# are there going to be a STAR WARS VII  ?

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**Created:** [April 24, 2002, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-going-to-be-a-star-wars-vii/105249 "2002-04-24T00:14:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![POWER\_station](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@POWER\_station](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/POWER_station)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-going-to-be-a-star-wars-vii/105249/1 "2002-04-24T00:14:52Z")

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- I’ve heard that ther is only 6 books about the SW saga ?

Any there a chance for a movie no. 7-8-9 etc. ?

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-going-to-be-a-star-wars-vii/105249/2 "2002-04-24T00:16:30Z")

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Not according to Lucas. He claims he’ll be too old to do the next trilogy. We can only wait and see.

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**Author:** ![POWER\_station](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@POWER\_station](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/POWER_station)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-going-to-be-a-star-wars-vii/105249/3 "2002-04-24T00:27:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Mr. Blue Sky \*  
> \*\*Not according to Lucas. He claims he’ll be too old to do the next trilogy. We can only wait and see. \*\*

the next trilogy ?

Do you mean that there are more than 6 books ?

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**Author:** ![SpaceGhostofArrakis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@SpaceGhostofArrakis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpaceGhostofArrakis)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-going-to-be-a-star-wars-vii/105249/4 "2002-04-24T00:30:25Z")

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Good Lord no.  
And they aren’t “books”, they are movies.

However over, the “official” unofficial 7-8-9 is the _Thrawn Trilogy_ by Timothy Zahn. First book is _Heir to the Empire_. Pick it up!

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-going-to-be-a-star-wars-vii/105249/5 "2002-04-24T00:39:53Z")

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There already was, Ewok Adventure and Battle for Endor. The Holiday special rounds out that Trilogy.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-going-to-be-a-star-wars-vii/105249/6 "2002-04-24T00:41:23Z")

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When Lucas said there’d be sequels to the first trilogy, it was very early on in the piece, and it was more ambitious than he realised. He gave the idea up after writing Return of the Jedi, he decided that was where the story ends.

If you read the novels that continue the story, as SpaceGhost suggests, you can live the continuing adventures of your favourite characters, but they clearly aren’t the same story that Lucas is telling, they are just additional tales.

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**Author:** ![Zap\_Rowsdower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/3da27b/32.png) [@Zap\_Rowsdower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zap_Rowsdower)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-going-to-be-a-star-wars-vii/105249/7 "2002-04-24T01:59:34Z")

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I thought I heard somewhere that Disney was planning on taking over the series after the current one is finished. Unfortunatley I do not remember where I heard that, but I hope it is not true.

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**Author:** ![SpaceGhostofArrakis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@SpaceGhostofArrakis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpaceGhostofArrakis)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-going-to-be-a-star-wars-vii/105249/8 "2002-04-24T02:17:01Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tars Tarkas \*  
> \*\*There already was, Ewok Adventure and Battle for Endor. The Holiday special rounds out that Trilogy. \*\*

That ain’t funny **Tars**

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**Author:** ![Silentgoldfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Silentgoldfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silentgoldfish)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-going-to-be-a-star-wars-vii/105249/9 "2002-04-24T03:01:37Z")

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The Thrawn trilogy is actually pretty good. Tis also where they idea of Coruscant originated. Interestingly enough.

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-going-to-be-a-star-wars-vii/105249/10 "2002-04-24T06:25:29Z")

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I wager that Lucas will film episodes VII through IX once he needs another bazillion dollars for something or other. Like, say, a new wing for Skywalker Sound…

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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-going-to-be-a-star-wars-vii/105249/11 "2002-04-24T07:16:26Z")

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> If you read the novels that continue the story, as SpaceGhost suggests, you can live the continuing adventures of your favourite characters, but they clearly aren’t the same story that Lucas is telling, they are just additional tales.

Not according to Lucas. They’re a-a-a-a-a-a-a-all canon.

😃

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-going-to-be-a-star-wars-vii/105249/12 "2002-04-24T08:13:39Z")

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No they aren’t. He’s never said that. The novelisations of the movies are the closest you’ll get to canon (and even that is questionable), not the further adventures (they contradict each other too much to be canon).

