# Are there safe places in the usa to survive the end of the world? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [December 7, 2012, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-safe-places-in-the-usa-to-survive-the-end-of-the-world/643301 "2012-12-07T15:16:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-safe-places-in-the-usa-to-survive-the-end-of-the-world/643301/41 "2012-12-18T12:30:46Z")
I understand the Mayans got a new calendar in the mail from their fuel-oil company, so we can all relax now. ---
**Author:** ![Rama](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ccd318/32.png) [@Rama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rama)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-safe-places-in-the-usa-to-survive-the-end-of-the-world/643301/42 "2012-12-18T15:14:08Z")
Are there similar places to the one in the OP though? Where you’re protected by the location instead of the people or man-made structures that are on it. Doesn’t have to be a scientific answer. [Post nr. 16 is a good example.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15774012&postcount=16) ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-safe-places-in-the-usa-to-survive-the-end-of-the-world/643301/43 "2012-12-18T15:24:40Z")
I think I’ll try [here](http://www.sanfordlab.org/). ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-safe-places-in-the-usa-to-survive-the-end-of-the-world/643301/44 "2012-12-18T18:09:53Z")
> [@Musicat](#): > > I have a survival disaster-preparedness kit ready for the big event, too. It’s a pepperoni pizza. With extra cheese. You have confused preparing for a disaster with preparing to watch the Doctor Who Christmas special. Life is sweet. While it’s true my beard is greying, I don’t much care for my job, and I’ve long since given up dreams of winning the Hugo, I have a wife and baby I adore, not to mention the rest of my family & friends. I want to live as long as possible, and I’m not willing to meekly surrender to the Reaper even in a disaster. ---
**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-safe-places-in-the-usa-to-survive-the-end-of-the-world/643301/45 "2012-12-18T18:20:59Z")
> [@](#): > > I have a survival disaster-preparedness kit ready for the big event, too. It’s a pepperoni pizza. With extra cheese. > [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > I’m not willing to\*\* meekly\*\* surrender to the Reaper Hey, nobody’s suggesting that you go meekly! No–instead, be daring… Order the extra cheese. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-safe-places-in-the-usa-to-survive-the-end-of-the-world/643301/46 "2012-12-18T18:37:31Z")
> [@April\_R](#): > > Bugarach How can he protect people? He can’t even keep raindrops from falling on his head! What? ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-safe-places-in-the-usa-to-survive-the-end-of-the-world/643301/47 "2012-12-18T18:45:26Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > You have confused preparing for a disaster with preparing to watch the Doctor Who Christmas special. There’s a difference? Should I make it a sausage pizza instead? ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-safe-places-in-the-usa-to-survive-the-end-of-the-world/643301/48 "2012-12-18T18:50:30Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > That’s quite funny. I would also be toast in central Colorado. > > Though for other events, I don’t mind that we are pretty isolated, have a spring on our property and live in a solar home. Shelter and water we got. The top two. > I would, however, get very tired of eating chipmunk. Mrs Cad being an emergency manager has our route out of No. Colorado already planned out. Depending on the notice it is either Cheyenne (low traffic) then west on I80 or down to Denver and west on I-70 with everyone else. We end up in Portland or Seattle. Central Colorado you would probably going through Pueblo and US50 west but to be honest, I’d rather cut through the Yellowstone Caldera than Pueblo. ---
**Author:** ![EdwardLost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bbe5ce/32.png) [@EdwardLost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EdwardLost)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-safe-places-in-the-usa-to-survive-the-end-of-the-world/643301/49 "2012-12-18T19:57:35Z")
I’m sticking with John Cusack. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-safe-places-in-the-usa-to-survive-the-end-of-the-world/643301/50 "2012-12-18T20:13:33Z")
