# Are there other Hollywood bigwigs about to fall?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-other-hollywood-bigwigs-about-to-fall/798981>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [October 15, 2017, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-other-hollywood-bigwigs-about-to-fall/798981 "2017-10-15T19:56:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-other-hollywood-bigwigs-about-to-fall/798981/41 "2017-10-18T16:52:46Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Anecdotally; I went to two WWE shows this week. Before both shows, they showed a PSA for paralyzed veterans, with Ben Affleck as the talking head.
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> The promo got booed out of the house, both times.

Ah, the predictable “paralyzed veteran heel turn.”

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**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-other-hollywood-bigwigs-about-to-fall/798981/42 "2017-10-19T19:27:02Z")

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What gets me is how leading political figures like the Clintons and Obamas claim to know nothing about this.

And further, will it hurt the close relationship the democrats have with Hollywood which has been one of its leading fundraisers.

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**Author:** ![Lobot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@Lobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobot)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-other-hollywood-bigwigs-about-to-fall/798981/43 "2017-10-30T02:06:17Z")

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> [@Lobot](#):
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> Kevin Spacey is a good bet to be one of the next in line.

> **[Actor Anthony Rapp: Kevin Spacey Made A Sexual Advance Toward Me When I Was 14](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/adambvary/anthony-rapp-kevin-spacey-made-sexual-advance-when-i-was-14)**
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> The Star Trek: Discovery actor says women speaking out about sexual misconduct in the entertainment industry has compelled him to come forward about the Oscar winner.

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-other-hollywood-bigwigs-about-to-fall/798981/44 "2017-10-30T04:31:29Z")

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Spacey’s response, and he officially comes out as gay:

[https://www.instagram.com/p/Ba26hBGlZvX/](https://www.instagram.com/p/Ba26hBGlZvX/)

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**Author:** ![Lobot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@Lobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobot)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-other-hollywood-bigwigs-about-to-fall/798981/45 "2017-10-30T07:38:46Z")

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As you might expect, people didn’t really have much sympathy for Spacey after he came out in direct response to accusations of climbing on top of a 14 year old:

> **[Kevin Spacey’s Apology Slammed by Dan Savage, Rose McGowan, Billy Eichner](https://variety.com/2017/tv/news/kevin-spacey-apology-anthony-rapp-gay-celebrities-1202602129/)**
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> UPDATE: Kevin Spacey’s apology to actor Anthony Rapp has unleashed a flood of negative reactions on Twitter. Spacey’s decision to combine a coming-out statement with an apology to Rapp,…

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-other-hollywood-bigwigs-about-to-fall/798981/46 "2017-10-30T17:34:12Z")

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Man, this is really snowballing.

> [@Lobot](#):
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> Kevin Spacey is a good bet to be one of the next in line.
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Holy psychic powers, **Lobot**. Got any stock picks I should know about? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-other-hollywood-bigwigs-about-to-fall/798981/47 "2017-10-30T18:15:35Z")

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Perhaps if we comb through [Seth MacFarlane](http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/30/entertainment/seth-macfarlane-kevin-spacey/index.html)’s body of work over the past 20 years, we’ll get some clues as to who might be next.

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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-other-hollywood-bigwigs-about-to-fall/798981/48 "2017-10-30T18:24:22Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> It’s hard to imagine that there was just a few bad apples, given the situation in Hollywood: the confluence of many young, vulnerable women interacting with older, powerful men.

I suspect it’s mostly a couple of things.

[ul]  
[li]The entertainment business is much more hit-or-miss than most fields. If you want to become a lawyer or accountant or similar, then there are many opportunities open to you. None of them as glamorous as movie stardom, but that’s exactly the point - no one opportunity is as much of a big deal as in the entertainment industry, where successful opportunities can be big big make-or-break deals, either making you a huge star or leaving you waiting on tables. In this situation, those who can provide these opportunities hold much more leverage over the eager hopefuls than is the case in more mundane fields.[/li][li]The entertainment business is much more sexualized than overall society generally, in that’s much of what’s being “sold” there, to one extent or another, and this spills over to the lifestyles of those who work in it.[/li][/ul]

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**Author:** ![Warm\_blood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Warm\_blood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Warm_blood)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-other-hollywood-bigwigs-about-to-fall/798981/49 "2017-10-30T21:48:18Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Actually, I suspect that it _was_ just a few bad apples, based on the premise that most people are basically decent. But “just a few” could still be quite a lot. Suppose that only 1% of the prominent men in Hollywood are scumballs… but how many hundreds of prominent men are there?

Dude… come on now.

You can’t really believe that something so insidious is restricted to “just a few bad apples”. Sexually predatory behaviour in Hollywood is as old as Hollywood itself. It’s an institution at this point. It’s like thinking that corrupt cops are “just a few bad apples” that aren’t indicative of a broader problem within the police force.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-other-hollywood-bigwigs-about-to-fall/798981/50 "2017-11-09T21:08:33Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> Casey Affleck and Louis CK have both had multiple allegations.

A NYT story just came out about Louis CK. Several of his upcoming events are being cancelled.

[https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/09/arts/television/louis-ck-sexual-misconduct.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/09/arts/television/louis-ck-sexual-misconduct.html)

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-other-hollywood-bigwigs-about-to-fall/798981/51 "2018-01-11T18:08:00Z")

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James Franco:

**Five women accuse actor James Franco of inappropriate or sexually exploitative behavior**

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> “I feel there was an abuse of power, and there was a culture of exploiting non-celebrity women, and a culture of women being replaceable,” said Tither-Kaplan, who was one of many women who took to Twitter on Sunday night to vent anger over Franco’s win [at Golden Globe Awards].
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> She told The Times that in a nude orgy scene she filmed with Franco and several women three years ago, he removed protective plastic guards covering other actresses’ vaginas while simulating oral sex on them.

> **[Five women accuse actor James Franco of inappropriate or sexually...](https://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-james-franco-allegations-20180111-htmlstory.html)**
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> Five women have accused actor James Franco, 39, of behavior they found to be inappropriate or sexually exploitative. In some cases, the women told the Los Angeles Times they believed Franco could offer them career advancement, and acquiesced to his...

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-other-hollywood-bigwigs-about-to-fall/798981/52 "2018-01-11T18:24:07Z")

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I’m not pro or con on James Franco, but most of the accusations against him that I’ve heard so far seem— if not horseshit— pretty damned weak.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-other-hollywood-bigwigs-about-to-fall/798981/53 "2021-06-30T22:39:29Z")

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So how do you explain:

> **[James Franco agrees to $2.2m settlement for sexual misconduct suit](https://www.theguardian.com/film/2021/jun/30/james-franco-settlement-sexual-misconduct-suit)**
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> The Oscar-nominated actor has agreed to pay out to students at his film school, who alleged inappropriate and sexually exploitative behavior on set

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