# Are there still any $ online sites? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 9, 2011, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-still-any-online-sites/595753 "2011-09-09T21:03:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Alonzo\_John\_Blitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@Alonzo\_John\_Blitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alonzo_John_Blitz)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-still-any-online-sites/595753/1 "2011-09-09T21:03:31Z")
That about says it. Are there any sites where a U.S. citizen can play for money online? And, if so, are they safe? As an average player with brown eyes, size nine feet, and a feral cat, how many thousands of dollars can I expect to make each week? I don’t suppose the cat impacts the equation to a significant degree; but you never know, and she needs to eat, too. ---
**Author:** ![Alonzo\_John\_Blitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@Alonzo\_John\_Blitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alonzo_John_Blitz)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-still-any-online-sites/595753/2 "2011-09-09T21:05:38Z")
I meant poker sites; if that wasn’t clear. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-still-any-online-sites/595753/3 "2011-09-09T23:29:51Z")
Moved from General Questions to the Game Room. **samclem** , Moderator ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2011, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-still-any-online-sites/595753/4 "2011-09-10T04:30:43Z")
Not that I am aware of. And I’m not so sure I’d want to know if there are. DOJ has been pretty aggressive toward poker and financial sites - I figure it’s only a matter of time until they go after individual players, if there are any left able to play. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-still-any-online-sites/595753/5 "2011-09-20T22:00:36Z")
> **[Poker site accused of $440 million Ponzi scheme](https://money.cnn.com/2011/09/20/news/companies/poker_ponzi/index.htm?hpt=hp_c1)** > > The U.S. attorney in Manhattan on Tuesday accused the operators of the online poker site Full Tilt of operating like a Ponzi scheme, siphoning more than $400 million to board members and owners, even though it rightfully belonged to gamblers. Full Tilt Poker has scammed its players to the tune of $440,000,000. Oops! So perhaps the DOJ is/was correct in its aggressive stance towards these sites. ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2011, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-still-any-online-sites/595753/6 "2011-09-21T04:39:58Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > [http://money.cnn.com/2011/09/20/news/companies/poker\_ponzi/index.htm?hpt=hp\_c1](http://money.cnn.com/2011/09/20/news/companies/poker_ponzi/index.htm?hpt=hp_c1) > > Full Tilt Poker has scammed its players to the tune of $440,000,000. Oops! > > So perhaps the DOJ is/was correct in its aggressive stance towards **this site**. Fixed your post. I’m not aware of any other poker site that has screwed up this massively. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2011, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-still-any-online-sites/595753/7 "2011-09-21T05:21:36Z")
From the article: > [@](#): > > The sites for Full Tilt Poker and PokerStars have been shut down, and are now embossed with the seal of the U.S. Department of Justice. They exist only as a means to pay back gamblers, according to settlements signed with the U.S. district attorney in April. Perhaps the article is badly worded, but the above does suggest that three sites (Full Tilt, Absolute Poker, and Poker Stars) are implicated in this, with Full Tilt being the one currently charged with the Ponzi accusations. Further research shows that the three sites have been shut down (for Americans) since April, but as of now, only the FT site is charged with the scheme. So you may correct my post, but time will tell if the correction stands. As of now, PS does seem to be paying back its American gamblers, while the Full Tilt site couldn’t, which warranted the investigation. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2011, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-still-any-online-sites/595753/8 "2011-09-21T05:58:30Z")
> [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](#): > > Fixed your post. I’m not aware of any other poker site that has screwed up this massively. Please do not alter the text inside quote marks. Not as a joke, and not even if you note that you’ve altered it. No warning issued. Lynn For the SDMB ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2011, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-still-any-online-sites/595753/9 "2011-09-21T14:53:22Z")
> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#): > > Please do not alter the text inside quote marks. Not as a joke, and not even if you note that you’ve altered it. > > No warning issued. > > Lynn > For the SDMB Apologies. I know I’ve seen this accepted, but it must be elsewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2011, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-still-any-online-sites/595753/10 "2011-09-22T00:38:04Z")
[This previous thread on a related subject](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13692279#post13692279) says [clubwpt.com](http://clubwpt.com). ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2011, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-still-any-online-sites/595753/11 "2011-09-22T03:59:20Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > [This previous thread on a related subject](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13692279#post13692279) says [clubwpt.com](http://clubwpt.com). Isn’t that a pay-by-the-month deal?