# Are there, in fact, suspicious deaths of people associated with the Clintons?

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**Created:** [August 13, 2019, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-in-fact-suspicious-deaths-of-people-associated-with-the-clintons/838619 "2019-08-13T17:58:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-in-fact-suspicious-deaths-of-people-associated-with-the-clintons/838619/1 "2019-08-13T17:58:32Z")

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It has long been a conservative meme/joke that if you have dirt on the Clintons, you’ll die an untimely death (i.e., the joke sign above deer roadkill reading “Snitched on Hillary,” the Babylon Bee satire article "[CDC: Those with Dirt on Clintons have 843% Higher Risk of Suicide"](https://babylonbee.com/news/cdc-people-dirt-clintons-843-greater-risk-suicide), etc.) - but how statistically true is this? Is it just bitter right-wing fearmongering or is there actually truth to it?  
Edit: Forgot to add, of course, the ongoing theories about Jeff Epstein being murdered because he knew a lot of things about the Clintons - theories which are almost certainly nonsense, but have been fueled by these longstanding rumors about deaths involving Clinton associates or acquaintances.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-in-fact-suspicious-deaths-of-people-associated-with-the-clintons/838619/2 "2019-08-13T18:11:36Z")

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Well, I did a linear regression of longevity and social proximity to the Clinton family using LinkedIn profiles, and hereis what I found.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-in-fact-suspicious-deaths-of-people-associated-with-the-clintons/838619/3 "2019-08-13T18:33:09Z")

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Answered in 1! Well done, **RP**.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-in-fact-suspicious-deaths-of-people-associated-with-the-clintons/838619/4 "2019-08-13T18:45:34Z")

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Damn. I clicked it, and I’m at work.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-in-fact-suspicious-deaths-of-people-associated-with-the-clintons/838619/5 "2019-08-13T18:50:05Z")

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Off the top of my head:

Vince Foster killed himself after following the Clintons to DC.  
Seth Rich was shot in the back, perhaps in an attempted robbery.  
People have also tried to tie the Clintons to the plane crash that killed Ron Brown.

Are all of these a stretch? I guess. But there are actual deaths of actual Clinton or DNC associates that could be incorporated into a conspiracy theory.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-in-fact-suspicious-deaths-of-people-associated-with-the-clintons/838619/6 "2019-08-13T18:58:21Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> But there are actual deaths of actual Clinton or DNC associates that could be incorporated into a conspiracy theory.

They were President of the US and a Senator/Sec of State. The number of associates you could tie to them is going to be ginormous. If you couldn’t find some deaths with unanswered questions connected to the Clintons it would be a much more interesting conspiracy theory.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-in-fact-suspicious-deaths-of-people-associated-with-the-clintons/838619/7 "2019-08-13T18:59:18Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> …the plane crash that killed Ron Brown.  
> …

I thought that one was O.J.

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**Author:** ![Drum\_God](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drum_god/32/44_2.png) [@Drum\_God](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drum_God)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-in-fact-suspicious-deaths-of-people-associated-with-the-clintons/838619/8 "2019-08-13T19:03:35Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> Off the top of my head:
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> Vince Foster killed himself after following the Clintons to DC.  
> Seth Rich was shot in the back, perhaps in an attempted robbery.  
> People have also tried to tie the Clintons to the plane crash that killed Ron Brown.
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> Are all of these a stretch? I guess. But there are actual deaths of actual Clinton or DNC associates that could be incorporated into a conspiracy theory.

People die every day. The Clintons, being high-profile political heavyweights, interact with far more people than most ordinary folks. The fact that three people they have worked with in the last forty years have died is hardly unusual. In fact, I, a humble school teacher, can think of far more than three people to whom I can be associated, that have died in the last forty years. Students, teachers, administrators, student parents, student siblings, my own father, my own son, my own grandmothers. The list is staggering. I must be stopped!!