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**Author:** ![HubZilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ccd318/32.png) [@HubZilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HubZilla)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-going-to-be-a-star-wars-vii/105249/13 "2002-04-24T09:19:43Z")

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According to [this guy](http://www.supershadow.com/), there will be. He even has the Episode 7 summary!

After all, he should know, since according to his site he’s good buddies with Lucas and even forwards fans ideas to him!

I guess this discussion is closed.

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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-going-to-be-a-star-wars-vii/105249/14 "2002-04-24T09:54:22Z")

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> No they aren’t. He’s never said that.

Sure did. According to Lucasfilm’s order of canonity… EVERYTHING is canon (with the caveat that the movies are “most canon”).

Did I hear that directly from Lucas? Nope. But… well… Lucasfilms is kinda… y’know… his company.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-going-to-be-a-star-wars-vii/105249/15 "2002-04-24T10:45:58Z")

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Well, the order of canonity is the important part, and Lucas himself only counts the movies, and disregards the novels completely. He has stated that numerous times.

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**Author:** ![Legomancer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/779978/32.png) [@Legomancer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Legomancer)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-going-to-be-a-star-wars-vii/105249/16 "2002-04-24T12:42:18Z")

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Back in the day, Lucas claimed the entire story was (a) the story of Luke Skywalker and (b) a trilogy of trilogies.

He has since retconned this, saying that it was ALWAYS about Darth Vader, and it was ALWAYS only six episodes. Perhaps that’s true from a certain point of view.

Lucas seems to have given people carte blanche with post-Jedi stuff, and all sorts of crappy writers have sought to fill this void with acres of goofy books. Ask someone how Chewbacca died (yes, some lucky second-rate writer was allowed to kill Chewbacca - and chose a stirringly noble death for him, second only to perhaps Chewbacca slipping on a bar of soap in the shower and hitting his head.)

The standard answer seems to be that Timothy Zahn’s Thrawn Trilogy is the best of a sorry bunch, but your mileage may vary. I read the first one and was appalled at how awful it was. I later read that when Zahn was hand-picked to write these books, he had to go back and watch the movies again because he didn’t really remember much about them. Sigh. The George Lucas Quality Control Machine at its finest.

As for canonicity, who knows or cares? I am a huge Star Wars fan but I wouldn’t read most of the novels on a salary. The tremendously pathetic book ‘Shadows of the Empire’ is certainly canon, and it’s painfully awful to read, and a silly story to boot. It brings hope to aspiring writers because if this Steve Perry (not of Journey) guy can make a living writing books, then who can’t?

On the other hand, considering the sorts of things Phantom Menace made canon, can the books really do any more harm?

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**Author:** ![Sofa\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58956e/32.png) [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-going-to-be-a-star-wars-vii/105249/17 "2002-04-24T15:33:06Z")

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In just a few short years, ILM will be able to create a computer-animated [Harvey Korman](http://www.timewarptv.com/site/programs/Star_Wars_Holiday_Special/images/111778ab.jpg). Once that is possible, Lucas plans to go back and divide the Holiday Special into its own trilogy, focusing on Korman’s character.

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**Author:** ![slortar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@slortar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slortar)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-going-to-be-a-star-wars-vii/105249/18 "2002-04-24T17:36:45Z")

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God, I hope there isn’t going to be another trilogy. I shudder to think what Lucas would do with the children of Han and Leia.

“Jedi Twin Powers Activate!”  
“Form of a Banta!”

_twitch twitch twitch_

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-going-to-be-a-star-wars-vii/105249/19 "2002-04-24T21:06:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SpaceGhostofArrakis \*  
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> That ain’t funny **Tars** \*\*

Hey, just like all my other posts!!! 😃

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**Author:** ![Big\_Kahuna\_Burger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Big\_Kahuna\_Burger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Big_Kahuna_Burger)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-going-to-be-a-star-wars-vii/105249/20 "2002-04-24T22:39:15Z")

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Here are the working titles for the trilogy  
“Dude, where’s my lightsaber?”  
“Tatooinian Pie”  
“Luke’s Angels”

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