# Are there, in fact, suspicious deaths of people associated with the Clintons? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 13, 2019, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-in-fact-suspicious-deaths-of-people-associated-with-the-clintons/838619 "2019-08-13T17:58:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-in-fact-suspicious-deaths-of-people-associated-with-the-clintons/838619/81 "2019-08-20T11:51:34Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > Conspiracy theories are taking over the world. I thought SDMB might be safe, but, nope. :smack: Heck, GD has been the home of conspiracy theories as long as there has been a GD in SDMB. (Most of them were debunked, of course.) ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-in-fact-suspicious-deaths-of-people-associated-with-the-clintons/838619/82 "2019-08-20T13:04:44Z")
Does “point and laugh” equal “debunk”? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-in-fact-suspicious-deaths-of-people-associated-with-the-clintons/838619/83 "2019-08-20T17:32:00Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Is it just bitter right-wing fearmongering or is there actually truth to it? That first thing, there. ---
**Author:** ![LAZombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b38774/32.png) [@LAZombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LAZombie)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-in-fact-suspicious-deaths-of-people-associated-with-the-clintons/838619/84 "2019-08-22T12:59:49Z")
Vince Foster. It seems every time I look into a controversial subject there is more to the matter than what the main stream media serves up. The lazy people of SDMB never even bother to research the subject matter for themselves. Why bother? All you do is claim it’s racism or homophobia or misogyny or anti-semitism, and you can go back to being spoon fed what to think. "This is not the place to revisit the (Vince) Foster case, the electric third rail of US politics. But it is worth noting two points that touch on Mr Kavanaugh. Few people are aware that the US federal prosecutor handling the death investigation at the outset, Miquel Rodriguez, had resigned earlier from the Starr investigation after a bitter dispute. His resignation letter – later leaked – said he was prevented from pursuing investigative leads, that FBI witness statements did not reflect what witnesses had said, that the suicide verdict was premature, and that his grand jury probe was shut down just as he was beginning to uncover evidence. An informed source told me his work had been sabotaged by his own FBI agents. The nub of the dispute was over compelling evidence of a wound in Foster’s neck, which contradicted the official version that Foster shot himself in the mouth and had essentially been suppressed. The key crime scene photos had vanished and the FBI labs said others were over-exposed and useless. Mr Rodriguez, by then suspicious, slipped them to the Smithsonian Institution and had them enhanced. One showed a black stippled ring like a gunshot wound in the side of Foster’s neck. This remains secret but I have seen it. The photo was pivotal. It confirmed what several people who handled the body had originally stated. I interviewed the first rescue worker on the scene and when I asked him about the mouth wound, he grabbed me, and said with frightening intensity: “listen to me buddy, Foster was shot right here,” jabbing his finger into my neck. He said the FBI had pressured him too into changing his story and that official narrative was a pack of lies. Mr Kavanaugh’s reaction to the findings of his colleague can be found in the stash of released documents from the Starr inquiry. One says in his hand-written notes: “startling discovery”, “blew up portions of photo – trauma to the neck on rt side”, “appears to be bullet hole”. Mr Kavanaugh faced a choice. He chose to go with the establishment rather than stick up for his colleague. This proved good for his career. He took over the grand jury, by then a legacy showpiece. His treatment of my witness revealed his colors." > **[All things Kavanaugh - updates and background](https://talk.whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday.com/t/all-things-kavanaugh-updates-and-background/3936/21)** > > It gets worse…During the Ken Starr investigation into the Clintons, particularly the death of Vince Foster, who was closely aligned with the Clintons, Kavanaugh was part of the investigation team. Article from Ambrose Evans - Pritchard…which I... ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-in-fact-suspicious-deaths-of-people-associated-with-the-clintons/838619/85 "2019-08-22T13:12:08Z")