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-in-fact-suspicious-deaths-of-people-associated-with-the-clintons/838619/9 "2019-08-13T19:09:25Z")

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OK, found a list:

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-in-fact-suspicious-deaths-of-people-associated-with-the-clintons/838619/10 "2019-08-13T19:28:09Z")

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That’s not the suspicious part.

Did you know that way more than half of the people involved in government when JFK was shot are dead?

Wake up, sheeple!

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-in-fact-suspicious-deaths-of-people-associated-with-the-clintons/838619/11 "2019-08-13T19:30:50Z")

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Not to mention - more than 75% of people die within six months of their birthday!

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Mikemike2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikemike2/32/305_2.png) [@Mikemike2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mikemike2)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-in-fact-suspicious-deaths-of-people-associated-with-the-clintons/838619/12 "2019-08-13T19:31:00Z")

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Ha, Rick Rolled. 590,107,136 views so I can’t feel too bad. I hope someone is making money on that account.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
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Hell, there are suspicious deaths associated with me, and I expect every other person on the planet. If you look herd enough you’ll find a second cousin or an old classmate that died in a weird way or with odd circumstances.

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**Author:** ![Mikemike2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikemike2/32/305_2.png) [@Mikemike2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mikemike2)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-in-fact-suspicious-deaths-of-people-associated-with-the-clintons/838619/14 "2019-08-13T19:33:51Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Not to mention - more than 75% of people die within six months of their birthday!
> 
> Regards,  
> Shodan

100% of people die within 6 months of their birthday, don’t they?

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-in-fact-suspicious-deaths-of-people-associated-with-the-clintons/838619/15 "2019-08-13T19:43:08Z")

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> [@Mikemike2](#):
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> 100% of people die within 6 months of their birthday, don’t they?

Which is more than 75%.

It all adds up!

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-in-fact-suspicious-deaths-of-people-associated-with-the-clintons/838619/16 "2019-08-13T19:55:37Z")

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A list of people who didn’t die during Clinton’s presidency:

Rex Armistead  
David Brock  
William Clinger  
James Dale Davidson  
Joseph Farah  
Newt Gingrich  
Lucianne Goldberg  
David Hale  
Henry Hyde  
Cliff Jackson  
Paula Jones  
Monica Lewinsky  
L. Jean Lewis  
Rush Limbaugh  
William Safire  
Richard Mellon Scaife  
Ted Olson  
Robert Ray  
Christopher Ruddy  
Ken Starr  
Linda Tripp  
Emmett Tyrrell

In fact, most of these people are still alive today.

These are people the Clintons would have been killing if they were killing people.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-in-fact-suspicious-deaths-of-people-associated-with-the-clintons/838619/17 "2019-08-13T20:47:35Z")

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Well, I’m not seeing an Election angle here.

GD or Pit…GD or Pit…

Pit. Knock yourselves out.

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-in-fact-suspicious-deaths-of-people-associated-with-the-clintons/838619/18 "2019-08-13T21:02:04Z")

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Low effort troll here Velocity. You do better sticking to incel or race-baiting threads.

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-in-fact-suspicious-deaths-of-people-associated-with-the-clintons/838619/19 "2019-08-13T21:22:10Z")

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Conspiracy theories are taking over the world. I thought SDMB might be safe, but, nope. :smack:

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-in-fact-suspicious-deaths-of-people-associated-with-the-clintons/838619/20 "2019-08-13T21:24:05Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> They were President of the US and a Senator/Sec of State. The number of associates you could tie to them is going to be ginormous. If you couldn’t find some deaths with unanswered questions connected to the Clintons it would be a much more interesting conspiracy theory.

Ok, name three deaths linked to Poppy Bush, not counting in his foreign wars. I’ll wait.

Then find me one connected to Obama that wasn’t a drone strike nor the killing of Qaddafi.

Seriously, are you trying to make the conspiracy theory case through reverse psychology?

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