# Are There Really Hidden Cameras In Japanese Women's Restrooms? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 17, 2023, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-really-hidden-cameras-in-japanese-womens-restrooms/981309 "2023-03-17T23:09:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2023, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-really-hidden-cameras-in-japanese-womens-restrooms/981309/1 "2023-03-17T23:09:19Z")
My favorite porn site often recommends “hidden camera” videos inside Japanese women’s restrooms, for those who get off on watching women piss/shit. Hey, I don’t judge. But my question is, are there really producers installing hidden cameras in women’s restrooms in Japan? Or are the models consenting and being paid, and the “hidden camera” aspect is just marketing? And if the answer to the first part of the question is “yes, it’s real,” is the Japanese government trying to put a stop to it? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2023, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-really-hidden-cameras-in-japanese-womens-restrooms/981309/2 "2023-03-17T23:13:00Z")
There are hidden cameras in _American_ bathrooms sometimes. If it was legal (here or elsewhere) they wouldn’t have to be hidden. ([Recent case Google turned up](https://www.deseret.com/2022/12/1/23488268/hidden-cameras-university-utah-bathrooms).) ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-really-hidden-cameras-in-japanese-womens-restrooms/981309/3 "2023-03-18T01:04:37Z")
Yes, they’d have to be hidden because, legal or not, women wouldn’t use the bathroom if they knew the camera was there. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-really-hidden-cameras-in-japanese-womens-restrooms/981309/4 "2023-03-18T02:48:21Z")
I’ve heard there’s a genuine problem with spy cameras in Korea. > **['I was humiliated': The continuing trauma of South Korea's spy cam victims](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-57493020)** > > Survivors have faced threats and bullying from police when seeking justice, says a new rights report. > **[Molka](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molka)** > > Molka (Korean: 몰카, \[moːɾkʰaː\]) is the Korean term for hidden cameras or miniature spy cameras secretly and illegally installed, often in order to capture voyeuristic images and videos. Molka is an abbreviation of molrae-kamera (Korean: 몰래카메라), which means a sneaky camera. The expression has been originated from the homonymous title of a Korean prank TV show, which existed from March 1991 to November 1992. This makes the term denote prank and spy camera at the same time. > In South Korea, spy came... ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-really-hidden-cameras-in-japanese-womens-restrooms/981309/5 "2023-03-19T12:46:01Z")
Why is this in CS? ---
**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-really-hidden-cameras-in-japanese-womens-restrooms/981309/6 "2023-03-19T14:09:29Z")
Wasn’t sure where else to put questions about porn. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-really-hidden-cameras-in-japanese-womens-restrooms/981309/7 "2023-03-19T15:19:33Z")
This is a question about criminal sexual behavior. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-really-hidden-cameras-in-japanese-womens-restrooms/981309/8 "2023-03-20T21:55:24Z")
Unless it’s not a thread about criminal sexual behavior. It’s possible that some fraction of these videos are staged, with women who know they are being filmed and consent, presumably in exchange for being paid. And it’s possible that that fraction is most or almost all such videos. Which is what the OP is asking about. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-really-hidden-cameras-in-japanese-womens-restrooms/981309/9 "2023-12-06T07:05:29Z")
Bump with relevant news story: > **[Judge: Amazon “cannot claim shock” that bathroom spycams were used as advertised](https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/12/amazon-faces-trial-after-selling-bathroom-spycam-used-to-abuse-minor/)** > > A West Virginia judge largely denied Amazon's motion to dismiss lawsuit. There may be legal grounds for Amazon to be held liable, knowing what the hidden cameras are likely to be used for. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2023, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-really-hidden-cameras-in-japanese-womens-restrooms/981309/10 "2023-12-12T15:11:34Z")
Those cameras are still for sale, despite the legal issues they’re facing. > **[Controversial clothes hook spy cameras for sale on Amazon](https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-67652317)** > > The hidden devices remain available despite being at the centre of a US case against the firm.