Make sure to come back and let us know what you and Scully find out. The Truth is out there. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-in-fact-suspicious-deaths-of-people-associated-with-the-clintons/838619/86 "2019-08-22T16:37:50Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > It has long been a conservative meme/joke that if you have dirt on the Clintons, you’ll die an untimely death (i.e., the joke sign above deer roadkill reading “Snitched on Hillary,” the Babylon Bee satire article "[CDC: Those with Dirt on Clintons have 843% Higher Risk of Suicide"](https://babylonbee.com/news/cdc-people-dirt-clintons-843-greater-risk-suicide), etc.) - but how statistically true is this? Is it just bitter right-wing fearmongering or is there actually truth to it? You know what I find odd. The fact that the “spokesperson” mentioned in the article isn’t even named! I mean, wouldn’t that make it easier to verify they said this, or is it just one of those “he said that his barber heard that a spokesperson from the CDC said that a co-worker remarked that…” ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-in-fact-suspicious-deaths-of-people-associated-with-the-clintons/838619/87 "2019-08-23T14:15:40Z")
AND come to think of it, how the hell did the “CDC” come up with the 843% figure anyways? What was the control group, and how did they determine how many people who had dirt on the Clintons who did not commit suicide??? Figures don’t lie, but liars can quote figures. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-in-fact-suspicious-deaths-of-people-associated-with-the-clintons/838619/88 "2019-08-23T15:05:12Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Make sure to come back and let us know what you and Scully find out. The Truth is out there. And the speculation is way, way, out there. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-in-fact-suspicious-deaths-of-people-associated-with-the-clintons/838619/89 "2019-08-23T17:22:17Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > And the speculation is way, way, out there. I WANT TO BELIEVE (But I cant because it’s far too ridiculous.) ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-in-fact-suspicious-deaths-of-people-associated-with-the-clintons/838619/90 "2019-08-23T17:23:13Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > And the speculation is way, way, out there. LAZombie will get to the bottom of the Derp State soon enough. He and his QAnon buddies are on the case! ---
**Author:** ![LAZombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b38774/32.png) [@LAZombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LAZombie)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-in-fact-suspicious-deaths-of-people-associated-with-the-clintons/838619/91 "2019-08-23T19:53:24Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > LAZombie will get to the bottom of the Derp State soon enough. He and his QAnon buddies are on the case! Were you aware that Ken Starr and Brett Kavanaugh were the lead investigators in the Vince Foster death? I wasn’t, and I’m certain many other people did not know this fact. So two people who would be considered Republications and conservatives worked diligently to clear the Clintons of any wrong doing. Say what you will at least I’m providing salient information. But then again fighting ignorance isn’t really the goal of this forum is it? If wit was wealth, you’d be dirt poor. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-in-fact-suspicious-deaths-of-people-associated-with-the-clintons/838619/92 "2019-08-23T21:00:47Z")
> [@LAZombie](#): > > Were you aware that Ken Starr and Brett Kavanaugh were the lead investigators in the Vince Foster death? I wasn’t, and I’m certain many other people did not know this fact. So two people who would be considered Republications and conservatives worked diligently to clear the Clintons of any wrong doing. > > Say what you will at least I’m providing salient information. But then again fighting ignorance isn’t really the goal of this forum is it? > > If wit was wealth, you’d be dirt poor. Yes, through my tinfoil hat investigations, I found that Kavanaugh and Starr investigated his suicide. They even talk about it on the tip-top secret Vince Foster wikipedia page (as well as Starr and Kavanaughs pages). Good job, Clouseau. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-in-fact-suspicious-deaths-of-people-associated-with-the-clintons/838619/93 "2019-08-23T21:37:09Z")
> [@LAZombie](#): > > Were you aware that Ken Starr and Brett Kavanaugh were the lead investigators in the Vince Foster death? I wasn’t, and I’m certain many other people did not know this fact. So two people who would be considered Republications and conservatives worked diligently to clear the Clintons of any wrong doing. So by ‘worked diligently to clear’ you are implying that Ken and Brett were in the bag for the Clintons? Given the work that Starr did as special prosecutor of Bill (and if Mueller was leading a witch hunt, what the hell do you call what Starr did), this seems at least unlikely, wouldn’t you agree? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-in-fact-suspicious-deaths-of-people-associated-with-the-clintons/838619/94 "2019-08-23T21:54:43Z")
That’s only what the lizard people would have you believe, if not for the diligence of the Rothschild/Illuminati/Stonemason Triumvirate. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-in-fact-suspicious-deaths-of-people-associated-with-the-clintons/838619.md?page=4)