> [@pravnik](#): > > Maybe [Mount Weather](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Weather_Emergency_Operations_Center) or [Raven Rock Mountain Complex](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raven_Rock_Mountain_Complex), if you can convince them to let you in one of them. I’ve been inside of Site R! It was in connection with a renovation contract our company was doing there. It’s pretty claustrophobic, but impressive. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-safe-places-in-the-usa-to-survive-the-end-of-the-world/643301/51 "2012-12-18T21:31:39Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > I’ve been inside of Site R! It was in connection with a renovation contract our company was doing there. It’s pretty claustrophobic, but impressive. I did a couple of years inside there (enlisted active duty Air Force, working a computer programming job for one of the tenant organizations there). What I remember the most was how 100-pound chunks of tunnel ceiling were prone to drop off and fall with a rather scary crash onto the tunnel floor. Since the tunnel was something like 30’ tall, it was quite the fall, and since the chunks (and the entire mountain’s core) was made of some amazingly dense green granite, the impact was pretty impressive. One chunk dropped onto the interior roadway from the surface port to the facility while our bus\* was approaching. Good brakes saved the day. \*Yeah, they ran a shuttle bus from the surface to the facility. Otherwise, it was like a 3/4 mile walk. So, yeah. If the end of the world causes those chunks to fall out of the ceiling more than usual, I’ll take my chances on the surface. ---
**Author:** ![janeslogin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@janeslogin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/janeslogin)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-safe-places-in-the-usa-to-survive-the-end-of-the-world/643301/52 "2012-12-18T23:15:20Z")
Come to Vegas, we’ll set you up with all you need. If you need transportation to the Bunny Ranch we’ve got that too. ---
**Author:** ![waynemcdougall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b77776/32.png) [@waynemcdougall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waynemcdougall)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-safe-places-in-the-usa-to-survive-the-end-of-the-world/643301/53 "2012-12-19T00:35:29Z")
> [@Kimballkid](#): > > I think I’ll try [here](http://www.sanfordlab.org/). Ironic, since they caused the apocalypse. Going to. I meant going to. In fact, forget I said anything. ---
**Author:** ![waynemcdougall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b77776/32.png) [@waynemcdougall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waynemcdougall)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-safe-places-in-the-usa-to-survive-the-end-of-the-world/643301/54 "2012-12-19T00:39:51Z")
Which of you takes cheques? Or checks? [Quote=beowulff] Yes. PM me, and I will disclose my guaranteed end-of-the-world-safe location for a mere $10,000. [/quote] > [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#): > > BAH! > > Overpriced chiseler! > > Ignore him. > > Now, **me** , I’ll give you the _exact same quality information_, for a mere $5,000! > > _Think of it! 50% off!_ > And I’ll throw in a bagel! > > That bagel _sure does sound good_, doesn’t it? > > Then buy your end-of-the-World information from me: Bosda! ---
**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-safe-places-in-the-usa-to-survive-the-end-of-the-world/643301/55 "2012-12-19T00:51:03Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Earth being destroyed to make room for a hyperspace bypass? A handful of peanuts, a towel and a good thumb. And some beer to cushion your system. Somewhere like [Palm Valley](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Valley_(Northern_Territory)) in the Northern Territory of Australia would be my choice. ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-safe-places-in-the-usa-to-survive-the-end-of-the-world/643301/56 "2012-12-19T02:42:06Z")
Need answer fast? I can’t believe no one asked this yet. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-safe-places-in-the-usa-to-survive-the-end-of-the-world/643301/57 "2012-12-19T14:24:28Z")
Well, if the OP finds a place, he shouldn’t forget to make a trip to Costco for [this](http://www.costco.com/9687-Total-Servings-1-Person-1-Year-Food-Supply-By-Shelf-Reliance.product.100003177.html). ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-safe-places-in-the-usa-to-survive-the-end-of-the-world/643301/58 "2012-12-19T14:46:28Z")
Wait-a-minute If its the end of the “world”… And every point on Earth is within this “world”… ---
**Author:** ![VOW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vow/32/3043_2.png) [@VOW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VOW)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-safe-places-in-the-usa-to-survive-the-end-of-the-world/643301/59 "2012-12-19T20:18:31Z")
Seriously, if you have found your hideaway, you need to haul ass and get there YESTERDAY. Better take more than just a couple of SlimJims and a sport bottle of water, too! ~VOW ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2012, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-safe-places-in-the-usa-to-survive-the-end-of-the-world/643301/60 "2012-12-20T02:00:51Z")
> [@bleibtreu](#): > > If you can survive it anywhere on Earth, it is clearly **not** the end of the world. This. Seriously, there are dictionaries online that you can access for _free._ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-safe-places-in-the-usa-to-survive-the-end-of-the-world/643301.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-safe-places-in-the-usa-to-survive-the-end-of-the-world/643301.md?page=4)