# Are there really homophobes that are repressed homosexuals? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [April 5, 2000, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-really-homophobes-that-are-repressed-homosexuals/17928 "2000-04-05T20:01:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2000, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-really-homophobes-that-are-repressed-homosexuals/17928/21 "2000-04-08T21:21:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by Satan: > \*\*That said, even a broke clock is right twice a day, and I really anjoy giving those people who say things like, “I don’t have a problem with gays, but…” with the retort that anyone who feels either intimidated or sickened by homosexual activity is either scared of them, or scared that they ARE them. It usually makes them quiet for a few moments… 🙂 > > \*\* That’s the kind of thing that I find really wrong. A friend at work emailed me a video of a woman blowing a horse. The horse ejaculated what looked like GALLONS of horse-spooge into her mouth and onto her face. I was grossed out. So, I guess either I’m afraid of horse-suckers, or deep down inside I have a desire to give Mr. Ed a hummer. Isn’t it at least POSSIBLE that some people are simple grossed out by homosexual sex without being cowards or closet cases? ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2000, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-really-homophobes-that-are-repressed-homosexuals/17928/22 "2000-04-08T23:46:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Isn’t it at least POSSIBLE that some people are simple grossed out by homosexual sex without being cowards or closet cases? Certainly. That’s not the question posited by the OP. The OP asks if there exist homophobes who are repressed homosexuals. The two concepts are not mutually exclusive. ---
**Author:** ![Satan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Satan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satan)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2000, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-really-homophobes-that-are-repressed-homosexuals/17928/23 "2000-04-09T00:36:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by Revtim: > > **Isn’t it at least POSSIBLE that some people are simple grossed out by homosexual sex without being cowards or closet cases?** You know what? I wouldn’t want to watch two guys having sex either. Does nothing for me. Not into it. Thanks but no thanks. That said, there are quite a few people I’d rather not think about having heterosexual sex either, let alone have to watch it. Last time I checked, nobody was making me… So please tell those homosexuals who are holding the gun to yoour head and making you watch them having sex against your wiill to knock it off. :rolleyes: * * * Yer pal, Satan ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2000, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-really-homophobes-that-are-repressed-homosexuals/17928/24 "2000-04-09T02:49:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by Otto: > \*\* Certainly. That’s not the question posited by the OP. The OP asks if there exist homophobes who are repressed homosexuals. The two concepts are not mutually exclusive.\*\* True Otto. I was replying to Satan’s comment, not the OP. Of course, why would I reply to the OP, since I’m the one who posted it? ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2000, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-really-homophobes-that-are-repressed-homosexuals/17928/25 "2000-04-10T05:08:00Z")
For the reference: > [@](#): > > The authors investigated the role of homosexual arousal in exclusively heterosexual men who admitted negative affect towards homosexual individuals. Participants consisted of a group of homophobic men (_n_ = 35) and a group of nonhomophobic men (_n_ = 29); they were assigned to groups on the basis of their scores on the Index of Homophobia (W.W. Hudson & W.A. Ricketts, 1980). The men were exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual, and lesbian videotapes, and changes in penile circumference were monitored. They also completed an Aggression Questionnaire (A.H. Buss & M. Perry, 1992). Both groups exhibited increases in penile circumference to the heterosexual and female homosexual videos. **Only the homosexual men showed an increase in penile erection to male homosexual stimuli.** The groups did not differ in aggression. Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies. (emphasis mine) Abstract of: Adams, H.E.; Wright, L.W.; Lohr, B.A. Is homophobia associated with homosexual arousal? _Journal of Abnormal Psychology_ 1996, Vol. 105, No. 3, 440-445. ---
**Author:** ![mrsphlem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b77776/32.png) [@mrsphlem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrsphlem)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2000, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-really-homophobes-that-are-repressed-homosexuals/17928/26 "2000-04-09T21:09:00Z")
Re:Falwell…He seems to have a track record of making grandiose promises and backing out of them… Randy Shilts reported that,in a televised debate, he once promised a young man named Gary Walsh that he would spend a day with him in San Francisco’s Castro district, touring various AIDS hostels and other hubs of the gay community. When Walsh sent him letters reminding him of his promise, they were unanswered. ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2000, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-really-homophobes-that-are-repressed-homosexuals/17928/27 "2000-04-09T22:10:00Z")
matt\_mcl, I can’t figure out the quote you give. Is one word in it wrong? In the bold-faced sentence, why is it talking about homosexual men? Should it have actually said that “[o]nly the homophobic men showed an increase in penile erection to male homosexual stimuli”? ---
**Author:** ![Torgo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@Torgo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Torgo)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2000, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-really-homophobes-that-are-repressed-homosexuals/17928/28 "2000-04-10T00:38:00Z")
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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2000, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-really-homophobes-that-are-repressed-homosexuals/17928/29 "2000-04-10T02:48:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Of course, why would I reply to the OP, since I’m the one who posted it? That’s between you and your analyst. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2000, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-really-homophobes-that-are-repressed-homosexuals/17928/30 "2000-04-10T07:00:00Z")
Wendell Wagner: you’re absolutely right. I made a transcribing error. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Ryan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7feea3/32.png) [@The\_Ryan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ryan)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-really-homophobes-that-are-repressed-homosexuals/17928/31 "2000-04-12T05:47:00Z")
There’s a program on PBS called POv that shows documentaries by independent film makers, and one of them was a bunch of interviews with people convicted of killing people because they (the victims) were homosexuals. One of them was homosexual, so at least one “homophobe” is homosexual. That doesn’t, of course, mean that it’s a common occurance. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2000, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-really-homophobes-that-are-repressed-homosexuals/17928/32 "2000-04-11T18:32:00Z")
I dunno, but for some reason the following quote came to me while reading this thread: “We mock what we do not understand.” - Dan Ackroyd, _Spies Like Us_ Esprix * * * [Ask the Gay Guy!](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html) (or, if you prefer the Jesusfied version, [Asketh the damn Priest Guy!](http://www.askjesus.org/ask.cgi?http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html)) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-really-homophobes-that-are-repressed-homosexuals/17928.md?page=1)