32.png) [@jnglmassiv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jnglmassiv)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-food-items-that-you-automatically-say-you-do-not-like/825025/102 "2018-11-28T21:38:47Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> The only insect I’ve ever eaten was a cicada on a dare. And it actually tasted pretty okay.

I couldn’t taste the cicada I ate over the gagging and dry heaves. All mental, for sure.

I’ve had toasted crickets. It was while back and I think most of the legs had been removed. They’re totally unobjectionable, bland even. Maybe a little nutty. After frying, the texture is crispy.

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**Author:** ![edspellman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/58956e/32.png) [@edspellman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edspellman)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-food-items-that-you-automatically-say-you-do-not-like/825025/103 "2018-11-28T21:41:12Z")

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Ukelele Ike, I only referred to plain boiled Lima beans. You can cook almost anything with onions and red pepper and it’ll be delicious. Plus I said I’d eat them mixed with other veggies.

Pulykamell, insects as food may be a thing, but none for me thanks.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-food-items-that-you-automatically-say-you-do-not-like/825025/104 "2018-11-28T23:47:56Z")

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Asparagus. Can’t stand the texture.

Okra. Same as above.

Apple juice. Maybe I was given way too much of the stuff when I was little.

Bologna, unless it’s been nuked. Same as directly above.

Raw onions, especially in soft foods like tuna salad. Too strong and I don’t like unexpected crunchy things in my soft food.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-food-items-that-you-automatically-say-you-do-not-like/825025/105 "2018-11-28T23:52:39Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Aren’t butter beans and lima beans the same thing?

> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Botanically, they probably are!

Same genus (_Phaseolus_), slightly different species.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2018, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-food-items-that-you-automatically-say-you-do-not-like/825025/106 "2018-11-29T00:22:39Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Same genus (_Phaseolus_), slightly different species.

I see conflicting accounts of this. Most sources I see say they are exactly the same thing, both being _Phaseolus lunatus_. (Perhaps you mean slightly different cultivars, as even with the same genus and species, you can get quite a lot of variety: see _brassica oleracea_.) Do you have a source listing a different species? In my experience, they are exactly the same, with “butter bean” being a better name for marketing purposes, since almost everybody loves butter, and “lima” has endured decades of negative publicity.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2018, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-food-items-that-you-automatically-say-you-do-not-like/825025/107 "2018-11-29T00:24:04Z")

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> [@jnglmassiv](#):
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> I couldn’t taste the cicada I ate over the gagging and dry heaves. All mental, for sure.
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> I’ve had toasted crickets. It was while back and I think most of the legs had been removed. They’re totally unobjectionable, bland even. Maybe a little nutty. After frying, the texture is crispy.

Yeah, the way I would describe cicada is similar: nutty, along with a canned asparagus and grassy flavor to it, as well.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2018, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-food-items-that-you-automatically-say-you-do-not-like/825025/108 "2018-11-29T14:29:27Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> I’ve never tried it, but my wife who claims not to be adventurous food-wise has had cricket tacos in Mexico and didn’t seem to find them objectionable.

I’m confused here. Were they tacos made with cricket flour tortillas or were they made with regular tortillas and had cricket filling?

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2018, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-food-items-that-you-automatically-say-you-do-not-like/825025/109 "2018-11-29T15:15:05Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> I’m confused here. Were they tacos made with cricket flour tortillas or were they made with regular tortillas and had cricket filling?

The latter. Look up “chapulines.” [Here’s a picture of a cricket taco](https://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g150800-d6594510-i106516110-Yuban-Mexico_City_Central_Mexico_and_Gulf_Coast.html). They can also be eaten on their own. I admit, it does look a bit unappetizing, but I think I could get used to it. Like I said, shrimp ain’t pretty either.

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2018, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-food-items-that-you-automatically-say-you-do-not-like/825025/110 "2018-11-29T17:28:43Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> I see conflicting accounts of this. Most sources I see say they are exactly the same thing, both being _Phaseolus lunatus_. (Perhaps you mean slightly different cultivars, as even with the same genus and species, you can get quite a lot of variety: see _brassica oleracea_.) Do you have a source listing a different species? In my experience, they are exactly the same, with “butter bean” being a better name for marketing purposes, since almost everybody loves butter, and “lima” has endured decades of negative publicity.

Butter beans are also called that due to the pale color, which is reminiscent of butter. Culinarily speaking, lima beans are small and green whereas butter beans are large and tan. I’ve seen butter beans listed as both _P. luantus_ and _P. limensis_ but it’s unclear which is which.

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2018, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-food-items-that-you-automatically-say-you-do-not-like/825025/111 "2018-11-29T17:36:56Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Butter beans are also called that due to the pale color, which is reminiscent of butter. Culinarily speaking, lima beans are small and green whereas butter beans are large and tan. I’ve seen butter beans listed as both _P. luantus_ and _P. limensis_ but it’s unclear which is which.

I’m used to limas being large and yellowish, but baby limas being smaller (like half the size, maybe a little bigger than kidney beans) and greenish. Limas to me are always the biggest of the common dried beans.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2018, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-food-items-that-you-automatically-say-you-do-not-like/825025/112 "2018-11-29T17:44:59Z")

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[These are the type of dried limas I grew up with.](https://www.google.com/shopping/product/2592645294785889677/image?q=goya+lima+beans&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari&prds=cid:2592645294785889677,sgro:iv,cs:1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiArIGOk_reAhVP2qwKHZHqBisQ-K4BegQICxBN) (Though not always that brand.) It looks like there is a good deal of variation as to what a lima bean is. Maybe butter bean is a subset of Lima? I do know the ones that come in the frozen veggies tend to be the green ones, but I assumed that’s because they were baby limas or something.

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2018, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-food-items-that-you-automatically-say-you-do-not-like/825025/113 "2018-11-29T17:53:01Z")

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Like **Ike** says, it’s basically a regional thing. [Some packages even use both terms!](https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/714I4D3TgSL._SY550_.jpg)

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-food-items-that-you-automatically-say-you-do-not-like/825025/114 "2018-11-29T18:03:05Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Like **Ike** says, it’s basically a regional thing. [Some packages even use both terms!](https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/714I4D3TgSL._SY550_.jpg)

And then there’s Eric Esch.

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**Post date:** [December 4, 2018, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-food-items-that-you-automatically-say-you-do-not-like/825025/115 "2018-12-04T23:10:12Z")

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