# Are these actual, mature frogs?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-these-actual-mature-frogs/661619>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [June 22, 2013, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-these-actual-mature-frogs/661619 "2013-06-22T07:59:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![thicksantorum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@thicksantorum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thicksantorum)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2013, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-these-actual-mature-frogs/661619/21 "2013-06-23T21:52:28Z")

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> [@turtlescanfly](#):
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> I like some elements of the Intelligent Design theory (primarily that there may in fact be a higher power that guides the universe according to rules established by said power), but it seems more often than not that people associated with that viewpoint are anti-science, religious zealots. I don’t identify with that side of it.

You seem to be entertaining/supporting Deism, which is not the same thing as Intelligent Design, and isn’t really compatible with it.

Intelligent Design is literally just a rebrand of creationism (look up “wedge strategy”) and is anti-science by definition. There is no pro-science side to it.

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**Author:** ![nion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c5a1d2/32.png) [@nion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nion)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2013, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-these-actual-mature-frogs/661619/22 "2013-06-24T04:26:11Z")

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> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#):
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> So it appears it’s called a [desert rain frog](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_rain_frog), does actually look like that, and actually makes those sounds. How can any of those ‘intelligent design’-folks look at things like that and not go, ‘yeah, no, that doesn’t make any fucking sense whatsoever’. (“On the underside it has a transparent area of skin through which its internal organs can be seen.”; I mean, why?)
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> Anyway, you can ignore this thread, I guess.

These are incredibly cute! They also have the cutest threat response ever. Thanks for sharing. 🙂

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